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Larry Summers: It's 'Right To Wonder' Why We're Rolling Back Safety Nets

Larry Summers

First Posted: 01/09/12 03:40 PM ET Updated: 01/09/12 04:41 PM ET


By Lawrence Summers

CAMBRIDGE, Mass., Jan 8 (Reuters) - Americans have traditionally been the most enthusiastic champions of capitalism. Yet a recent American public opinion survey found that just 50 percent of people had a positive opinion of capitalism while 40 percent did not. The disillusionment was particularly marked among young people 18-29, African Americans and Hispanics, those with incomes under $30,000 and self-described Democrats.

Three elections in a row in the U.S. have been bloodbaths by recent standards for incumbents, with the left side doing well in 2006 and 2008 and the right winning comprehensively in 2010. With the rise of the Tea Party on the right, and the Occupy movement on the left, this suggests far more is up for grabs than usual in this election year.

So how justified is disillusionment with market capitalism? This depends on the answer to two critical questions. Do today's problems inhere in today's form of market capitalism or are they subject to more direct solution? Are there imaginable better alternatives?

The spread of stagnation and abnormal unemployment from Japan to the rest of the industrialized world does raise doubts about capitalism's efficacy as a promoter of employment and rising living standards for a broad middle class. This problem is genuine. Few would confidently bet that the U.S. or Europe will see a return to full employment as previously defined within the next five years. The economies of both are likely to be constrained by demand for a long time.

But does this reflect an inherent flaw in capitalism or, as Keynes suggested, a ``magneto'' problem (like the failure of a car alternator) that can be addressed with proper fiscal and monetary policies, and which will not benefit from large scale structural measures? I believe the evidence overwhelmingly supports the latter. Efforts to reform capitalism are more likely to divert from the steps needed to promote demand than to contribute to putting people back to work. I suspect that if and when macroeconomic policies are appropriately adjusted, much of the contemporary concern will fade away.

That said, sharp increases in unemployment beyond the business cycle - one in six American men between 25 and 54 are likely to be out of work even after the U.S. economy recovers - along with dramatic rises in the share of income going to the top 1 and even the top .01 percent of the population and declining social mobility do raise serious questions about the fairness of capitalism. The problem is real and profound and seems very unlikely to correct itself untended. Unlike cyclical concerns there is no obvious solution at hand. Indeed the observation that even Chinese manufacturing employment appears well below the level of 15 years ago suggests that the problem's roots lie deep with the evolution of technology.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/us/harder-for-americans-to-rise-from-lower-rungs.html?_r=1)

The agricultural economy gave way to the industrial economy because progress enabled demands for food to be met by only a small fraction of the population, freeing large numbers of people to work outside agriculture. The same process is underway today with respect to manufacturing and a substantial range of services reducing employment prospects for most citizens. At the same time, just as in the early days of the industrial era, the combination of substantial dislocations and greater ability to produce at scale is enabling a lucky few to acquire great fortunes.

The nature of the transformation is highlighted by the 50-fold change in the relative price of a television set of a constant quality and a day in a hospital over the last generation. While it is often observed that wages for median workers have stagnated, this obscures an important aspect of what is occurring. Measured via items such as appliances or clothing or telephone service where productivity growth has been rapid, wages have actually risen rapidly over the last generation. The problem is that they have stagnated or fallen measured relative to the price of housing, health care, food and energy or education. As fewer and fewer people are needed to meet the population's demand for goods like appliances and clothing, it is natural that more and more people work in producing goods like health care and education where outcomes are manifestly unsatisfactory. Indeed as the economist Michael Spence has documented, a process of this kind is underway; essentially all employment growth in the U.S. over the last generation has come in non-traded goods.

The difficulty is that in many of these areas the traditional case for market capitalism is weaker. It is surely not an accident that in almost every society the production of health care and education is much more involved with the public sector than the production of manufactured goods. There is an imperative to move workers from activities like producing steel to activities like taking care of the aged. At the same time there is the imperative of shrinking or least slowing the growth of the public sector.

This brings us to the charge that the governments of industrial market capitalist societies are bankrupt. Even as market outcomes seem increasingly unsatisfactory, budget pressures have constrained the ability of the public sector to respond. How and when - and not whether - basic programs of social protection will be cut back, is now back on the table. The basic solvency of too many capitalist states seems in question.

Again the problems are very real. While I believe more than most that the U.S. government will be able to borrow on very attractive terms for a long time, if as I fear private borrowing remains depressed, there is no denying that the current path of planned spending and planned revenue collection are inconsistent. And Europe is teaching us that markets can take significant fiscal problems and make them catastrophic by becoming too alarmed too rapidly.

At one level the answer here is simply to insist on more political will and courage. But at a deeper level, citizens of the industrial world who believe that they live in progressive societies are right to wonder why increasingly affluent societies need to roll back levels of social protection. Paradoxically, the answer lies in the very success of capitalism which has made the opportunity-cost of an individual teaching or nursing or administering that much more expensive.

When outcomes are unsatisfactory, as they surely are at present, there is always a debate between those who believe that the current course needs to pursued with increased vigor and those who argue for a radical change in direction. That debate is somewhat beside the point in the case of market capitalism. Where it has been applied it has been an enormous success. The challenge for the next generation is that while that success will increasingly be taken for granted and indeed will become an increasing source of frustration in these pinched times, its success cannot be matched outside the market's natural domain. It is not so much the most capitalist parts of the contemporary economy but the least - those concerned with health, education and social protection - that are in most need of reinvention.

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06:01 PM on 01/13/2012
cannot believe anyone would listen to Larry Summers given how deeply he is in the pocket of large financials and government.. he seems to have contributed largely to the financial crises and failed to see it coming .. typical Keynesian "spending to growth" wealth mumbo jumbo .. he should let Ron Paul re-educate him ..
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peacekitten
primum non nocere.
02:37 PM on 01/13/2012
and of course, there is no longer any need for unions in the workplace, because the benevolent corporations will always be loving, kind and compassionate.

some people will buy ANY load of bs, no matter how high the price.

unbelievable.
04:06 PM on 01/11/2012
THE WEALTHY ARE LIKE ROMAN SENATORS OF THE EMPIRE

Scandinavian countries are the most prosperous in the world and they have heavy safety nets.
The rich there are happy to own a few houses and cars but don't need power to influence world affairs.

Like Roman senators, wealthy Americans are drunk with the power of their money and keep attacking government because it it they who want to run the world show.

One has to look into Freudian, Adlerian and Jungian motives to understand this crazy desire for power that comes from huge money.

The role of government is laso to reign in human folly, within a system of checks and balances.

The likes of Gingrich and possibly Romney don't understand that.
11:51 AM on 01/11/2012
Does Washington have a spending problem or an income problem?

How about some facts?

http://fac­tcheck.org­/2011/07/f­iscal-fact­check/

“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulne­ss while telling carefully constructe­d lies, to hold simultaneo­usly two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradict­ory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy …” – George Orwell, 1984

(http://en.­wikipedia.­org/wiki/D­oublethink)
kellygreen
"Ideology is the Science of Idiots" John Adams
01:44 PM on 01/11/2012
Yes, how the Republican establishment plays politics is pretty Orwellian. I just call it the "Reality Is Whatever I Say It Is" game. They do it, becuase they base is so poorly informed, so irrational and so gullible...that they get away with it.

But at the end of the day we are embroiled in a national conflict that is rational...and will not be amenable to facts.

We are in a struggle over values...and people seldom change those in response to contrary facts.

The GOP is being led by a coalition of the super-rich whose goal it is to repeal the New Deal and all of its works...thus remove any constraints upon their economic power....

....and angry working-class whites who have been led to believe that repealing the New Deal and the Great Society will allow them to rollback the opening of society that took place in the 1960s, and is "threatening" the dominance of whites in American culture.

Both factions are prepared to trash American Democracy in order to impose their will upon the nation. Like Lucifer in Paradise Lost, they would rather rule over a broken nation, than share power in a healthy one.
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No right way to do a wrong thing
11:47 AM on 01/11/2012
"Summers, along with Robert Rubin, pushed for the repeal of Glass Steagall, and supported the Commodity Futures Modernization Act; If memory serves, he was also around during the LTCM bailout.

If the history books eventually judge the Obama administration a failure, they may have to point to one horrific appointment as the root cause of the misguided policies:"

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/04/summers/
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MarkVA71
Arlington, Virginia
11:42 AM on 01/11/2012
I don't know how anyone can be enthusiastic about a system based on selfishness and greed. To make money and gain material wealth one must take it from his brother. Rolling back the safety nets is the ultimate in selfishness and greed.
nothingchanges
too soon old, too late smart
10:27 AM on 01/11/2012
Personally I don't "wonder" about it at all............

The need to "balance the budget" only became a crisis AFTER the Republicans got their extensions of the Bush Tax cuts that benefit primarily the wealthiest of our people.

SOMEBODY has to pay, to make up for that lack of income.

In the US, its those that are too politically weak to fight back.

It's the American way.........................................not very flattering is it?
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joebaggadonuts
Civilization: Evolutionary pathway of choice.
02:33 PM on 01/13/2012
The additional perspective you just provided is welcome. Summers is a tool. It's way past time to have removed him and those who follow his lead.
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Carl Caroli
Give peace a chance
09:45 AM on 01/11/2012
Just go away Larry. You've already done more than enough damage to this country.
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cyclone70
if there was a time to reach for the pitchfork
06:50 AM on 01/11/2012
Larry is pushing the same old peeple are better off because they have cheaper appliances canard again

except those cheaper appliances don't last as long as the old one they replaced and they are not made in the US anymore employing US workers and adding a multiplier effect

the reason we have austerity now (except for corp welfare and military spencing) is because Larry and his buddies tilted the playing field toward wall street and outsourced our jobs
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Skeetshooter
Artist, writer, provocateur
02:25 AM on 01/11/2012
Rarely have I read such smug self satisfied drivel from a supposedly brilliant mind in support of the dysfunctional status quo. Summers really has his head planted firmly up his own posterior.
BigDaddyWow
This member is licensed to spank
12:53 AM on 01/11/2012
Larry, go back in your hole. You have done enough damage.
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DenverBigDaddy
Conservative does not equal Tea Party....
10:22 PM on 01/10/2012
We haven't sniffed austerity yet......what the h*ll is he even talking about?
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raphaelbonee
The snake was right "the gods lie"
09:37 PM on 01/10/2012
"It's 'Right To Wonder' Why We're Enforcing Austerity"

You're enforcing austerity because you're locked in an ideology that has failed and the only way out is to take more away from the little guys.
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rikster
buy the ticket-take the ride
08:24 PM on 01/10/2012
he's clueless..he should become the commissioner of baseball...
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WorldisMorphing
Jaded Iconoclast ...
07:54 PM on 01/10/2012
The first problem is with the T h e o r y of economic rent Larry... You should have picked it up by now...
The second is with the unsustainability of perpetual growth, and this, NOT EVEN ONLY from an ecological point. Historically when growth stagnated the ONLY way to circumvent the problem was through INNOVATION. Unfortunately, if you extend network-like growth patterns which the construct we inhabit is a form of , to infinity, the innovation requirements get to a point where you'd have to create an internet-kind revolution EVERY year to keep up the engine rolling.
Needless to say it gets worse when you consider that growth has ALWAYS meant an increased consumption of non renewable resources...on a finite planet-- also in the unsustainable category.

But don't take my word for it. Take it from a Theoretical physicist of very right wing republican views--socially but whose scientific knowledge brings to a very disconcerting left wing socialist conclusion.
Very interesting video on Growth, Innovation, and the Accelerating Pace of Life from Cells to Cities and Corporations::
http://fora.tv/2011/10/25/Growth_Innovation_and_the_Accelerating_Pace_of_Life#fullprogram
08:02 PM on 01/10/2012
I have said for a long time that prices can only go so high. I mean we don't need $100 hamburgers.

They plan to get rich off of those overseas. They may not. The people over there have had good programs and they don't trust our country.
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WorldisMorphing
Jaded Iconoclast ...
08:33 PM on 01/10/2012
["I have said for a long time that prices can only go so high. I mean we don't need $100 hamburgers­."]

Agreed... and even if there was such a thing, the world would not be a better place for it.
I think we have reached the end of innocence. It's time to grow up now...
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donk970
Hard working member of the 99%
01:45 PM on 01/11/2012
All systems must reach steady state at some point. The wealthy make their money on economic instability (not steady state) which can be profited from in the stock market. The rest of us are wage earners who actually work for a living and would do just fine in a steady state economy. The wealthy will continue to manipulate the economy to ensure that it remains unstable so that they can continue to accumulate wealth and power.
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WorldisMorphing
Jaded Iconoclast ...
05:58 PM on 01/11/2012
...it starts with land rent.
[ "As soon as the land of any country has all become private property, the landlords, like all other men, love to reap where they never sowed, and demand a rent even for its natural produce. The wood of the forest, the grass of the field, and all the natural fruits of the earth, which, when land was in common, cost the labourer only the trouble of gathering them, come, even to him, to have an additional price fixed upon them. He must then pay for the licence to gather them; and must give up to the landlord a portion of what his labour either collects or produces. This portion, or, what comes to the same thing, the price of this portion, constitutes the rent of land ...."]
— Adam Smith: The Wealth of Nations[15]
...in the case of housing, greed and speculation magnify market forces and create the situation where two income can barely afford a house. The same follows for apartment building. For the same reason, a lot of what is built is of prodigiously mediocre quality. Mediocre buildings, for mediocre cities, creating mediocre citizens, in a decadent mediocre society...