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Hospital Quits Hiring Smokers, Introduces Nicotine Tests For Medical Workers

Hospital Quits Hiring Smokers

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 01/05/12 06:33 PM ET Updated: 01/05/12 06:33 PM ET

Smokers in the medical field now have another reason to quit as a Pennsylvania hospital has said it will no longer hire smokers and is introducing nicotine tests in order to enforce the rule.

Geisinger Health System's smoke-free health policy will go into effect on Feb. 1, according to KKTV.com.

"Not only do we want to practice what we preach, but we also want our employees to feel healthy, we want our patients and visitors to feel that they are in a healthy environment. So it's an overall commitment to the well-being of all those people," Geisinger spokeswoman Marcy Marshall told the Vancouver Sun.

Those exposed to second hand smoke will be exempt from the test, which screens applicants for cigarettes, smokeless tobacco, snuff, nicotine patches, nicotine gum and cigars.

For those who fail the test, the hospital says applicants can reapply after six months, KKTV.com reported.

According to CNN, Pennsylvania is among 19 states that allow employers to screen job applicants for signs of smoking.

While there's certainly an incentive to keep employees healthy for work, the economic benefit of having non-smokers on the payroll is also notable. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) puts a $3,391 price tag on each employee who smokes: $1,760 in lost productivity and $1,623 in excess medical expenditures.

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04:12 PM on 01/08/2013
I chewed tobacco for over ten years and have recently started using an ecig. Should I be discriminated against because I use a less harmful form of nicotine that is tobacco and smoke free? Should I not be allowed to take a few drags off my ecig while in the bathroom?
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dbrett480
02:50 PM on 01/10/2012
Interesting idea. This definitely could be challenged since smoking is completely legal.
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Felicia Hunter
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03:00 PM on 01/08/2012
I smoked a pack a day for five years.... my now husband wanted me to quite when we started dating. Its been 3 years now and there are still sometimes I think to myself "mhmm i could just take one puff.... I could go back to smoking" but its really not that hard to tell that part of your mind "NO". The first 2-3 weeks were by far the worst, then it got easier and easier. What I think helped me so much is I knew my husband would kill me if he found packs of ciggs, so I didnt buy them.... instead I bought single ciggs at 50 cents a pop.... and it honestly helped me slowly wean myself off of them!!!
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11:57 AM on 01/08/2012
Well, how about tesing for alcohol. What about a diet HIGH in fat...better check cholesterol as well. And if you are diabetic? That also costs HUGE amounts for insurance companies. Be careful what you wish for people.
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Jondrea Smith
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02:10 PM on 01/09/2012
I agree with your questions, and I have yet to see anybody coherently answer what is to be done once the problem is discovered. Denying a person a job for smoking is deemed 'for their own good,' so I guess the eviction notice is just a 'lesson learned?' smh
08:32 AM on 01/08/2012
Wow....watch out fat people. Maybe a law ......no elevators for you. Really, this is just not right
11:27 AM on 01/07/2012
It's a dirty habit, it's completely voluntary, it causes workers to become distracted and take time off, it annoys everyone in the area, and it causes stress on the environment.

People with children should be be denied employment.

Then all you sheep can take another happy step in the direction of the totalitarian world that you are so quick to happily embrace.
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K lo31
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10:45 AM on 01/07/2012
this is against the Law........ period.......... discriminating against people using a legal Product...if this is the way people want it then cigs should be illegal ...they wont do that cause cities and states get money off the taxes.. treating smokers like lepors is wrong ...doesn't matter how non-smokers feel.... smokers should have a place to smoke just as a non-smoker should have a place to breathe there's enough room here for both drunks get treated better and its a product that kills just as much as smoking but i don't see any uproar there.... actions like this is wrong and opens the door for more exclusionary tactics in the work place.......non-smokers only see that they hate smoking and don't care how the laws are being twisted and used .....Pandora's box seems like a good reference..
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chelledc
11:50 AM on 01/07/2012
"non-smok­ers only see that they hate smoking and don't care how the laws are being twisted and used"
That's actually not true. this non-smoker does not like this new rule and thinks that as long as they aren't taking smoke breaks during work hours then there isn't a problem with hiring a smoker.
08:32 PM on 01/08/2012
It's NOT illegal. Employers can set whatever hiring criteria they want except for race/ethnicity/nationality, gender, religion, (sometimes) disability, or sexual orientation (in some states). Smoking doesn't fall under any of those categories.
10:33 AM on 01/07/2012
No more fat people either, extremely poor example. And talking about health costs, wow out of control. Dont lots of fat people eat at McDonalds? I think if seen eating at a fast food restaurant of any kind or choosing the wrong items from any menu, one should not be hired anywhere. That should show them. Oh, and those diabetics that dont keep their sugars under control "good" enough, they're out too. Hummh lets see what else we can control. Sounds alot like segregation of the past doesnt it? Amazing how people can fall for this very scarey Nazi-like farce.
10:25 AM on 01/07/2012
Smokers stink.

It is not a very attractive habit and it kills.
10:23 AM on 01/07/2012
Tobacco companies are the only company I know that kill their best customers.
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chelledc
11:51 AM on 01/07/2012
Fast food companies
Alcohol companies
Soda companies
etc
06:41 PM on 01/07/2012
...Hatfield, Smithfield, Tyson, Purdue, Cargill...
04:41 AM on 01/07/2012
This is one small step towards regulating (read: CONTROLLING) people's behavior even more. I don't care what the argument is, the fact is that this hospital (and other employers like them) are dictating to people that they can't use a legal product in their off time in their own homes. Anyone who agrees with this policy will be singing a different tune when their employers decide they don't like something that THEY do. Wake up and quit being such sheep.
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MorpheusXNYC
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12:40 AM on 01/07/2012
Whoah... Progressive Democrat and non-smoker here and I think that this violates personal freedom in an egregious way.

They could just charge the smokers more in health insurance premiums and dock their wages for their smoke breaks. That would serve as incentive, but to discriminate against smokers for their lifestyle and health-related habits opens the door to discriminating against the obese for their eating habits, etc.

Higher premiums and less pay are far better incentive than legislating personal taste.
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Jimmy B
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11:58 AM on 01/07/2012
'Smoker' is not a protected class, it is a choice, so as the job belongs to the employer and is there's to give to whomever they choose they can absolutely choose to not hire smokers. It violates nothing. As someone who has been in healthcare most of my life, if I had the opportunity to hire two completely equal RNs, RTs, MDs, whats-have-yous, equal in all abilities other than one smokes, I'd choose the non-smoker. One who works striving to make others healthiy who does not do the same for themselves in my opinion is not smart enough to do the job.
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MorpheusXNYC
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09:03 PM on 01/07/2012
It's not about whether or not they are a "protected class". It's about protecting individual freedoms and against discrimination for personal taste issues.

If they can employ hiring discrimination against you because you're a smoker, they can do the same because you're a Democrat or you like the wrong sports team or you're into S&M, or you'r pro-choice, etc.

I have no problem with them charging smokers higher premiums or docking them for smoke breaks, etc. That's commensurate with the higher health risks associated with smoking.

I'm a former smoker myself so I'm definitely NOT a fan of smoking and think it needs to go away, but when you give people the right to discriminate in whether or not to hire you based on things lie that, you open the door to SO much more in SO many more creative ways than you can envision.

Smoking is a problem, but it's still a free country. In a hospital, there may be specific exceptions due to the health related nature of the industry, but a regular office job?

That's just discrimination, plain and simple.
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12:00 PM on 01/08/2012
So would you hire a FAT person...Or a closet alcoholic? They also make choices to make themselves unhealthy. And the diseases associated with being fat and drinking cost insurance companies a lot of money. Be careful people....slipperly slope to having NO rights left
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flabingo
12:30 AM on 01/07/2012
A step in the right direction.
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K lo31
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10:58 AM on 01/07/2012
poor misguided individual....and when something you do becomes distasteful lets see what direction you'll be when your freedoms are being stomped on...you people say your for freedom but your not .....your only about what you feel is tasteful , the whole thing about being a free country is bull-ish to you
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Lonnie DeVorak
10:45 PM on 01/06/2012
Everyone always has to tell everyone what to do. Sounds like my wife.
04:25 AM on 01/07/2012
Sounds more like my NANNY!!
09:07 PM on 01/06/2012
Pretty simply, kill your self but please do not kill others or make others suffer so you can blow smoke.