Raymond Chandler Hated Alfred Hitchcock: Letter Reveals A Battle Of Wits


First Posted: 01/10/12 05:09 PM ET Updated: 01/11/12 03:45 AM ET

The always-fascinating blog Letters of Note has another gem up today -- a letter that deepens the battle of wits between two old greats, Raymond Chandler And Alfred Hitchcock.

"The Big Sleep" author and film noir influencer was hired to work on the screenplay for Hitchcock's 1951 thriller, "Strangers on a Train," a favorite here at HuffPost Culture. The story goes that Chandler had no patience for the script conferences ("god-awful jabber sessions," according to Chandler) Hitchcock called for, which cramped his style. Chandler didn't agree with the director's approach, which he claimed prioritized aesthetic appeal over character development -- Hitchcock envisioned a fantasy narrative, and Chandler demanded narrative logic. Relations continued to deteriorate between the two, and matters weren't helped when Chandler called Hitchcock a "fat bastard." Eventually, Hitchcock dismissed Chandler from the project, and while he's still credited, the script was largely re-written by Czenzi Ormonde.

All this is just backstory, because this letter from Chandler has enough zings directed at Hitchcock's "skim milk" script to give you the basic idea -- the conventions of film noir can only go so far in guiding a film's vision when two stubborn visionaries are involved. Read an excerpt from Chandler's letter here, and click over to Letters of Note for the full document:

What I cannot understand is your permitting a script which after all had some life and vitality to be reduced to such a flabby mass of cliches, a group of faceless characters, and the kind of dialogue every screen writer is taught not to write—the kind that says everything twice and leaves nothing to be implied by the actor or the camera. Of course you must have had your reasons but, to use a phrase once coined by Max Beerbohm, it would take a "far less brilliant mind than mine" to guess what they were.

Regardless of whether or not my name appears on the screen among the credits, I'm not afraid that anybody will think I wrote this stuff. They'll know damn well I didn't. I shouldn't have minded in the least if you had produced a better script—believe me. I shouldn't. But if you wanted something written in skim milk, why on earth did you bother to come to me in the first place?

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The always-fascinating blog Letters of Note has another gem up today -- a letter that deepens the battle of wits between two old greats, Raymond Chandler And Alfred Hitchcock. "The Big Sleep" autho...
The always-fascinating blog Letters of Note has another gem up today -- a letter that deepens the battle of wits between two old greats, Raymond Chandler And Alfred Hitchcock. "The Big Sleep" autho...
The always-fascinating blog Letters of Note has another gem up today -- a letter that deepens the battle of wits between two old greats, Raymond Chandler And Alfred Hitchcock. "The Big Sleep" autho...
The always-fascinating blog Letters of Note has another gem up today -- a letter that deepens the battle of wits between two old greats, Raymond Chandler And Alfred Hitchcock. "The Big Sleep" autho...
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10:31 PM on 03/05/2012
Shocker. Novelist brought into collaborative medium doesn't like the process, thinks he's right and lashes out with all the glibness at his disposal at the person with the temerity to change his perfect words.
04:26 PM on 01/15/2012
If Herge were still alive I'm sure he'd be writing similar sentiments to Spielberg about what he's done to Tintin.
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mburgh
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06:42 PM on 01/13/2012
Both artists are excellent at their works. Chandler wrote searing dialog and complex, damaged characters. Hitchcock let the camera do the talking. The Big Sleep and Vertigo stand as the two best works by these people, both baroque interrogations into self-delusions of the human mind. It's no wonder that Chandler and Hitchcock came to loggerheads.
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RedDogBear
01:30 PM on 01/15/2012
I agree. It was really inevitable that they would. For one thing as much as I love Chandler's fiction he wasn't easy to work with as a screen writer. For another they both had their own vision of what a work should be and neither was capable of compromise.
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Dan Slander
07:15 AM on 01/12/2012
Hitchcock knew film, Chandler writing. Hitchcock lives on in the spotlight, Chandler much less. The final arbitor however is the film. Strangers on a Train still wows them today, not many people are reading Chandler. Hitch decisions Chandler, probably unanimous.
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Alex Krislov
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10:33 AM on 01/13/2012
"Not many people are reading Chandler?" Do you know how rare it is for a writer to never drop out of print for fifty years? Rent a clue.
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10:58 AM on 01/15/2012
Far be it for me to speak for Dan, but I'll venture he was referencing the comaprison between the two. I'll bet most of those on-the-street rubes that Leno mocks have heard of Hitchcock over Chandler. That said, Dan's comparison was not relevant to the argument.
11:29 AM on 01/13/2012
Actually, I'd never heard of Strangers On A Train before this, but I've read a lot of Raymond Chandler.
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Bruce Forbes
Marx was right.
10:34 PM on 01/14/2012
Me too.
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RedDogBear
01:32 PM on 01/15/2012
I like Strangers on a Train but no movie ever comes close to a great Chandler novel.
06:32 PM on 01/11/2012
In the comments below, themightyabealrd noted in part, "That very letter appears in a 30 year old book." The blog Letters of Note did cite (albeit incompletely) The Raymond Chandler Papers: Selected Letters and Nonfiction 1909-1956. Eds. Tom Hiney and Frank MacShane. London: Hamilton Hamish, 2000. The letter's not exactly news.... :-/

That "always-fascinating blog" Letters of Note did leave out some things of some importance, though:

One is that the blog only took an excerpt of the letter from The Raymond Chandler Papers, while failing to include a bracketed ellipsis to indicate the cut (and further, that book itself only had an excerpt of the entire letter, though it isn't quite clearly marked as such even there). The entire letter can be found in an earlier book by one of the same editors, the one themightyabealrd mentioned, which leads to a second thing that might have been worth noting:

"This letter was never sent"
Selected Letters of Raymond Chandler. Ed. Frank MacShane, New York, NY: Columbia University Press, 1981. 243 n. 1.

In the comments below, FalstaffsMind had written in part, "You wonder if Hitchcock got the message." You've got your answer!
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naschkatze
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12:36 PM on 01/11/2012
Strangers on a Train is one of my favorite Hitchcock movies. No matter how many times I have watched, I get the old unbearable tensions as the film moves toward its end. Chandler and Hitchcock did a great job adapting Patricia Highsmith's book to film in spite of their differences. And may I make a plug for Robert Walker's acting?
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grovestand12
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12:34 PM on 01/11/2012
oh my goodness, the sheer "genius" enveloping the room while they worked together....i find this fascinating!
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mlowe0286
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11:59 AM on 01/11/2012
Could it possibly be that Chandler was used to writing alone w/o input from others. While movie making is a group/consensus activity? And both men had HUGE egos & needed to be "right". Which says nothing at all about their respective abilities or our enjoyment of them.
jhNY
Mercy.
12:48 PM on 01/11/2012
Chandler worked on other movie projects previously, including movies developed from his own novels, so I'm not sure that's the crux of their disagreement. Hitchcock's control over everything and everybody involved in his pictures is legendary. Chandler might have been more or less right to complain about Hitchcock's seeking him out as a writer if what he wanted wasn't Chandleresque.
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Alex Krislov
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03:12 PM on 01/13/2012
For that matter, Chandler was twice nominated for the Oscar for screen-writing. Granted, his books represent his work better, but certainly the man knew the medium for which he was writing.
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RedDogBear
01:37 PM on 01/15/2012
I agree with miowe. Chandler hated the process of screen writing. Its clear from reading any biography and reading his letters. For example, the story he liked to tell about essentially needing to be drunk out of his mind to finish a particular screen play.
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frant52
11:43 AM on 01/11/2012
Wouldn't it have been wonderful to have been a fly on the wall during those sessions? Two such fascinating people working at odds during a brilliant time of movie making!
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RedDogBear
01:39 PM on 01/15/2012
Fly on the wall would be fun but I would rather be a drunk on the next bar stool when Chandler broke to start drinking (probably around 2pm).
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npw350
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10:50 AM on 01/11/2012
A war of wits is always a battle of egos.
10:13 AM on 01/11/2012
everyone's being so pretentious here. i love it.
09:58 AM on 01/11/2012
Who cares what a disgruntled ol hired has been has to say about an ex boss. Hitchcock was the man.
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FalstaffsMind
"This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." - Pauli
08:42 AM on 01/11/2012
You wonder if Hitchcock got the message. Right after that you have a string of Hitchcock masterpieces like Rear Window and later Vertigo and North by Northwest etc... that tend to tell stories through camera work, character development and action as opposed to explicit dialog.
07:17 PM on 01/14/2012
BEFORE "Strangers on a Train," Hitchcock did "Rebecca," "The 39 Steps," "Notorious," "Saboteur," "Sabotage," "Shadow of a Doubt," "Rope," "Foreign Correspondent," and "The Lady Vanishes."  I don't believe that Mr. Hitchcock could have learned anything from Chandler that he didn't already know.
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07:25 AM on 01/11/2012
Movies are a visual medium. Authors of books build mental images through words. They are not always incompatible media, but they are not necessarily compatible. It's that simple.

For instance, when a character in a novel is confronted with a difficult situation, the novelist can take us through the internal thought processes of that character. The actor in a movie has to convey those thought processes with a look or a gesture, without two pages back story. It's easy to see why a novelist would insist on character development and a motion picture director would depend on the reactive skills of actors.
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Rich Cash
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06:42 AM on 01/11/2012
Chandler was unparalleled in his skill at composing a prose poem in mystery, much as Stephen King can bring back memories of childhood, especially those of summer days spent playing baseball with boyhood friends you were destined to remember for the rest of your life, but whom you never talked with after that one magical summer. King has the talent to convert memories like that which we all share into eerie, otherworldly shivers as that summer folds into a chilly fall and frozen winter.
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npw350
There is no time or distance.
10:51 AM on 01/11/2012
Stephen King: Great story teller, terrible writer.
10:57 PM on 01/11/2012
I agree....never thought of it like that...but it's true...though lately he has improved as a writer while perhaps his stories suffer