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New Hampshire Republicans Might Send An Anti-War Message (Sort Of) On Tuesday

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First Posted: 01/09/2012 1:33 pm Updated: 01/09/2012 2:45 pm

BEDFORD, N.H. -- With little notice or fanfare, New Hampshire Republicans are preparing to make a bolder statement Tuesday than merely voting for presidential candidates. If Monday's trends continue, the voters could send the loudest GOP-based anti-war message in decades, or at least since the Vietnam War era.

Two anti-war candidates are now poised to do well, perhaps very well.

With the deep-pocketed Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) running at a consistent 20 percent in the polls, and with former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman slowly but surely rising in popularity in the closing days, it is now possible that their combined total will exceed that of the still-solid frontrunner in the race, Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts.

Romney, eager to strengthen his conservative credentials, has taken a particularly tough line on Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran, aligning himself with the most hawkish elements on the right wing of his own party.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) have done the same. Texas Gov. Rick Perry -- following the lead of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who has endorsed Romney -- even suggested that the U.S. might soon need to send combat troops back into Iraq.

On his own, the ultra-Libertarian Paul and his anti-war stance can still be dismissed, or at least discounted, by the GOP establishment as a fringe, crank candidate, no matter how well-financed he is, and no matter how much support he claims from active military soldiers.

But as Huntsman rises into double digits, and his message resonates more in the "Live Free or Die" state, the GOP is going to have to consider not only that there is a true anti-war wing in its party, but also that the party is deeply vulnerable in 2012 if it sticks to the neocon line established by President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney after the 9/11 attacks and the U.S. response in the Middle East.

"Even the Republicans are turning against the war here," said Democrat Annie McLane Kuster, who is running for the 2nd Congressional District seat here against incumbent Republican Rep. Charlie Bass. Running as an anti-war candidate in 2010, Kuster lost to Bass by one percentage point in what was a disastrous year for Democrats.

Kuster reported having raised more than $1 million in her last quarterly report and claims 11,000 donors, and says that 90 percent of her cash has come from individuals, compared with 10 percent for Bass. Based in large part on her anti-war message, she is rated as having an excellent chance to beat Bass this time; Democratic officials in Washington have designated Kuster's race as a top priority in this year's cycle.

It's important to remain cautious about New Hampshire results: as many as one-third of the voters on Tuesday could be self-described "undeclared," meaning that they are not officially members of the Republican Party. But those tend to be right-leaning moderates who lean toward identifying with the GOP in broad terms.

"If they nominate a pro-war candidate they are going to be vulnerable in this state, and that is what this vote could show on Tuesday," said Kuster, whose long family lineage in politics includes Republicans in earlier generations.

One top Republican -- and Romney supporter -- agreed with that assessment, although he spoke on a not-for-attribution basis to avoid undercutting his candidate. "The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan especially aren't popular here, and we have to be careful. And all the saber-rattling about Iran won't help."

But for the Democrats to take advantage of the issue in New Hampshire in the fall, Kuster said, President Obama has to follow through on his promises to continue drawing down troops in Afghanistan, and fight for his $1 trillion cut in the defense budget over 10 years.

"Especially at a time when the Republicans are talking about cutting Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, they simply can't simultaneously argue for more war and military spending," Kuster said. "It won't work here."

"For the first time in a long time -- and this began with Sen. John Kerry -- I think the Democrats have been able to argue that it is possible now to be pro-military AND pro-peace at the same time," she said. "We haven't been able to do that since Vietnam. President Obama has tried hard to make that point, and I think he is succeeding."

Whether Obama is making that point or not remains to be seen. In the meantime, look at the bottom line Tuesday night to see not only who won but also whether the "pro-peace" message really has a place in the Republican Party.

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BEDFORD, N.H. -- With little notice or fanfare, New Hampshire Republicans are preparing to make a bolder statement Tuesday than merely voting for presidential candidates. If Monday's trends continue, ...
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08:22 AM on 01/10/2012
"Live Free or Die"?

We fought the Viet Nam war to stop the spread of Communism. 58,220 US soldiers lost their lives along with hundreds of thousands of people in the region. We lost that war. Did Communism spread? No.

But the Viet Nam war convinced taxpayers to spend enormous amounts of money. And that money did not get blown up. It went into someone's pocket.

40 years later, it's the same script. Create some unnecessary war, spend money you don't have, and get wealthy beyond what most people can comprehend.

How is our ability to "Live Free" threatened by Iraq?
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kathy smelser
08:02 AM on 01/10/2012
so you are telling us that in IOWA they wanted the WARS but now in New H. they do not ....so next week the war will be back on or off...... maybe .......i think at this point even the candidates are getting MORE confused they change their minds faster than changing channels with a remote ..i think for all our sanity it is time to lose the remote
ScaredAcademic
The GOP: Peddling Hate Since '68
03:43 AM on 01/11/2012
Evangelicals love war. I'm not entirely sure why.
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Seymourhiney
02:29 AM on 01/10/2012
If we have another war, every child of an elected politician must immediately be sent to the front lines.
07:29 PM on 01/10/2012
And all congress shall have their medical insurance restricted to cover only services at VA Hospitals, the rest will come out of their own pockets.
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karim banned
A fool's mind is at the mercy of his tongue and a
02:07 AM on 01/10/2012
I am surprised how hard Liberal work to undermine the only real anti-war candidate in 2012,

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Liberty and Peace.
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gonealreb
Our Constitution is just fine, thanks anyway.
11:40 PM on 01/09/2012
If they think that another War would solve our economic issues, as the Republicans are prone to think; I'd like to remind them that the last two wars have run our VISA to it's credit limit and didn't fix the economic thingie. Three stikes would be an out.
11:35 PM on 01/09/2012
I am amazed at the naivete of those who believe we don't need government regulation.

They frame it as either the state has rights or the individual has rights. But in fact the govt can and does act as a partnership for all citizens to have leverage against those with more money and influence. It is remarkably naive to believe that industry won't choose to pollute if is legal to do so because it externalizes costs. Food and drug safety cost money and they would be set aside.

Folks who believe Paul will assert that one can sue those who would impinge on one's rights in such a way. However, how does one know what is toxic through long-term exposure, how much food is contaminated, or the unexpected side effects or lack of efficacy for medications without federal agencies to conduct the science. There is no real opportunity to litigate in those circumstances as an individual. Banding together is only natural and anything else, so far, has been ineffective.
Zip Zinzel
If a Nation expects to be both Ignorant & Free . .
01:07 AM on 01/10/2012
Thanks apogee for helping to keep them honest.
It is so hard to believe that this kind of nonsense gets traction with more than just a fringe element of our society
08:26 PM on 01/09/2012
All I'm interested in for NH is:
-Romney's final results. The expectations for his victory have risen so high that if he doesn't win by 10% of more the media will spin it as another "75% of the GOP Base want someone else"
-Will Huntsman get third place or higher, and in double digits?
-I don't think NH voters will care about the war message from Ron Paul all that much. They seem to be more concern about social issues, especially since their state legislature is now full of crazies like Rick Santorum. No wonder the former senator is dropping like a rock in water in NH.
And just like with Iowa, hardly a mention about the economy and jobs in NH.
08:15 PM on 01/09/2012
ron paul 2012
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PublicCitizen21044
The truth will set you free!
07:21 PM on 01/09/2012
Considering that Romney has 5 sons who NEVER served this Country they love so much I hope that he is planning on sending them in the lead to fight in Iran and all or any of the other warriors can send their sons and daughters as well. Newt is a lover and a draft dodger and Perry could not lead a dog on a leash due to his lack of command of the English language and lack of good judgement or common sense(for he may be shrewd but he is not that bright intellectually) and Santorum would alienate the Commanders to the point that they would probably quit in frustration. Ron Paul and Huntsman will not be waging war for profit if elected per their own words. What is with the GOP and fear based politics with a conflicting side show of religious faith thrown in for measure? I hope NH sends the anti-war message loud and clear and I hope the GOP POTUS contenders and their corporate sponsors get the message.
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knott wrench
11:25 PM on 01/09/2012
Word is, Willard was in France on a Deferment during the Vietnam War. Just like Newton and Dick Cheney.
ScaredAcademic
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03:48 AM on 01/11/2012
But Willard was "courageously" defending the US/French war in Indochina while on his Mormon mission. Of course, he was safely in France on his Mormon mission (at a time when "Negroes" [those carrying the dark mark of Cain] were prohibited from the clergy in the LDS, a policy unchanged until 1978).
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
06:21 PM on 01/09/2012
I'm surprised they aren't ramping up their hate speech against Iran, and saying we need to stay in Iraq for the next 200 years.
06:17 PM on 01/09/2012
MILITARY SUPPORTS RON PAUL. He has more campaign contributions (from ACTIVE DUTY Military & VETERANS) than all other candidates and Obama COMBINED!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!

On President’­s Day, February 20th, a march is being organized by Veterans for Ron Paul 2012, co-founded by Adam Kokesh, Iraq war veteran (Marines).
In a press release, Adam Kokesh announced that the march will progress from the Washington Monument to the White House, where those taking part will salute a “folded American flag... for as many seconds as troops have died under the Presidency of Barrack Obama.
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
10:27 PM on 01/09/2012
That is until they get home, and he disbands the military, closes all the VA hospitals and bases.
10:54 PM on 01/09/2012
SAY WHAT??!?!?? You have been WAY misinformed about Ron Paul then!!!! Looks like the political establishments are doing a good job misleading people through their media.

Paul on Veterans Issues:
-Reforming the VA to make sure that it efficiently provides affordable care and benefits to our veterans.
-Giving employers a tax credit for hiring veterans.
-Narrowing the pay gap that exists between military and private sector pay scales.
-Restoring health care coverage to retired service members and reducing their out-of-pocket costs.
-Establishing a House Select Committee on POW and MIA Affairs.
-Fully investigating the causes of Gulf War illnesses and providing all necessary treatments to veterans suffering from those illnesses.
-Immediately ending the requirement that disabled veterans give up their military retirement pay in order to receive VA disability benefits.
10:55 PM on 01/09/2012
Paul has said "America cannot remain strong if our servicemen and women have reason to doubt that our nation will not honor the promises it made to them when they enlisted."

He is a veteran himself, and understands their needs.
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gonealreb
Our Constitution is just fine, thanks anyway.
11:55 PM on 01/09/2012
Isn't that sweet...at the end I assume you will acknowledge that these were Bush's wars we were committed to.

Signed: VN Vet
12:28 AM on 01/10/2012
And Obama continued them and even put us in more wars!
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Lahonda
Bynocent Instander
05:50 PM on 01/09/2012
GOP = Grand Offensive Party

Stop the wars!
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Tejascc
So Blue in a Red State
05:42 PM on 01/09/2012
Romney, eager to strengthen his conservative credentials, has taken a particularly tough line on Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran, aligning himself with the most hawkish elements on the right wing of his own party.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) have done the same. Texas Gov. Rick Perry -- following the lead of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who has endorsed Romney -- even suggested that the U.S. might soon need to send combat troops back into Iraq.

Revelations 6:4 Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword.

Who will be given the sword. Romney, Gingrich, Santorum or Perry.
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amaboss52
Jesus died for your sins...get your moneys worth!
05:36 PM on 01/09/2012
So repubs finally woke up? Better late than never my grandma used to say!
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DianneinCA
running forward, laughing...
04:44 PM on 01/09/2012
Republicans are starting (too late) to realize the American people are tried of their endless wars. Where have they been? So busy listening to their fringe base they missed what the majority has been saying. This is what happens when you are encased in an echo chamber. Too little, too late, Republicans.