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Justice Stephen Breyer Wades Into Supreme Court Ethics Debate

Stephen Breyer Supreme Court Ethics Debate

By JESSICA GRESKO   01/ 7/12 05:16 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON -- Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer waded into a recent debate over ethics on the nation's highest court Saturday, defending the way he and his colleagues decide whether to remove themselves from considering a case.

In recent months lawmakers and interest groups have called for two of the Supreme Court's nine justices to remove themselves from the coming arguments over President Barack Obama's health care law for ethical reasons. Republicans want Justice Elena Kagan to recuse herself from the case because of her work as solicitor general in the Obama administration. Democrats, meanwhile, say Justice Clarence Thomas should not consider the case because of his wife's work with groups that opposed the health care overhaul.

Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts defended his colleagues' ethical practices in late December in an annual year-end report to Congress. He wrote that justices voluntarily follow the same code of conduct required of lower court judges. And he said he has "complete confidence" in his colleagues' ability to decide whether to withdraw from considering a case.

Speaking at a conference of law school professors being held in Washington, Breyer also defended the court's ethical practices in response to a question.

"There's a code of ethics. It's 24 volumes. It's in my office. It's up in the library. Before I have any case that involves ethics I go read it and see what's there," he said, adding that the code and two statutes guide him in the same way they do any lower court judge.

"We are bound. We're acting as if we're bound," he said of the code of conduct.

But Breyer, who was appointed to the Supreme Court by President Bill Clinton in 1994, acknowledged there is a difference in the way a lower court judge and a Supreme Court justice decides to sit out a case. When he was a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the First Circuit, he said, he'd recuse himself if there was a close ethical question of whether he should hear the case.

"Why not? I hate to admit it, but judges are fungible. If they don't have me they can get somebody else. Who cares?" Breyer said of that time.

Now, however, as a Supreme Court justice, whether he participates in a case or not could change the result because no one can replace him, he said.

"That means I have to take with absolute seriousness the obligation to sit as well as the obligation not to sit," he said, echoing sentiments also expressed by the Chief Justice in his report.

When he has a question about a case, he said he looks at the code of ethics, reads the statute and then calls an ethics professor for advice.

"All my colleagues try to do the same thing, so I think this is a non-issue," he said.

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WASHINGTON -- Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer waded into a recent debate over ethics on the nation's highest court Saturday, defending the way he and his colleagues decide whether to remove thems...
WASHINGTON -- Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer waded into a recent debate over ethics on the nation's highest court Saturday, defending the way he and his colleagues decide whether to remove thems...
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moonlightesq
05:43 PM on 01/11/2012
I do not always agree with Justice Breyer's decisions, but I respect each SC justice's decision, because they are thorough and work hard enough to be in their positions today. Like it or not, the SC justices are appointed for life, and are here to stay.
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rgilley
Question Authority!
08:47 AM on 01/09/2012
The right wing stacked Roberts SCOTUS is stealing Democracy from Americans and giving it to their 1%er backers. THAT is an excelent example of WHY we should do away completely with ANY lifetime appointments anywhere in our government Immediately!
06:18 AM on 01/09/2012
How can there be an arguement over this. The consititution give the government the right to tax. It does not give the government the right to penalize a person for an inactivety. If democrats would have call the manadate a tax there would have been no problem. But if they would have said they are raising taxes then there would have been a problem passing obamacare. Look at the nineth circiut court, its ruling have nothing to do with the consititution but with a politicial agenda. The problem is that some view thier job to write laws not enforce the law.
04:47 AM on 01/09/2012
But, is that actually true? I somehow doubt it. It appears to me some justices shade their ethics.
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rgilley
Question Authority!
08:48 AM on 01/09/2012
Thomas and Scalia have made very clear their far right wing agendas. We need to END lifetime appointments NOW!
03:18 AM on 01/09/2012
the Thomas demand is stupid....it's OK for gay judges to rule on gay issues but it's not OK for Thomas to rule on something his wife is doing....LOL
04:49 AM on 01/09/2012
How about his participation in the Federalist Society?
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jmac44
Motto: Sweep the HOUSE CLEAN 2014"
03:13 PM on 01/10/2012
Scalia, Clarence Thomas & his Koch sponsored tea bag wife, ginny, have been bought & paid for.. they are all spokespersons at fund raisers that bash Obama Cares... Ginny Thomas has smugly & loudly stated that "she" knows people in "high places" that will do all they can to defeat The Affordable Health Care Act...

None of these people will ever have to worry about their "health care"... They will be expedient when they take it away from you... When you have SCOTUS justices that even "appear" they have prejudged and made a decision based on the very deep pockets of the Koch's, they should indeed.... step away....
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Steelsil
Warren/Grayson 2016! Yes We Can!
01:53 AM on 01/09/2012
Absolute power has corrupted the Supreme Court absolutely.
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David Hundley
Deep In The Heart of Taxes
11:47 PM on 01/08/2012
It is simple mathematics, give the people money that the government takes from the people to provide for their healthcare and we will all be fine. United Health has bought and paid for a lot of politicians on this matter. That is what the supreme court should consider. Corporate Influence on American Politics.
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Steelsil
Warren/Grayson 2016! Yes We Can!
01:54 AM on 01/09/2012
Apparently you don't get it. Big business has corrupted the 5 Republicans on the Supreme Court.
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jmac44
Motto: Sweep the HOUSE CLEAN 2014"
03:19 PM on 01/10/2012
Really?... the same SCOTUS that gave us "Citizens United"... The freedom to purchase the politician of your choice... in quiet, behind closed doors, with masks, and lots of cash... How much does a Supreme Court Justice go for today?...

Supreme Court, the highest court in the land..... that has sunk to the lowest level in the land...
09:42 PM on 01/08/2012
"There's a code of ethics. It's 24 volumes. It's in my office. It's up in the library. Before I have any case that involves ethics I go read it and see what's there," he said"

That makes one of you.
SoCalGrandma
Question consumption.
10:31 PM on 01/08/2012
Next time, you might take Justice Thomas with you to the library, just so he knows there is a code of ethics.
11:36 PM on 01/08/2012
LOL....Thomas needs a library card. ;o)
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jmac44
Motto: Sweep the HOUSE CLEAN 2014"
03:25 PM on 01/10/2012
Do you think he really cares?.. He got his job, his security, his lifetime benefits, courtsey of the tax payers... He & his tea bag wife attend all the Koch functions... participate in the elite parties... uses all his influence, like Scalia to enhance the position of the urber wealthy....

Do ya think he even glaced at an "ethics" coloring book?....
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peter777
07:54 PM on 01/08/2012
Perhaps we need alternative justices for replacing those with clear conflicts. It is done with juries. I suggest a rotating system with Courts of Appeal judges as the backup alternates. Problem with the structure of the Supreme Court is that with lifetime appointments, their develops a sense of entitlement among some justices. They seem to lose touch with reality and with the intent of the Constitution (e.g. giving corporations the rights of natural persons).
11:34 PM on 01/08/2012
The problem is not coming up with substitutions. Any federal judge could substitute. The problem is that in close cases you would leave the law unsettled, as when the issue came back up in a form that did not present the conflict, the justice that recused him or herself would now be part of the court, and the decision might come down the other way.
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cvermeulen9
And you thought it could never happen!
07:05 PM on 01/08/2012
I have full confidence in the supreme court. They know the Law and more importantly the Consitution of the United States thus Cositutional law. There can be no other outcome than to Strik down Obama care as un Consitutional either in whole or part, they will have no choice. That will send them back to the drawing board.
08:18 PM on 01/08/2012
Based on your extensive knowledge of constitutional law, I'm sure. Apparently the commerce clause as not crossed your right wing ideologically driven mind.
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cvermeulen9
And you thought it could never happen!
07:14 AM on 01/09/2012
I do believe reading comp 101 is in your future. I bet there is a lot of confusion in your world and misunderstandings...
09:43 PM on 01/08/2012
Huh, full confidence that they will arbitrarily strike down a law regardless of it's constitutionality. In other words you are confident that the SC will do what is in their partisan best interest.
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cvermeulen9
And you thought it could never happen!
07:15 AM on 01/09/2012
Please do not respond if you cant understand what you are reading.
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moonlightesq
05:32 PM on 01/11/2012
Breyer, who was appointed to the Supreme Court by President Bill Clinton, also defended the court's ethical practices in response to a question. Stressing that justices voluntarily follow the same code of conduct required of lower court judges.

What is arbitary about the ethics rules the SC justices follow? and where does it say in this article that the justices are not following the Constitution???

I agree with cvermeulen9, you need to read the articel before commenting.
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yauxeybalba
“We are all visitors to this time, this place. W
06:36 PM on 01/08/2012
Black little moles scurrying furtively through their secret tunnels...
jimbo57
ni dieu ni maitre
06:28 PM on 01/08/2012
I wonder who gives Scalia advice on ethics.
07:24 PM on 01/08/2012
Cheney?
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jmac44
Motto: Sweep the HOUSE CLEAN 2014"
04:01 PM on 01/10/2012
Clarence Thomas & tea bag wife, ginny... They sit at the same Koch, Heritage Foundation, white cloth table event, where they can freely and gleefully bash Obama Cares.... with friends....
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joebaggadonuts
Civilization: Evolutionary pathway of choice.
06:22 PM on 01/08/2012
I would bet that Thomas calls professor Yoo at Berkley when he want's ethics advice on whether or not he should recuse hisself. Yoo will recall is the guy who wrote Bush's torture is legal memo. So that should be OK with Breyer too? Should it matter that Yoo clerked for Thomas?

Frankly, they are the Supremes, because they are the last arbiter of law and Constitution, so we really can only pray that they get it right, because there is no further appeal. It is so sad some of them leave a lasting impression of incompetence and bias.
07:22 PM on 01/08/2012
Up until relatively recently the judicial branch of our government was the only one that looked like it couldn't be bought & paid for... but since the mid-90's we've been hearing about judges at multiple levels being challenged by moneyed-interests (read the Chamber of Commerce) in an effort to game the system with partisan politics (read Karl Rove) on behalf of corporate America (read the 1%), and now we have Citizens United, which makes the loyalties of the current Supreme Court all too clear. At this point it looks like prayer is the only option for about 99% of us because as the money continues to pour in (and it will), any existing impartiality will be drained out... decision by decision...
09:44 PM on 01/08/2012
Thomas might indeed call the certifiable John Yoo to see if he should recuse himself. On the other hand, it's just as likely he'd consult the Magic 8-Ball and keep shaking it until it gives him the answer he likes: "My sources say no."
06:01 PM on 01/08/2012
It's worth remembering that Thomas demonstrated a guilty conscience about this conflict by trying to get away with not disclosing his wife's affiliations after previously disclosing. Tantamount to confessing to the conflict of interest.
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HawaiiShira
He that knows & knows he knows is wise.
05:30 PM on 01/08/2012
Isn't it a shame that a Supreme Court Justice has to consult with an ethics professor for advice, rather than consulting the conscience of his soul?
reallybarb
War on women, finally women fighting back
06:22 PM on 01/08/2012
No it's not a shame the easiest person to lie to is yourself
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Steelsil
Warren/Grayson 2016! Yes We Can!
01:58 AM on 01/09/2012
Since Republicans have neither, what do you suggest for them? Trick question, they don't care about ethics.