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GOP Candidates Reveal How They Would Enact Pro-Life 'Personhood' Laws

First Posted: 12/28/2011 12:52 am Updated: 12/28/2011 10:45 am

WASHINGTON -- Four of the seven Republican presidential candidates reaffirmed their pro-life positions and pledged to protect fetal "personhood" both legislatively and constitutionally Tuesday night.

Former House speaker Newt Gingrich, former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) and Texas Gov. Rick Perry participated in the "pro-life teletown hall" organized by Personhood USA and other pro-life groups. The call came less than a week before the Jan. 3 Iowa Republican caucus, where anti-abortion and Christian voters are expected to play a significant role. More than 40,000 largely anti-abortion listeners tuned in on the radio or called in to the forum, according to the organizers.

The candidates took questions from some of the listeners as well as from Personhood USA's CEO Keith Mason, while syndicated conservative radio host Steve Deace served as moderator of the forum, which was broadcast on his program and 88 radio stations nationwide.

Personhood USA is best known as the group whose pledge requires that signors "defend all innocent human life," and reaffirm that "Abortion and the intentional killing of an innocent human being are always wrong and should be prohibited." The four candidates who participated in the call have all signed the pledge, as has Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), who issued a controversial clarification to his signing. Two candidates, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, have not signed the pledge.

Personhood USA spokeswoman Jennifer Mason told The Huffington Post Tuesday that all seven candidates had been invited to participate.

"We believe this forum was for candidates who signed the pledge without reservations, and if a candidate claims to be a Republican, then they should have no problem signing this pledge," Mason said.

During the call, each candidate played up his or her unique strength when it comes to the question of abortion rights, and each answered the same two questions posed by Personhood USA's Keith Mason: what shape Personhood legislation would take if the candidate were to become president, and what they would do in the event that the Supreme Court ruled Personhood legislation unconstitutional.

Each speaking in turn, Perry stressed his intent to appoint pro-life judges to the Supreme Court, Bachmann underscored her opposition to President Obama's Affordable Care Act, and Santorum reiterated his pro-life record in the Senate. Gingrich, not surprisingly, offered the boldest proposal of the night, saying he would "write [a Personhood] bill so that it is not appealable," and cited an example from 1802, when Thomas Jefferson and James Madison removed more than a dozen federal judges. Gingrich also pointed listeners to an extensive paper on his website, where he offers a controversial plan to subpoena federal judges to testify before Congress in the event that their rulings are deemed "Anti-American" by a hypothetical Gingrich administration.

Speaking first, Perry promised to "enforce the right to life" with a "human life amendment ... without waiting for the courts to overturn Roe vs. Wade," the current legal precedent that protects a woman's right to an abortion. "Roe vs. Wade will be overturned," he continued, "with a true pro-life president possibly appointing upwards of two or three new Supreme Court justices, so that would be my goal."

Perry also offered new details about what he characterized earlier Tuesday as a "transformation" in his position on abortion in cases of rape or incest. The change stemmed from a meeting with Personhood USA spokeswoman Rebecca Kiessling, a pro-life attorney, he said.

"We had a fairly lengthy and heartfelt conversation about how she was conceived in rape," Perry said, "and I couldn't come up with an answer to defend the exceptions [I have previously supported]."

"I would suggest that my pro-life position has been rather strong as governor of Texas," he continued, "but she made a a statement to me that pierced my heart, and I will suggest to you that as I signed that [Personhood] pledge … God was working on my heart."

Bachmann quoted the title of her new book "Core of Conviction" in her opening sentence, and pointed out that among the GOP candidates she was the first signor of the Personhood USA pledge. A source within Personhood USA said on background, "She signed the pledge and returned it within twenty minutes, which was an extraordinarily short amount of time."

Bachmann also focused her remarks on her efforts to repeal Obama's Affordable Care Act, but she didn't shy away from taking shots at other candidates as well. "We have candidates in this race who don't understand the sanctity of life," she said, ostensibly referring to fellow Republicans, "and I'm the only candidate in the race who actually will repeal Obamacare."

"The president can put abortion pills for girls 8 years of age, 11 years of age, on the bubblegum aisle," Bachmann continued, apparently in reference to a recommendation by the FDA that the morning after pill be available over the counter, which both the administration and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius recently rejected.

Asked how she would react were the Supreme Court to strike down Personhood legislation, Bachmann said, "Congress and the president need to retake back their power and authority and resubmit legislation and work it through ... The Supreme Court can't arbitrarily tell us what the law of the land is." The other two branches of government should "reclaim that authority to make law," she added.

Santorum didn't specifically outline what he would do as president to defend Personhood legislation, but said that "irrespective of what the court does, you do what you do, and you fight!" Santorum's focus was on legislative items, but he said "you can go the constitutional amendment route, which is a harder route to take, but it's really important to continue to challenge the court so it can see the error of its ways."

Santorum was likely aided among listeners Tuesday by the fact that he has received the endorsement of Bob Vander Plaats, the influential founder of the Family Leader, an Iowa-based Christian organization that promotes faith-based positions in national politics.

Gingrich went last, launching quickly into his historical example of Thomas Jefferson's challenge to federal judges in 1802.

Like the other candidates, Gingrich also promised to extend his pro-life views to the State Department, where he would reinstate the Mexico City Policy, put in place by President Ronald Reagan, which barred the United States from providing foreign aid funds to family planning groups which provided abortions. Obama overturned the policy upon taking office.

Gingrich went a step further, however, promising, to "overhaul the U.S. Foreign Service to get rid of the people who are aggressively pro-abortion and aggressively trying to pressure other governments into adopting pro-abortion positions."

Gingrich was cut off at the close of his remarks due to a glitch. At the close of the call, an announcer said Gingrich would be back to take listeners questions. But when the radio broadcast was over, Gingrich was gone. Mason, the Personhood USA spokeswoman, said there was a technical difficulty with the radio station, and Personhood USA has "extended apologies to Speaker Gingrich for the technical glitch."

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07:19 PM on 03/13/2012
There must be some limits to human conduct. Protecting human life that is innocent would seem an obvious one. But then again, without religion or moral laws, we are all adrift and subject to doing anything and everything that comes to mind.

Why is it wrong to murder (whether it be a baby at conception or an adult)? Moral law. Why is it wrong to steal? Moral law.

But it seems some are so interested in their own "freedom" (actually license to do whatever) they do not consider that their actions are harming others. This will not produce a better world here and now or in the future.
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DianePVK
No, you!!
03:57 PM on 01/03/2012
I just don't understand the argument over abortion. It should be really simple; If you don't want an abortion them don't get one. Why should your opinion be the law for everyone??

They want every child that is conceived to be born, but then they don't care about what happens to them after they are here. Let them eat cake.
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RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
11:52 AM on 01/02/2012
How is instituting non-scientific, far-right religious notions into law any different from using government to institute SHARIA LAW?

GOP (Greedy One Percent) FAIL!
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RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
11:50 AM on 01/02/2012
SInce there is ZERO scientific evidence supporting the claim that "life starts at conception," we can file this under "the GOP (Greedy One Percent) hates facts"

Along with:

Evolution
Global Warming
Basic math (Cutting taxes on the rich does not reduce deficits, it increases deficits)
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drpryce
Come on folks, a little common sense please.
07:43 PM on 12/31/2011
I can't help but laugh at these GOTPeople who pound the bible and the constitution simultaneously. Which part of separation of church and state do they not understand? Or freedom of religion? Or life, liberty abd the pursuit of happiness?
Why do they not get that your belief in and relationship with God is an intensely personal and individual thing that cannot be forced on any one person much less an entire nation; especially when that nation was originally created to welcome and accept all religions (including athiesm), all cultures (including the ones we do not approve of), and political persuasions.

See if you are against abortion, DO NOT GET ONE!!! If you know someone who says to you that she wants to get one, feel free to gently and lovingly dissuade her but be ready to love and support her anyway. She has God to answer to, not her government. The only thing that she owes the government is her allegience and her taxes.

Politicians need to stop trying to legislate morality (especially when they are unwilling or unable to live up to the rules they try to force on everyone else) and tend to the real needs of this country. They also need to remember that they represent ALL the people not just the ones that are part of their church or members of their country clubs.
06:48 PM on 12/31/2011
I really cannot fathom what the country would be like if any of these Republicans are elected because that will be the day I move to Canada, when they have public health care and abortion is legal and isn't controlled by the government. Politicians need to quit forcing their own beliefs onto Americans. Also, on the topic of legal/illegal abortion the only people I listen to are women - the people that abortion laws actually affect. All men need to shut up about any topic only pertaining to women's health.
06:15 PM on 12/31/2011
I am anti-abortion, so I am all for a "personhood" law. But I also know that nothing will change. The GOP has had 20 years on the American throne and NOTHING changed. GOP has had a majority in Congress several times and NOTHING changed. The power-brokers want world population at about 500,000,000, we have over seven billion. Abortion will never be outlawed again.
07:51 PM on 12/31/2011
Dr. Ron Paul would push for this to be a state issue. So some states would outlaw it. Ron Paul for life!
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11:31 AM on 12/31/2011
...dictatorship anyone?
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11:29 AM on 12/31/2011
...promising to subvert the law and democratic process is, oh, so unpresidential.
01:03 AM on 12/31/2011
So we want to ensure all foetuses survive, regardless of the circumstances of the life they are going to face, and then we work hard to cut government support to their destitute parents, we oppose any idea of providing them with free healthcare, and we end up seeing the position we are taking as more important than the individuals we are pretending to support. Ironic eh?
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11:43 AM on 12/31/2011
More like "mean and stupid".
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mstock57
Go commando
08:00 PM on 12/30/2011
Republican logic: If corporations are people why not zygotes?
07:52 PM on 12/31/2011
Dr. Ron Paul said corporations aren't people. He says un born babies are people. He has delivered 4,000 babies. Ron Paul 2012!
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DianePVK
No, you!!
03:59 PM on 01/03/2012
You and Ron Paul can pay to support all of the children, then. Sound good?
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kaykaythere
Game of Global ThermoNuclear NukeATroll anyone?
07:34 PM on 12/30/2011
If we lived in a perfect world, no one would require the procedure.

If we lived in a more perfect world, there would be zygote transplants where the zygote could be removed from one woman and implanted in a woman who wants a baby.

But until that day, we should do our best to limit abortions, but make it the choice of the woman, not Congress or some evangelical.....
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06:29 PM on 12/30/2011
Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate.

Monty Python.
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06:28 PM on 12/30/2011
Protect 'em in utero and slap a gun in their hand when they turn 18. It's the American way.
05:39 PM on 12/30/2011
** Zygotes and corporations are worthy of personhood. Expectant 13-year olds? Not so much.
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ragdolly
Consider the lilies of the field.
10:30 PM on 12/31/2011
Actually that is a common exaggeration of who really has abortions in this country.
11:06 PM on 04/13/2012
Doesnt matter. An embryo is just a bunch of cells growing in the body. If you dont want the responsibility of having a child, you stop it.