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Super PAC Disclosure Requirements Hot Topic Of Conversation Among GOP Candidates

First Posted: 01/05/2012 1:55 pm Updated: 01/05/2012 5:32 pm

TILTON, N.H. -- The rapid rise and far-reaching impact of super PACs -- the well-financed non-party groups that helped carry former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney to victory in the Iowa caucuses -- have persuaded some prominent Republicans that restrictions of some sort on the groups' activities may be in order.

In an interview with The Huffington Post on Wednesday evening, former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge said he saw no legal way in which to limit the amount of money that these groups could spend or raise. But he said that both he and the candidate he supports, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, believed firmly that the names of the donors funding those groups should be subject to near instantaneous disclosure.

"I've talked to Jon about this and he and I are like-minded," said Ridge. "He has a modest super PAC [supporting him]. I have felt for the longest time, it is very unlikely that the Supreme Court of the United States would put financial limits on free speech. But I think it is within the power of the president and the Congress to say: 'Guess what? Any contribution in excess of $500 to $1,000 to you personally or the super PAC, it is on the Internet within 24 hours, so people can know.' Not quarterly. Transparency now, it is the best antiseptic."

Told that his proposed solution echoes the general theory behind the campaign finance disclosure legislation that Democrats failed to move through the Senate in 2010, Ridge argued that a bit of presidential leadership could do the trick. As of now, there are no plans to reintroduce the bill, known as the DISCLOSE Act.

Under current law, super PACs can chose to file the names of their donors either quarterly or monthly. If they elect to do so quarterly, then they only have to file twice during an off-year of an election cycle such as 2011. Several groups chose to begin filing on a monthly basis toward the end of this year so as to avoid disclosing their donors before the Iowa caucus.

"In a 21st century world, if anybody wants to give a candidate one million or two million dollars, give it. But I want every journalist, every opponent, every taxpayer, every citizen to know that that's who gave it," said Ridge. "They may draw no conclusions. They may draw the wrong conclusion. They may draw the right conclusion."

"I asked Jon if he had thought about it," Ridge added. "He said, 'I'm there.'"

While Ridge's problems with the influence of super PACs comes from a more philosophical perspective, those who have been hammered by negative ads paid for by the groups are speaking out as well. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, whose hopes in Iowa succumbed to millions of dollars in ads in super PAC ads, has not stopped complaining about the treatment he received in the state since.

Even Romney, the candidate whose well-moneyed allies are responsible for the super PAC attacks against Gingrich, has said that he would like to see those groups eliminated. The former Massachusetts Gov. received an endorsement from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) this week, who lamented on Thursday that his signature campaign finance law, the McCain-Feingold Act, was gutted by the Supreme Court in Citizens United, the decision that paved the way for super PACs to emerge.

"What is happening now is what I predicted," McCain told CBS. "The United States Supreme Court -- in what I think is one of the worst decisions in history -- struck down the restrictions in the so-called McCain-Feingold Law, and a lot of people don't agree with that, but I predicted when the United States Supreme Court, with their absolute ignorance of what happens in politics, struck down that law, that there would be a flood of money into campaigns, not transparent, unaccounted for, and this is exactly what is happening."

No one, it appears, seems willing to defend the way in which the groups currently operate. And yet, if political pressure is mounting for more transparency in campaigns, it hasn't yet managed to move the candidates. Gingrich still says he supports the Citizens United ruling, despite all the direct political hardships it may have caused his career.

"I would actually rather support eliminating all of the various rules that stop people, middle class people, from raising money and instead allow people to donate unlimited after-tax money as long as they report it every single night on the Internet," Gingrich said. "Then the candidates would have the money, the candidates would run the ads."

And while McCain may have offered a round of I-told-you-so's during a round of media appearances Thursday morning, he spent the afternoon pitching voters on a candidate who has shunned transparency at all corners. Romney has declined to list the names of his campaign bundlers and has said that he won't release his tax returns, even if he were to win the Republican nomination. During the 2008 presidential campaign, McCain did both.

"McCain laments 'a flood of money into campaigns. Not transparent; unaccounted for,' then gives a big hint about how he would answer critics of Romney's non-disclosure: 'And those are the rules, and everyone is playing by those rules,'" emailed Larry Noble, a nationally recognized expert on campaign finance, ethics and lobbying at the firm Skadden, Arps. "While the rules do not require the presidential campaigns to disclose most bundlers or their tax returns, McCain can say Romney is playing by the rules, but can't say he is doing what McCain thinks he should be doing."

"Also, Romney seems to have fully embraced the idea that corporations are people, so that is another issue on which he and McCain disagree," Noble added. "I suspect money in politics and campaign finance issues are not high on the list of topics they talk about when together."

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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
03:19 PM on 01/08/2012
I'ts just a little ironic that the co-author of campaign finance has joined at the hip with the individual with whom the republican cantidates have the biggest beef regarding super PACs.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
03:15 PM on 01/08/2012
"But he said that both he and the candidate he supports, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, believed firmly that the names of the donors funding those groups should be subject to near instantaneous disclosure.

"I've talked to Jon about this and he and I are like-minded," said Ridge. "He has a modest super PAC [supporting him]. I have felt for the longest time, it is very unlikely that the Supreme Court of the United States would put financial limits on free speech. But I think it is within the power of the president and the Congress to say: 'Guess what? Any contribution in excess of $500 to $1,000 to you personally or the super PAC, it is on the Internet within 24 hours, so people can know.' Not quarterly. Transparency now, it is the best antiseptic.""
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It's kind of ironic that PACs and super PACs are the republicans vehicles of choice. It seems that they were fine when they originally target democrats, but now that they can wreak havoc within their own party some feel that they aren't such good ideas.

The problem they have to wrestle with is the same issue opponents of super PACs have raised - free speech. How can speech be free when represented in donation dollars from anonymous parties? Can free speech be anonymous? Can dollar limits be attached to that speech?

Ultimately, it may be the republican party itself that may cause the matter to return to the Supreme Court.
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mater
mater
10:53 AM on 01/08/2012
Disingenuous remarks, John and actions, with Romney, speak louder than those words, and maybe you should have checked out how transparent he was willing to be before you ran up to NH to endorse him? Just saying...
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pat2 718
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04:43 AM on 01/08/2012
It's unfortunate that Buddy Roemer and Gary Johnson have been systematically excluded from the GOP debates and ignored by the media (with the exception of MSNBC). Roemer has been steadily campaigning against the toxic influence of bought politics.
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greenmonk
The Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself
06:49 PM on 01/06/2012
All this questioning of the Citizens United ruling during the Republican primary will be water under the bridge come the general election. Then they will be screaming about being able to spend as much as they (or their corporate lobbyists) want to, because they will get more from Corporate America than the Democrats.
04:29 PM on 01/06/2012
Commercial media are exempt from American campaign laws. Does the management of the HuffingtonPost believe individuals and groups enjoy the same exemption?
marilyn 63
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02:25 PM on 01/06/2012
hey Republicans? citizens united is your baby!! and look how it has metastasized and disrespects what the country is supposed to stand for..
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BeachSaint
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11:58 AM on 01/06/2012
Whether $1 or $1million, I think anyone who donates should be disclosed. I'd like to know what type of people support a candidacy.
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01:27 PM on 01/06/2012
Same here...
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yougg
just a citizen
09:57 AM on 01/06/2012
The GOP wanted this and now it is coming back to bite them. Priceless. Interesting to hear John McCain speak up about this. Actually part of the problem with the McCain/Feingold bill was the media (TV) refusal to give free air time to cantidates for campaigning, These entities were granted existance to serve in the "public interest."
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kurtvb
Knowledge is Power
08:22 AM on 01/06/2012
So, now even the RIPublicans are lamenting the overreach of the ultra-conservative Supreme Court. But the genie is out of the bottle, Pandora's box is open, and it can't be put back without an Amendment to the Constitution. The best we could do is to enact a new DISCLOSE Act that requires every penny be accounted for publicly, that no foreign corporation or their US subsidiaries can donate money, and that individual donations must be made only by verifiable US citizens. The penalty for accepting foreign money is two and one half times the donation received and the 60 day suspension of all activities.
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libwithaclue
GOPers taste like chicken and smell like......
08:05 AM on 01/06/2012
Public financing of elections. Period. Get money out of politics.
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yougg
just a citizen
10:01 AM on 01/06/2012
There a couple of states that have public financing of elections. New Mexico and Vermont are the two that come to mind. Michigan has had term limits for the legislature for 20+ years. Of course the legislators squawk about geting termed out. But it hasn't worked out that badly.
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08:32 AM on 01/07/2012
You are confusing CAMPAIGN funding with independant spending by independant groups.

Should I be able to run an ad on TV for/against a candidate? If I am, how about if I get together with a couple of like minded people ... should we be able to run an ad on TV for/against a candidate? If I'm not, should anybody else be able to? Why should a newpaper, broadcaster or website be able to and I can't? Who determines just who is allowed to share their thoughts and opinions with whom? Free speech comes with consequences.
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libwithaclue
GOPers taste like chicken and smell like......
11:14 AM on 01/07/2012
Democracy to the highest bidder? The corporatization of America? That will destroy this country and create the largest fascist state in history. Is that the America that you want? You really want trillions of our tax dollars going to the rich corporate class, then having that same money used to buy our government? It already happening. Open your eyes.
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organicgirltoo
Feed your cells they will thank you one day.
06:41 AM on 01/06/2012
Wait. Didn't Republicans vote against disclosure when Obama tried to get it?
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08:35 AM on 01/07/2012
You can't make policy if your ox is being gored, and a couple of politicians who's ox is being gored, don't speak for the Republican position. If you think donors to PACs should be required to be disclosed, how about the Name, Address and Phone number of anyone who posts on a politically focused web site?
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hanspij
06:32 AM on 01/06/2012
''it is very unlikely that the Supreme Court of the United States would put financial limits on free speech," said Ridge

This sentence is the most undemocratic, and dangerous phrase I've ever gezien.Now I understand a lot more about what the U.S. thinks about democracy. For us it is like saying'' a bullet is free speech''En how you get on to see companies as people ... You just have to go back to the past, and I mean the past of the rise of democracy and how that was meant.
The old greeks wil be turning in their graves when they hear what you have made from Democratie!!!
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01:29 PM on 01/06/2012
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08:38 AM on 01/07/2012
What!? Huh? This is just gobbledy gook. What would be the basis for the SCOTUS to "put financial limits on free speech"?
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hanspij
02:38 AM on 01/08/2012
Name calling is realy a sighn for intelect!
And read the whole thing plz. I didnt write the piece. I just comment,and quote some.But seems to me thats to hard for you to understand.And my freedom isnt on the line, it yours.
05:49 AM on 01/06/2012
like wars - repubs start them then...
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kbeth
Dear Jesus, Save us from the Christians. Amen
05:44 AM on 01/06/2012
Republicans loved the idea of corporate personhood and unlimited Super PAC funds, until they realized they could be used against them.