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S&P/Case-Shiller October 2011: Home Prices Down In 20 Major Cities

Spcase Shiller October 2011

DEREK KRAVITZ   12/27/11 02:14 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — U.S. home prices fell in most major cities for the second straight month, further evidence that the housing recovery will be bumpy and weigh on the broader economy in 2012.

The Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller index released Tuesday showed prices dropped in October from September in 19 of the 20 cities tracked.

The decline reflects the typical fall slowdown after the peak buying season. Prices had risen modestly in April through August in at least half of the cities tracked.

Still, home prices have fallen roughly 32 percent nationwide since the housing bubble burst five years ago and are back to 2003 levels, according to the index.

Prices are even lower in hard-hit areas, such as Atlanta, Cleveland, Detroit, Phoenix and Las Vegas. Washington, New York, Los Angeles and San Diego have seen the smallest declines.

Home values remain depressed despite some modest progress in the housing market.

Residential construction is likely to add to U.S. economic growth in 2011, the first time that has happened in four years. That's mainly because apartments are being built almost twice as fast as two years ago – reflecting a surge in renting and weaker home sales.

The Case-Shiller index measures prices for roughly half of all U.S. homes. Prices are compared with those in January 2000 and the index is based on a three-month moving average. The monthly data are not seasonally adjusted.

Atlanta, Detroit and Minneapolis posted the biggest monthly declines. Prices in Atlanta and Las Vegas fell to their lowest points since the housing crisis began. Prices rose in Phoenix after three straight monthly declines.

David M. Blitzer, chairman of S&P's index committee, said steep price drops in cities such as Atlanta, Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit and Minneapolis were particularly worrisome because their gains earlier this season were so strong.

"Atlanta and the Midwest are regions that really stand out in terms of recent relative weakness," Blitzer said. "These markets were some of the strongest during the spring/summer buying season."

Americans are reluctant to purchase a home more than two years after the recession officially ended. High unemployment and weak job growth have deterred many would-be buyers. Even the lowest mortgage rates in history haven't been enough to lift sales.

Some people can't qualify for loans or meet higher down payment requirements. Many with good credit and stable jobs are holding off because they fear that prices will keep falling.

Sales of previously occupied homes are barely ahead of 2008's dismal figures – the worst in 13 years. And sales of new homes this year will likely be the worst since the government began keeping records a half century ago.

Prices are likely to fall further once banks resume millions of foreclosures. They have been delayed because of a yearlong government investigation into mortgage lending practices.

Foreclosures and short sales – when a lender accepts less for a home than what is owed on a mortgage – are selling at an average discount of 20 percent.

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WASHINGTON — U.S. home prices fell in most major cities for the second straight month, further evidence that the housing recovery will be bumpy and weigh on the broader economy in 2012. The Sta...
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12:11 PM on 12/28/2011
Because the Case-Shiller Index is developed from recent sales of usually very expensive homes from large cities, it is not reflective of the general real estate market. All real estate sales activity is local and the data extracted from one market should not and cannot be applied to another market.
07:42 AM on 12/28/2011
RBC: HOUSE PRICES TO DROP UP TO 30% IN 2012

“Tom Porcelli, chief US economist at RBC Capital Markets, says he is not buying the recent positive data on US housing. He sees US home prices dropping another 10% – 30% in 2012.”

http://pragcap.com/rbc-house-prices-to-drop-up-to-30-in-2012
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GoogleAlphaPublishing
nothing, nobody, not a representative
07:24 AM on 12/28/2011
I'm not sure I'm willing to read much more into the current depletion than I was into the bubble.

To me the point was to put lots of people in homes who have no real vested interest in this country. That's the impermanent part of the market that just now appears to hold sway. Lots of people in this country right now are going to be forced to either step up or step down in the next few years. Lots of people creating the impression of making it work who aren't even trying to make anything work make up a sizable percentage of current home ownership.
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JFaye
My micro-bio is not empty. Thank you.
09:38 PM on 12/27/2011
Several years ago, housing prices skyrocketed and mortgages came easy. Money has tightened up as banks are now making sure people are qualified for loans to minimize risk to loan-holders. Was it inevitable that soaring housing prices would eventually begin to fall or "correct" what was overly priced market?
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munki
Global to Local now Local to Global
08:50 PM on 12/27/2011
Catch 22.

No money circulating like in pre-2008... is no egg or chicken?

The mess we are in is a result of... "what a MESS".
08:21 PM on 12/27/2011
Ok, so most sales now are short sales or foreclosures. Those homeowners are disallowed another mortgage for 2 to 7 years. No wonder buyers are scarce. Fully half the potential buyers are locked out of the market by FHA.
08:19 PM on 12/27/2011
If 70 percent owned homes, do you really think the remaining 30 percent are able to buy themnout at a profit? They can't or were smart enough to not buy in the first place.
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rotorhead1871
who are you jivin' with that cosmic debris?...
07:07 PM on 12/27/2011
too many houses.....tooooooo few buyers.........you can figure out the rest.....
05:34 PM on 12/27/2011
The Problem: Grossly Inflated Housing Prices

The Solution: Dramatical­ly Lower Housing Prices

The Solution is coming to every single city, town and state in America.
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UDKM2010
Life is better in Boardshorts.
03:19 PM on 12/27/2011
I say housing is headed up within the next 24 months. People have sold our economy too short. Rents are rising, unemployment is improving and rates are low so it is only a matter of time until housing recovers. Get in now or pay 65% more later.
05:25 PM on 12/27/2011
WRONG

Housing prices are falling.

Rents are falling.

Why buy now when you can buy later for 65% less?
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rotorhead1871
who are you jivin' with that cosmic debris?...
07:09 PM on 12/27/2011
I love optimistic folks.......but without jobs....the housing market is in the tank.....12' and 13' for sure......
02:13 PM on 12/27/2011
I don't know who Collapsing House Price is...but I think his suggestion to "Walk Away" on a upside-down home is likely good advice for many...circumstances/details/state laws are, of course, important to understand when doing this...

As Lord Humongous said "Just walk Away"...it all worked out in the end, after some drama, as I recall.
02:40 PM on 12/27/2011
I love the Lord Humongous comment!
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
02:44 PM on 12/27/2011
Says the tro11.

Another one of RAL's aka Collapse Home Prices Pup pet voices.
03:07 PM on 12/27/2011
lmao.... imagine that. The clown with many usernames accusing everyone else of........ multiple usernames.

It doesn't get any better than that Frankie The ReaItor.

Hey Frankie..... why are you reaItors telling the public to buy housing when prices are falling?

You continue to duck, weave and run from this question. Why is that?
03:07 PM on 12/27/2011
Frank, here you are trying to sucker a whole bunch of folks you don't know into buying a home they will surely regret and loose money on...and I cannot see the upside for you on any personal level.

Your loyalty to the realestate industry is impressive but where is your loyalty to Huffpo readers?
01:40 PM on 12/27/2011
People with good credit and long job histories can't get loans for a variety of reasons, i.e. they don't have a 20% down payment and can't afford PMI, and the other not spoken about but there reasons: a working woman who is of child bearing age, the age of the borrower, and a few others. Additionally, many of the house on the market or coming on the market are being bought by investors to use as rental properties. There is a high demand for mid range to upscale rentals, and you can actually make more money that way.
01:46 PM on 12/27/2011
You sound like a housing crime syndicate operator and you're distorting the truth about the market.

The truth is that housing sales are at 15 year LOWS because prices are grossly inflated. GONE are the days of lenders financing depreciating houses at grossly inflated prices.

Get used to it because prices will continue falling for a very long time.
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frank day
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02:45 PM on 12/27/2011
You're correct friend. High demand for rental prices will eventually push up All prices.
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Ariel Bonzai
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03:00 PM on 12/27/2011
Yeah, but won't more people be forced into slums or become homeless?
03:08 PM on 12/27/2011
"High demand for rental prices"....

Do you care to explain this beaut Frankie The ReaItor?
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Norma Ward
01:30 PM on 12/27/2011
Here is an article that discusses who the Federal Reserve blames for the massive decline in the value of American residential real estate:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2011/12/americas-housing-boom-and-bust-who-is.html

Hint: it's not the Fed's policy of ultra-low interest rates that is to blame. In 2006, nearly 35 percent of all first mortgages issued in the United States were issued to multiple residence owners. For the states of Arizona, California, Florida and Nevada, nearly 45 percent of all mortgages were issued to multiple mortgage holders.
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PJ Parker
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01:19 PM on 12/27/2011
My house here in Florida has lost 33% of it's value, but my property insurance has gone up almost 25% and my taxes have increased 20%. So, I have a fixed rate mortgage, but my mortgage payment increases $100 or more ever year. This really sux.
Spanky231
I don't see left or right. I only see Americans.
12:52 PM on 12/27/2011
I predict that the housing market will be in a state of correction for at least another 2 years. Why? Easy. Its basic supply and demand. The credit market is so tight right now that even people with long job histories and good credit are finding it hard to get loans. Couple that with higher than average unemployment and you will have more supply than demand.

Unemployment is key here. Once that starts to improve, you will see housing improve.
12:56 PM on 12/27/2011
An "improvement in housing" is dramatically lower prices by definition. Housing will do a whole lot of improving over the coming years.
01:05 PM on 12/27/2011
Housing is still extremely over valued. Wake me up when we get to 2.5x income at MOST which was the traditional metric for 75 years in a BOOMING and growing USA.

The future USA will not be booming and cost of living vs. wages is MUCH higher now meaning the "bottom" will be at around 1.5x to 2x incomes at best.

I see no appreciation for at least 10 years and plenty of downside.
01:50 PM on 12/27/2011
Thanks Mayor...this is the key objective criteria ignored by so many for so long.

2012-2013 will be the years of the SHADOW INVENTORY hitting the market and bringing sanity back to realestate prices...

Wow, we can start looking forward, finally, to being able to not only comfortably purchasing a home but then actually having enough income to keep up the property and maybe save for the future...can't wait!
08:03 PM on 12/27/2011
You do realize that you only looked at half the equation. When you tie housing prices to income by a multiplier, the multiplier can vary due to either changes in prices or changes in income. The fact is that housing prices are overvalued relative to incomes as much because incomes have eroded as to inflation of prices. Correcting incomes, i.e. better paying jobs with benefits would go a long way toward bringing things back in balance. Why are you and many others so willing to accept declining wages and lousy jobs. Until you adopt the idea that incomes must go up rather than housing prices come down we continue to suffer.