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Symantec Hack Exposes Antivirus Source Code

Symantec Hack

Posted: 01/06/12 05:49 PM ET


By Nicola Leske

(Reuters) - Symantec Corp, the top maker of security software, said hackers had exposed a chunk of its source code, which is essentially the blueprint for its products, potentially giving rivals some insight into the company's technology.

The developer of the popular Norton antivirus software said the hackers stole the code from a third party and that the company's own network had not been breached, nor had any customer information been affected.

The software maker would not confirm the claim of a group called the Lords of Dharmaraja, who said that they had obtained Symantec's source code by hacking the Indian military.

Some governments ask their security vendors to provide their source code to ensure there is nothing in the code that could act as spyware, said Rob Rachwald, director of security strategy at data security firm Imperva.

Microsoft Corp, for example, in 2003 began allowing governments including Russia and international organizations such as NATO to look at the source code for its Windows operating system to dispel rumors that it had a secret "back door" built in to let the U.S. government spy on its users.

Symantec downplayed the risks, saying the exposed code was several years old.

"Symantec can confirm that a segment of its source code used in two of our older enterprise products has been accessed, one of which has been discontinued," Cris Paden, a spokesman for Symantec, said in an email on Friday.

Symantec, which reported $1.68 billion in sales in the third quarter, has benefited from heightened concern over hacking in the wave of high-profile attacks on Google Inc, Lockheed Martin and Nasdaq OMX Group Inc.

A software maker's intellectual property, specifically its source code, is its most precious asset. Symantec's Norton Internet Security is among the most popular software available to stop viruses, spyware, and online identity theft.

The code that was exposed for Symantec Endpoint Protection (SEP) 11.0 - which is used to block outgoing data from being leaked - was four years old and had been updated regularly since, Paden said.

The code for Symantec Antivirus 10.2 was five years old and had been discontinued, he said, adding that while it was not on sale anymore it was still being serviced.

"There are no indications that customer information has been impacted or exposed at this time," Paden said.

Rachwald said it was likely that Symantec's source code had been overhauled and that there was not much in the exposed code that the hackers did not know before.

"The workings of most of the anti-virus' algorithms have also been studied already by hackers in order to write the malware that defeats them," Rachwald said in a blog on the Imperva website.

Unlike hackers who aim to get around firewalls and software protection, rivals could be more interested in having the source code to study the market leader's software, Rachwald said.

On Thursday, the Lords of Dharmaraja said on the information-sharing website pastebin that it would soon list a Norton antivirus source code package. A person using the handle "Yama Tough" posted several items in an effort to prove the group had accessed the code.

"...we are sharing here one technical documentation file from Symantec Soruce (sic) Code transferred to Indian Military Intel and located at MEA (Ministry of External Affairs) servers we owneed (sic) recently," Yama Tough posted.

(Reporting by Nicola Leske in New York, additional reporting by Jim Finkle in Boston, editing by Matthew Lewis)

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04:20 PM on 01/09/2012
Good for them, their software is almost impossible to remove.
03:23 PM on 01/09/2012
I had a virus once
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Desolati0n
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08:47 AM on 01/09/2012
Ninjas can't catch you if you have Norton.
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08:54 PM on 01/08/2012
Symantec products, in my experience, suck the performance right out of your machine. For those few people who consult me that still run windoze, I recommend f-secure. The rest do what I've done for the last fifteen years -- I run Linux, and use adblock on Firefox. Problem solved, you get your performance back, and never have to spend another dime on software. I suggest Ubuntu, or Mint if you want more "traditional" looking menus.
06:30 PM on 01/08/2012
What scrublord has used a Symantec product willingly in the last 15 years?
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George Cummings
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12:09 PM on 01/08/2012
So..you have self proclaimed experts coming here telling you that ya don't need AV software. After all THEY'VE never had a problem without it. Don't listen to them.
Question would then be, how do they know? How could they possibly know if they're not looking?
Modern malware isn't your dad's virus. It doesn't go after deleting your hard drive or making your floppy drive not work.. it does other things you may never even notice. Making your computer a node for a DOS attack network, keyboard loggers to get your personal info other stuff... If they ARE doing any use of resources you might notice, the good ones run low priority and 'hide' when you touch the mouse or keyboard.
I'm not going to mention my credentials because there;s no way to tell what's true in an anonymous post, but I can assure you they're good enough to stand up to a kid with a 14 month AAS degree from ITT tech..
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Kristopher Leang
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12:43 PM on 01/08/2012
its called a mac. deal with it
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George Cummings
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12:47 PM on 01/08/2012
It's called googling on 'mac apple malware virus' and educating yourself.
Try it.
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PhilliePhan
Fueling the jet...
04:49 PM on 01/08/2012
MAC's have viruses and flaws as well. Stop pretending that MAC's are not vunerable. And they cost about twice as much. Now. I've have had a PC (since 1981) and a MAC (since 1984, Apple ]['s before) and have NEVER had a problem with either. Stop all the blubber mouth nonsense.
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11:38 AM on 01/08/2012
"Symantec downplayed the risks, saying the exposed code was several years old."

So, in other words, it's their current code base?
06:33 PM on 01/08/2012
That's completely unfair. Symantec's patented "stop malware by blocking ALL inbound and outbound traffic to the router = SECURED!" methodology isn't all that old!
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oneyippie
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11:28 AM on 01/08/2012
I never like Norton, esp. when it came pre-installed on a new computer, forcing me to uninstall it, which never goes well. I've been using Zone Alarm which hasn't let anything bother me in years!
11:18 AM on 01/08/2012
No Geek worth his/her salt would ever use Symantec for anything.
06:34 PM on 01/08/2012
Uninstalling Symantec stuff requires special software to root it out of the system entirely.

Remind you of anything?
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Desolati0n
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08:49 AM on 01/09/2012
Ha, your response made my day. F&F.
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Warren Yuill
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09:18 AM on 01/08/2012
The first time I ever bought anything online, my credit card number got pinched.
I was buying anti-virus software.
I researched the software.
I was mailed a free 90 day full working version.
At the end of ninty days I felt confident enough to purrchase and download the full registered version.
Thats when I got pinched.
Amex called me to inquire about a 2500 dolllar money transfer. (thanks again Amex)
WTF is a regular meatball like me to do about internet security???
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chasgato
11:11 AM on 01/08/2012
your credit card is much more likely to get, ya know....pinched at a restaurant than online

/yo!
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George Cummings
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12:17 PM on 01/08/2012
virtually certain you already had a keyboard logger on your system before you started shopping.
Your CC number was undoubtedly stolen before you even went to the AV site.
I've been using CC;s on the internet for 15 years now without a problem.
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
03:35 PM on 01/08/2012
Its weird though, I had been using a antivirus program for a few months that supposedly updated itself everyday before i entered my CC number.On a site that you would have thought was secure.
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Billk29
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08:33 AM on 01/08/2012
Everyone should be worried about these hackers breaking into antivirus company programs. One of these days you might find it's your personal banking information that's being sold to the highest bidder.
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11:50 PM on 01/07/2012
If you guys truly want to dig deep on a Norton uninstallation, be sure to use the Revo Uninstaller. It will first address the Norton built-in uninstaller and then continue on per your instructions to go deeper and remove all vestiges of the software signatures. It is really a great tool that goes far beyond the Windows Uninstaller built in to the OS that you are using. An amazing one, at that!
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IfIonlyknew
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03:02 PM on 01/08/2012
That is a good tool indeed.
06:36 PM on 01/08/2012
It really and truly is fantastic. If you'd like to uninstall stuff without leaving all kinds of "OH WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THIS HERE JUST IN CASE YOU REINSTALL US" cruft behind to cause problems later, it's the only choice.
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11:18 PM on 01/07/2012
Use Microsoft's security essentials. It's free and from the company that made the OS. If you sandbox your browser sessions, you really don't have to worry about malware.
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PhilliePhan
Fueling the jet...
04:51 PM on 01/08/2012
Fianlly someone with somne sense on this site!
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jcd8822
11:17 PM on 01/07/2012
Glad I do not have Norton.
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11:11 PM on 01/07/2012
ESET ... I rest my case.

t runs in the background, does what is supposed to do and does not act like a babysitter.