Transgender Woman Beats New York Subway Rider For Calling Her A Man (GRAPHIC VIDEO)

UPDATE Thursday, December 29 8:49am: The video of this incident has been removed from YouTube and no further clips are available.

A violent video, said to be of a transgender woman kicking and beating a man in a New York subway station after he made a disparaging remark about her identity, is making the LGBT blogosphere rounds.

The creator of the clip -- titled "TOSSED LIKE A RAG DOLL FOR TRYING IT!!!" -- writes:

"Morning after xmas on the nyc subway train, me and my girlfriends was walking to the train, dude shouted out 'thats a man' to my home girl and this is what happens when u disrespect a [transgender person] in public."

Watch the clip below (WARNING: contains graphic language and imagery):

Comments

[GO-BAMA]

10:59 PM on 02/13/2012

This guy is revolting and completely lacking in class for making that comment, and, I'm sorry but she is just as revolting and classless for resorting to violence.

[warbladex1]

09:13 PM on 02/09/2012

they removed the vid. must have hurt more than his feelings, lol... hater

[ZC1968]

02:46 PM on 02/04/2012

LOL, he beat him like man, just proves he is a Man!!! LOL

[Darlie Brewster]

04:29 PM on 02/08/2012

Or that the man they beat up wasn't. Something to consider.

[houseofvespucci]

12:47 AM on 02/01/2012

a few months ago a fast food restaurant a male attendant got away with beating a transwoman with a metal object even though she provoked the situation. hmmm....if this lady was harassed in the subway it was self defense...

[campcranston]

06:35 PM on 01/31/2012

This person should not stand as a representative of transgendered people. Violence solves nothing for anybody, and it sounds like she never quite hit adult maturity levels. Anyone who solves their problems with violence is small, gay, straight, trans, bi, black or blue. This isn't a trans issue, it's a culture of violence issue.

[John Hazelton Smith]

05:20 PM on 01/27/2012

It's amazing how the LGBT community says that we are the intolerant ones...

[campcranston]

06:36 PM on 01/31/2012

While I absolutely do not condone her actions, it was provoked by an intolerant person. So. Yeah.

[Niya Watson]

03:08 PM on 01/11/2012

You do know that you can be XY and develop as female right ? Androgen insensitivity syndrome. If you want to cling to the idea the XY makes you male despite medical science saying other wise that's on you . But don't force that believe on me .

[Valerie Keefe]

05:58 AM on 01/12/2012

Quite right. Though ultimately I think in a sapient species, neurological sex is the only legitimate sex, not assigned sex or genital morphology.

[aflutterbug]

11:08 AM on 01/12/2012

Can "neurologic­al sex" be tested for? Should that determine who can be medically treated and who can't?

[independentvoter007]

03:07 PM on 02/03/2012

you realize androgen insensitivity syndrome is a disease

[GeneralBulldog]

08:06 PM on 02/12/2012

Genetic abnormality, not a disease. Also it come in various stages some cases mild and others complete. Many of the women with CAIS look like and develop like regular women the only difference is one is born without a womb while most do.

[Bobbi2664]

01:27 AM on 01/05/2012

Just goes to show that putting mouth in gear before brain can be painful.

[MrGovtCheese]

07:36 PM on 01/03/2012

It was a lose lose situation for that guy after that remark.

[Pointless Agony]

07:36 PM on 01/03/2012

Well, technically she is a man since she's able to beat him like that.

[Valerie Keefe]

03:24 AM on 01/04/2012

Sorry, no. Proficiency in fisticuffs, while correlated with gender, is not a determinant.

[LisaLore]

04:23 AM on 01/04/2012

Hmm, so every woman who is able to beat a man is actually a man. Strange definition of manhood.

[Valerie Keefe]

05:37 PM on 01/03/2012

Since they haven't been answered earlier in the forum, I'd like to ask those who believe they reject the concept of transsexuality in good faith the following questions:

Why do you fail to acknowledg­e those who are classicall­y understood to be intersex?

Would you advocate for them to be surgically assigned a sex at birth?

Would you allow them to identify their own sex?

If not, what metric would you use for assigning sex? Would it be assigned with or without medical interventi­on?

If so, what separates the legitimacy of developmen­t that can be confirmed with the naked eye in that particular nerve cluster with the legitimacy of developmen­t of the midbrain that can be confirmed via self-repor­t when it comes to determinin­g the right of a person to identify their own sex and have that identity affirmed?

[independentvoter007]

03:10 PM on 02/03/2012

XX is female, XY is male. Its so easy. And don't tell me that some people are XXY, etc. Those are diagnosable DISEASES

[Valerie Keefe]

05:52 PM on 02/03/2012

Actually, most people with XXY (Kleinfelter's) live normative lives, and their atypical karyotype never manifests in any way.

XX and XY are blueprints, but it's prenatal endocrinology that does most of the building, which is why you get women with complete andgrogen insensitivity syndrome, who have undescended testes and XY chromosomes, like Julia Child.

[Kittyburger]

02:01 PM on 01/03/2012

"Despite the fact that Hausman is aware of people throughout history who lived as members of the other sex, or who do so today without using hormones or surgery, she nevertheless chooses to narrowly define transsexuality as the act of changing one's sex via physically transitioning. This allows her to put forward the thesis that "developments in medical technology and practice were central to the establishment of the necessary conditions for the emergence of the demand for sex change." The amateurish nature of this argument is astounding; it's akin to discounting the existence of all nonmotorized vehicles to make the claim that transportation is a modern construction dependent on the discovery of fossil fuel and combustion engines." - Julia Serano, "Whipping Girl," Chapter 7

I disagree with Julia here on only part of one point: The "without hormones" point - there is ample historical evidence that gender-variant women at earlier points in history used methods that went up to and included drinking the urine of pregnant mares (GROSS!) to gain the benefits of naturally-occurring estrogens.

My observation of world cultures, and the lack of judgmentalism in most toward transgender and gender-variant individuals until the introduction of western Christian beliefs led to the adoption of cultural insensitivity and rigidity leads me to believe that the pseudo-instinctive* revulsion that many people feel toward transsexual women is an artifact of Christian-dominated European culture.

(defining "pseudo-instinct" as a culturally-ingrained response that people act upon as if instinct).

[Valerie Keefe]

05:31 PM on 01/03/2012

Yeah, this. We had HRT in 500 BC, (Aloe, hops, PMU, saw palmetto, lavender, etc) , as well as surgical options.

Now we have much better transition technology, which has made it somewhat easier for trans people to transition and gain acceptance as their gender from cis people.

It's sad but true: Proper HRT will do more to alleviate cissexism than any non-discrimination act.

[Delphi Omally]

02:07 AM on 01/03/2012

"That's a Man!" Wow....such words uttered out loud in the presence of a transgender female are not mere words any more than screaming "Fire" in a crowded (as opposed to empty) theatre. Why so? Because these three words are words "likely to provoke an immediate and hostile reaction" which is essentially the same as challenging a person to a fight. By uttering these words, the person doing so has verbally "attacked"/challenged the transgender female and has immediately placed her in severe danger. I don't advocate violence but I do advocate self-defense. The transgender female didn't simply decide to dish out a can of "whoop-butt". No sir. No ma'am. She was simply defending her life...from immediate danger.

[independentvoter007]

03:11 PM on 02/03/2012

Yes, violence is the answer. But only when the person using violence agrees with your poltical ideology.

[GO-BAMA]

10:56 PM on 02/13/2012

While I find his remark disgusting and completely lacking class, I disagree with your rather poor analogy.

[Delphi Omally]

02:39 AM on 02/14/2012

I am sorry that my analogy is so destitute and void of parallel comparison such that it defies the ability for others to comprehend that yelling "fire" in a crowded theater and "outing" a T-gender person loudly and publicly BOTH can result in loss of life.

Certainly no analogy there for certainly there must be life and T-gender life...of course the two should never be accorded the same human dignity. Certainly the annual TGDOR is pure fiction...why nobody would want to hurt poor little we T-gender females.

[crankyt]

11:20 PM on 01/02/2012

I applaud this woman for beating back. APPLAUD.

Too many people live in little safe bubbles and think that violence is something icky that only happens to poor people.

Give 'er a medal.

Feel free to go bezerk. I won't change my opinion.

[campcranston]

06:38 PM on 01/31/2012

Violence? Beating someone for saying something you don't like should not be applauded. This person didn't make it out of the sandbox. And the phrase "beating back" is not appropriate, as she was never struck or even threatened.

[StrawHat]

06:09 PM on 01/02/2012

Healing starts with honesty: a desire to "escape" your sex/gender is not the same thing as actually BEING the opposite sex/gender.

Thoughts and feelings cannot change facts.

Telling you the truth isn't "hating" you or wishing you death or harm.

How boxed in has one become when the mere act of a person stating the objective facts to you is seen as a life-threatning attack?

I've come full-circle to realize that the violent man in this video was enabled by an attitude within the "trans" community that anyone who doesn't instantly and completely buy in is a mortal enemy.

[Valerie Keefe]

08:06 AM on 01/03/2012

Well the last person anyone took seriously (she's trying to make it more dangerous for sex workers in Canada, at the moment) who said chuck the transition and let's just use reparative therapy didn't really produce good results for the trans community. Zoe Brain estimates roughly 50,000 suicide and stress-related deaths due to the implementation of Janice Raymond's recommended changes to federal policy regarding transition medicine in the early 1980s.

We've tried this experiment, for fifteen years, and it didn't work well.

So yes, your position does threaten the lives of trans people. If you get your way there will be corpses of trans people to lay at your feet.

And you can't point to any reparative therapy programme that isn't pointing to what it laughably refers to as a success rate.

[StrawHat]

09:42 PM on 01/04/2012

If saying "That's a man" to a self-identified "trans woman" is akin to a mortal attack, then whatever you're doing isn't working.

Why isn't that obvious to you?

[Christina-Xena]

02:13 PM on 01/03/2012

FLAGGED! This "violent man" reference is made to the WOMAN victim in the artlcle!

Calling a person a sex different than their gender appearance is a sexual slur.
(not to mention is likely is opposite to their legal identity).

Trans-members, please help FLAG all such slurs by this person and others, and then they can get deleted a lot quicker.

[aflutterbug]

08:03 PM on 01/03/2012

"Calling a person a sex different than their gender appearance is a sexual slur."

But.... in another article in this section, we're told that it's OK for boys to wear wakeup and dresses... and still be boys.

The community wants laws to protect people who break sex stereotypes.

The community wants laws to enforce sex stereotypes.

Drag queens identify as men... but label themselves using female pronouns and slurs.

A transgender woman beats up a man for calling her a man... yet posts a video with a caption using slurs the public isn't suppoed to say (Google the story to get the original version).

It's all very confusing.

[independentvoter007]

03:14 PM on 02/03/2012

LOL, it is a man