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Ron Paul Touted His Controversial Newsletters In 1995 C-SPAN Interview

First Posted: 12/22/2011 2:52 pm Updated: 12/22/2011 2:52 pm

Yesterday, presidential hopeful Ron Paul had an exchange with CNN's Gloria Borger (I believe the go-to descriptor we're using these days is "testy") in which the Texas Congressman, weary of answering questions about the newsletters filled with racist/homophobic/xenophobic goulash that were published in his name many years ago (content Paul has, at various times, denied being the author of and, at other times, denied having knowledge of) removed his microphone and withdrew from the interview. At the time of his walk-off, Paul had one thin sliver of a point to make -- Borger was essentially re-asking questions that had been asked by her CNN colleagues days earlier. So if we want to call it a protest against CNN having nothing new to ask about the matter and asking it anyway, that's fine, let's call it that.

But, hey, in the interest of having something new to say on the subject, here's Ed Morrissey with the latest video scoop from C-SPAN archive-diver extraordinaire Andrew Kaczynski -- a circa 1995 interview with a then-out-of-office Paul, in which he discusses how he's staying involved in the political world. (The salient part begins about a minute into the video.)

Paul said in the interview:

But along with that, I also put out a political type of business investment newsletter that sort of covered all these areas. And it covered a lot about what was going on in Washington, and financial events, and especially some of the monetary events. Since I had been especially interested in monetary policy, had been on the banking committee, and still very interested in, in that subject, that this newsletter dealt with it. This had to do with the value of the dollar, the pros and cons of the gold standard, and of course the disadvantages of all the high taxes and spending that our government seems to continue to do.

Morrissey says: "For a man who now says that he didn’t pay any attention to the newsletters published under his own name for years, he certainly seems to be pretty conversant with its contents in 1995." And the time period is an interesting one, if we recall what Dave Weigel and Julian Sanchez found out about the newsletters once they started investigating the matter:

The tenor of Paul's newsletters changed over the years. The ones published between Paul's return to private life after three full terms in congress (1985) and his Libertarian presidential bid (1988) notably lack inflammatory racial or anti-gay comments. The letters published between Paul's first run for president and his return to Congress in 1996 are another story—replete with claims that Martin Luther King "seduced underage girls and boys," that black protesters should gather "at a food stamp bureau or a crack house" rather than the Statue of Liberty, and that AIDS sufferers "enjoy the attention and pity that comes with being sick."

Eric Dondero, Paul's estranged former volunteer and personal aide, worked for Paul on and off between 1987 and 2004 (back when he was named "Eric Rittberg"), and since the Iraq war has become one of the congressman's most vociferous and notorious critics. By Dondero's account, Paul's inner circle learned between his congressional stints that "the wilder they got, the more bombastic they got with it, the more the checks came in. You think the newsletters were bad? The fundraising letters were just insane from that period."

So, at the time of the interview, the content of the newsletters was of the more infamous variety, rather than the tamer stuff of the mid to late 1980s. At the same time, the content that Paul seems most "conversant" about in the interview is the tamer stuff in which he's consistently and conspicuously taken an interest -- monetary policy, central banking, and the gold standard.

Not that you'd go on C-SPAN and say, "Hey, check out these racist newsletters I've been putting out," mind you!

Whether or not Paul means to tout these newsletters, and get more subscribers, is debatable. That he was aware of their existence at the time of their most vicious content is not. And yet the same air of mystery -- which is perhaps constructed, by design! -- over what Paul knew and when he knew it remains unpenetrated. If you are inclined to defend Ron Paul, you can say that he still seems to lack awareness of the newsletters' content. If you are inclined to disparage Paul, you point out that here he is, essentially copping to running a lucrative post-political career newsletter operation that traded in divisive venom.

The larger question that remains was best put into words by Steve Kornacki this morning:

That's the galling thing -- if Paul is the victim here, why isn't fingering the culpable party something that consumes him? I think we can reasonably speculate that most people, if faced with a similar controversy, would move heaven and earth to clear their good names. Paul has, in the recent past, said that he takes "moral responsibility" for these writings, but this seems to be the bare minimum of effort that one puts forth when one just wants to close the chapter. It's old news...I want to put it behind me...it's time to move on...these are the sorts of things that professional athletes say at the press conference they stage after they've been caught knocking their wives around.

Whether or not Paul is ultimately responsible for these writings, it remains a yawning vacuum into which responsibility must be poured. At the moment, Ron Paul is the only person who can fulfill this responsibility, and simply repudiating the contents of the newsletters and asking everyone to move on is clearly not cutting it.

A suggestion, then: let's allow that these newsletters are a product of journalism -- bad, irresponsible journalism -- that their publisher must now responsibly retract. To my mind, the best way to go about this is a three-step process. First, you explain, in chapter and verse detail, what the controversy involves -- you literally narrate what happened. Second, you explain, as best as you are able, how it came to pass that this bilge ended up in newsletters bearing your name. Third, you detail as fully as you can your step-by-step strategy for ensuring that it never happens again.

And perhaps the fourth part of the process is that you accept that even after a full explanation, you maybe don't restore your tarnished credibility. Nevertheless, Paul has treated this matter as an object that appears in his rearview mirror, rather than stopping to face it head-on. He ought to give it a try.

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06:34 PM on 03/08/2012
I just find it interesting that NO ONE in the mainstream press reporting this old story has published any of the full newsletter. Put your money where your mouth is and publish ALL OF THE NEWSLETTERS IN THEIR FULL CONTEXT. What's the matter? Afraid too many people will find too much sense in Ron Paul's ACTUAL words? So you can publish ghost written articles and attribute them to Paul. So what?
02:35 PM on 12/27/2011
If I were Ron Paul I would sue for this hack article.
He doesn't tout his newsletters at all!
He has never avowed or supported any racist views and if you can find anything video or anything in his voting record that has done so, that is what you should be reporting.
06:06 PM on 01/05/2012
There are scores of items that reveal Paul's racism and bigotry. No, he doesn't says racist things, in fact he pretends to hate racism, but he votes the full agenda of the John Birch society and neo nazi groups. He allows them to raise money for him, does not disavow them, and does not return the donations. The Neo Nazis support him because they understand what he stands for. How can others be so naive to not see it? David Duke, Jamie Kelso, and Don Black...are all nazis who support and have donated to Ron Paul. Case closed
11:11 AM on 01/06/2012
You are a victim of propaganda my friend. The powers that be do not want Ron Paul as president because he'll cut too many freeloaders off the government teat.
I mean specifically the Military Industrial complex.
I didn't vote for Obama or McCain because they are both working for the special interests.
If you want things to get even worse keep supporting Obama or one of the other
puppets.
01:49 AM on 12/26/2011
I have decided. I don't care what you all do.

I give up on you.

I am supporting, and voting Ron Paul in 2012.

All the while, I will be storing food and supplies, like them "crazies" on TV waiting for the Apocalypse.

Not that I think an Apocalypse is coming, but that I am not going to be starving with you brainwashed foolios, when your choice for "dead USA #1" sinks this SHIP!!

Good luck with your local grocery store.... idiots.

RON PAUL, ethical, electable, obvious racist (NOT), LIBERTY 2012!!!
02:24 PM on 12/26/2011
I love many of the things Ron Paul stands for. Yes to marijuana legalization, no to the war in Iraq (one of the seven Republican congressmen who voted against giving Bush the authorization to invade despite the popular headwinds that wanted invasion), yes to repeal of DADT.

Ron Paul has a support base of people who are genuinely fiscally conservative and socially/lifestyle liberal. I like that a lot.

But I'm so dismayed by how he's handled this situation. He should really have taken this as an opportunity to get on a soapbox and condemn bigotry. He should condemn the bigotry that appeared in his newsletters, and condemn it as it exists in society today. He shouldn't keep that whole "this is old news" complaint. If Reverend Wright wasn't old news, this sure ain't.

And the worst thing is that Dr. Paul's arrogant attitude about the matter is forstering attitude's like Torqued's. People who are now wearing their Ron Paul 2012 badges as this symbol of protest against scrutinizing presidential candidates.

With an open issue like this hanging over Dr. Paul's head--articles in his newsletter with no attributed authorship and no effort on his part to even TRY to explain how they got there--I would never be able to vote for him. And I'd say the same for any candidate.
09:12 AM on 12/27/2011
Have you ever seen the Twilight Zone episode where neighbors think there has been an invasion from outer space and they beg a neighbor who has prepared a space ship with supplies for his family to let them in? When he refuses, they break in and attack him, but then it turns out to be a false alarm and heh, heh, we're sorry.
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EdCorner
Now what - more of the same...
08:12 PM on 12/24/2011
I don't care whether you believe him or not - there is no one that defends the rights and integrity of minorities today like Ron Paul. Not a black President and not the Congress.
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PeachHipGirl
11:28 AM on 12/25/2011
I was going to laugh along with you. Then I realized - you are serious. Scary
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EdCorner
Now what - more of the same...
02:35 PM on 12/25/2011
It is - when all they have to offer is only one anti-war candidate. What are we becoming?
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Kate McCloud
There will be disappointment, but never shame
02:24 PM on 12/27/2011
Yes, it's scary, but you gotta laugh at the loonies. They are always revealed as such. Sometimes after the damage is done, but eventually, always. And that's when I laugh & laugh. F & F
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SkeeBee
Offending InFoxtrination Sufferers With Facts.
10:46 AM on 12/24/2011
Huh.
So is it possible that Rand DID have other motivations behind his:
"The Free Market has a right to practice segregation and to reduce service to blacks."
from somewhere OTHER than 'pure, libertarian', ideals.

Another right wing, racist dooooosh.
News flash.
not
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kings2beat
02:44 AM on 12/24/2011
Ron Paul has a few good ideas. He has many more terrible ideas. It's those bad ideas that make him amazingly dangerous. His main problem is that he seems to worship the constitution. That document has never been and will never be perfect. It's disturbing, yet understandable why some individuals belonging to my young generation are supporting him. We are searching for a voice that lies outside of hollow politics. We understand the need for true change. Ron Paul is not the bearer of that change, in my opinion. He does not speak with the voice of transformation that we need. He is different when compared to his fellow GOPers. Different isn't enough. He still bears an R next to his name. Transformation will not happen until we realize that this two party dictatorship must end.
12:23 PM on 12/24/2011
GET over the R and D! There are good people in both parties as well as MANY bad. As far as the Constitution, FOOL, you will Love and use it when you NEED it, and CRY like a baby when you realize you don't have it. Please go read history and do your homework.
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02:57 PM on 12/24/2011
Name calling? I guess that's the fruit of doing your homework in this country nowadays. So be it. You should get your homework reviewed by an educated individual before deeming it complete. You can't dispute the fact that the constitution is and always has been imperfect. Any document who's foundation called for the freedom of a few and the enslavement of certain others is flawed. That's why folks who worship this document as some finished work of infallible art are dangerous and disturbing on so many levels. The opposite of progress is death. We can't stop seeking perfection. Knowing what we know about the authors of the Constitution, it's safe to say that they'd be all for progress as most of them were forward thinkers. And your ignorant suggestion that I would use it when I need it is terribly misguided. I was born with certain rights, amongst them the right to freedom. The Constitution does not grant me any right, it does seek to reaffirm some of those rights. But, it is and always will remain true that my right to freedom exists outside of the confines of the Constitution.
02:44 PM on 12/27/2011
Yet, you do not mention who you do support or which view of Ron Paul you find terrible.
He is the only one that is talking about taking power away from the government and giving it back to the people. That is his general position. you find that a terrible idea?
In the last election I voted for Ralph Nader simply because both Obama and McCain are totally owned puppets, the same as all of the republican candidates other than Ron Paul.
I agree both parties are totally owned, and the only chance we have is Ron Paul.
Even then it will be an uphill battle for him as the congress it totally bought and paid for.
jeremyv1980
Tough times don't last. Tough people do!
11:58 PM on 12/23/2011
"Here is what happens when you just cherry-pick statements from a guy who had a 40-year career as a pastor. There are times when people say things that are just wrong. But I think it's important to judge me on what I've said in the past and what I believe," he also said.~Barack Obama on remarks by Rev. Jeremiah Wright his long time pastor.
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kings2beat
02:09 AM on 12/24/2011
Come again when you can end your quote with Obama on remarks by Obama. Then you'd be relevant here.
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Martha Stuart
06:15 PM on 12/23/2011
Ron Paul is not and has never been a racist. This subject has been beaten to death and the mainstream media keeps bringing it up to divert attention from Dr. Paul's plans. Can we please move on to a cogent discussion of the issues facing our country?
07:56 PM on 12/23/2011
Martha Stuart –

Are you,

a) ok with Cocoa Puffs?

b) happy for Cocoa Puffs?

c) kookoo for Cocoa Puffs?
12:38 PM on 12/24/2011
Are you okay with:

A) Wall Street Derivitives fraud?
B) BoA home foreclosure fraud?
C) Eric Holder and the ATF shipping Guns?
D) Our Troops guarding Opium fields?
E) Banks laundering Drug money?
F) Federal Reserve isn't Federal and has No reserve?
G) NDAA Bill, Your Elected are OKAY with indefinite detainment and torture for American citizens WITH OUT trial. Key word-WITHOUT TRIAL?
H) Putting your head in sand or place body on busy railroad track?
Note: If you are okay with (H) Pick the one that your TV says and find more sand to either stick head in or cover DC dirt.
04:42 PM on 12/23/2011
Concrete proof that the mainstream media and the GOP establishment have been right all along about Ron Paul bing a racist! http://youtu.be/i3EADdr-5AY
08:11 PM on 12/23/2011
“http://www .youtube.c om/watch?v =i3EADdr-5 AY will u listen says willuliste n Hello"
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Different name.
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01:04 AM on 12/24/2011
Nice find, echoes my comment from yesterday.
03:14 PM on 12/23/2011
Morning Joe on msnbc said that Ron Paul will win Iowa.
04:03 PM on 12/23/2011
And that means?
04:27 PM on 12/23/2011
Just find it comical that after he said that the pundits said well what about the smear camaign going on. He said that it wouldnt work. then the attack was on the front page of hp. and it still is not working
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03:07 PM on 12/23/2011
Alex Fidelibus wrote: 'I think the consistent ignorance, intoleranc­e and oversimpli­fied answers to the worlds problem from Ron Paul's supporters are a reflection on him and his political dogma.'

I don't.

I also don't think that less-than-insightful comments from Mr Obama's supporters reflect on Mr Obama or his political dogma. I believe that what Mr Obama, Dr Paul, or anyone else says or does should be assessed solely on the basis of what the person in question has said or done---not on what others say or do.
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Oceras
Tax High Incomes!
02:59 PM on 12/23/2011
"Paul has, in the recent past, said that he takes "moral responsibility" for these writings"

Of course he does. They are part of his personal moral code. He wants us to believe that in all the racist years of the publication he never once read the newsletter. This strains credulity to the breaking point. We now know that Paul wants only to be president of some of the people, just as Republican politicians today only wish to make laws that benefit a very few of the people.
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Martha Stuart
06:21 PM on 12/23/2011
he said he didn't write them or read them, but takes moral responsibility because they appeared in his newsletters.
08:09 PM on 12/23/2011
“Order was only restored in LA when it came time for the blacks to collect their welfare checks. The ‘poor’ lined up at the Post Office to get their handouts (since there were no deliveries) — and then complained about slow service.”

– RP Newsletter
02:51 PM on 12/23/2011
In what context do the words, "Ninety-five percent of blacks are criminals" not convey BLATANTLY racist sentiments?

And why is it always white folks who think discrimination and racism are non-issues?
02:53 PM on 12/27/2011
Your first quote is a racist comment no doubt.
Ron Paul did not say it or print it.
Your comment is racist as well.
Always white folks think discrimination and racism are non-issues­?
Always?
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Kasado
en jolt of terminus
02:25 PM on 12/23/2011
That's it. I give up.
There is no talking sense to people how believe that Ron Paul is threatening their vested interest, in favor of legislature that would benefit all American citizens.
America deserves the next corporate owned president and all the negative results that will occur.
In a few years I will retire and move to Belize where I can safely watch America self-destruct.
The America I remember is long ago died and I would not pi$$ on it if it was on fire.
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Richard Bartholomew
My micro-bio isn't empty.
03:13 PM on 12/23/2011
Belize looks like a reasonably good choice. You might want to open a bank account down there and convert some of your assets into Belize dollars. Have you ever visited the country or tried to get a residence visa? I'd do some of that stuff ahead of time in case you have to leave the U.S. in a hurry---if you catch my meaning.
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Kasado
en jolt of terminus
04:59 PM on 12/23/2011
I know a guy that can make a citizen of Belize for $6000 (probably illegally) and I have been there.
05:09 PM on 12/23/2011
Safely? I assume that you mean with an electric fence surrounding your home and with a fully automatic rifle on your lap.
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Kasado
en jolt of terminus
05:19 PM on 12/23/2011
And just what would I be protecting and apparently you have never been there. It is paradise compared to America.
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rmrgdr
Why you are VERY welcome!
01:12 PM on 12/23/2011
Ron Paul huh, let's see.
Career rural Texas Republican.
farther right than Bachmann, Palin or, well anybody.
Opposes Roe v Wade, Civil rights legislation, creationist, isolationist.
Wait! That's enough, NO FRIGGIN WAY!
03:04 PM on 12/27/2011
Ron Paul isn't owned. Who are you putting up?
He's not isolationist but a non- interventionist.
The US is bankrupt with 1 out of every 6 Americans on food stamps, do you want to keep borrowing money so that we can keep giving Billions or trillions in foreign aid?