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Young Veterans Without Jobs: Too Many Are Locked Out Of 'Recovery'

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Posted: 01/10/2012 5:30 pm

Young military veterans saw little to celebrate in last week's much cheered unemployment report. Data released the same day by the Department of Labor revealed that one in three young veterans was out of a job in the last quarter of 2011 -- an employment picture even worse than a year earlier, when one in five couldn't find work.

This rate is more double that of their civilian peers; the unemployment rate for all Americans age 18-24 actually decreased over the same time period.

"I definitely think it's getting worse out there," said Daniel Hutchison, 29, who started a one-man transition assistance group, Ohio Combat Veterans, last May. "Part of that has to do with the economy across the board. The unemployment rate is still high, and with veterans, it's even more complicated."

Veterans don't always know how to translate their skills in the battlefield for employers back home. And while they look for work, they're often battling post-traumatic stress disorder, which can be compounded, Hutchison said, by not finding a job.

"Veterans will sell themselves short. On their résumés, they'll just say, 'I was field artillery in Iraq for 16 months.'" Hutchison continued. "So I'll say, 'But you have leadership skills. How much training did you do? How many people did you manage?' These are all attributes that these veterans have, but they can't really see it."

After five years in the U.S. Army, Hutchison returned home in 2007 expecting to pick up his previous construction job or something like it in the industry. But when he came back from Iraq, the housing bubble had popped.

"In today's economy you can't give away a house, so I was taking pretty much any little thing I could get," he recalled. He had worked as a medic in the Army and thought that offered employment skills, but he didn't hold any civilian certifications.

Hutchison now runs Ohio Combat Veterans by himself, with some donations and his own Army benefits. Since last May, he's helped about 100 veterans -- and they've helped him, too. "Just running this program was real therapeutic for me," he said.

While organizations like Hutchison's can be critical for catching veterans who have slipped through the cracks, some who focus on unemployment issues and veterans think the problem goes beyond PTSD and the difficulty of translating military skills for civilian employers.

Ted Daywalt, who runs VetJobs.com in Georgia, observes that most young unemployed veterans are part of the National Guard or the Reserves, and employers hesitate to hire them not because of weak résumés, but because of the increase in Pentagon calls for Reserve and Guard members to return to service. A new policy on call-ups implemented in 2007, combined with a law that requires companies to restore reservists to their jobs after they come home, means that employers are more reluctant than ever to hire veterans.

"An employer cannot run their business if their most critical asset, human capital, is being taken away for 12 to 24 months," Daywalt said.

Some 180,000 people visit VetJobs.com every month, and they receive dozens of calls a day, Daywalt said. The most common plea, he continued, comes from a veteran in the Reserves or Guard who has just been called up and then suddenly finds himself laid off, with his employer blaming the pressures of the weak economy. According to Daywalt, who is a Vietnam-era veteran and a reservist for 21 years, some 65 to 70 percent of employers won't hire from the National Guard or the Reserves, even though this type of discrimination is illegal.

"Employers would prefer to hire someone out of the military, but they're called up so frequently, no one wants to hire them," he said. "As a reservist, I get real upset. But when I put on my CEO hat, I totally understand why they're doing it."

Daywalt has testified before Congress multiple times on the subject and is firm on this point: Veterans who are not part of the Reserves or the National Guard typically find work, he said. But unless there is a change in the call-up policy, he expects unemployment for young veterans to keep rising.

"In 2007 in a hearing at Congress, I said the unemployment rate is going to go up to 20 percent, and people scoffed," Daywalt recalled. "This year you're going to see it go up to 50 or more percent."

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Young military veterans saw little to celebrate in last week's much cheered unemployment report. Data released the same day by the Department of Labor revealed that one in three young veterans was out...
Young military veterans saw little to celebrate in last week's much cheered unemployment report. Data released the same day by the Department of Labor revealed that one in three young veterans was out...
 
 
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spytheweb 09:30 PM on 01/26/2012
"Veterans don't always know how to translate their skills in the battlefield for employers"

When these young men go into the military they are told after service they can get a job, often times they are lied to. I was told i could get a civilian related job. My job was servicing ejection seats on fighters and bombers. Yeah i could get a job, but it would have to be on a depot  Read More...
04:40 PM on 06/27/2012
WOW, This sure isnt what I wanted my son "sign-up" for... I anticipated a brighter future with no student loans, better medical insurance and the opportunity to see the world and in the end he could get a good job and provide for himself and his family.... WOW What are we doing to our future???
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09:30 PM on 01/26/2012
"Veterans don't always know how to translate their skills in the battlefield for employers"

When these young men go into the military they are told after service they can get a job, often times they are lied to. I was told i could get a civilian related job. My job was servicing ejection seats on fighters and bombers. Yeah i could get a job, but it would have to be on a depot base.

My son is in Afghanistan now (USAF), he works in hospital diagnostics. His recruiter got him a job working A/C maintenance even thou he had high scores, i knew it was a nowhere job, i worked on the flightline for 20 years. His father inlaw knew some people at Randolph (he was ex-USAF medical) and got him hooked up with his medical job. My son hits the 4 year mark in Sept and if he leaves the Force he should end up with a nice job. He still has 2 1/2 years to go, he may stay in. The way things are if he stays 20 years, at least he'll have a retirement check.
07:37 AM on 01/18/2012
While I'm no longer "young" at 53, I had my own issues with finding a job as I turned 50. Now I work for the federal government. I also wrote a book: The Coffee Break Guide for Veterans Seeking Federal Employment that can be found on Amazon as an eBook. In there, I captured my lessons learned as a way to help other veterans.
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Rich Cash
Enlisted in 1971 - Retired in 1996
08:40 AM on 01/18/2012
Really? I'm 58 and have been downsized twice since I retired in '96. I once applied for a position as a Patient Advocate with the VA. The job consisted of making sure the patients found their way from Radiology to the Laboratory or any other assigned destination. 2 years as a hospital orderly, 2 years pre-med, 3 years of Nursing school, 14 years as a Navy Corpsman, and a BS in Health Care Management, and I was told I didn't qualify for the job due to lack of experience. I've been out of work since July 2010 and have only 5 weeks of unemployment left. Next month, I'm going to lose my home, my family will be on the street, and my son will have to drop out of his senior year in college. Every potential employer starts with the statement "Thank you for your service!" but I never get a job offer.
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Black Democrat
09:45 PM on 01/26/2012
Rich Cash, ever think about driving a truck? I drove for Swift. They take you on and train you. You get paid while you learn. I loved driving but can't now because of BP. It's something while you're waiting for what you want.
04:01 PM on 01/12/2012
One of the best fields for veterans today is in the sustainability field. It is very common for veterans to transition to a green job after service and there is a clear reason why this is occurring. The skills obtained in the military fundamentally assist in the transition to green sector jobs involving manufacturing or maintenance of solar panels or wind turbines. If you'd like to find out more information on why veterans need green jobs, please visit http://greenjobsguide.us/2012/01/why-veterans-need-green-jobs/.
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Robert Frano
‘Plausible Deniability’: NOT A FAMILY_VALUE!!
09:38 AM on 01/12/2012
As previously noted, I 'am' because I was ‘downsized’ from the late 1 W.T.C., (an unacknowledged murder-victim in its own right), 6 weeks before an outpouring of superficial-piety one fine September morning…

Post-piety-outbreak, I experienced that 'look' one receives when a 20-something-interviewer rejects you, pre-conversation, because you threaten their 'never-grow-old' fantasy…

Post Sept.11th., ‘my’ government, (I didn’t vote for ‘em), ‘discovered’ Iraq was littered with ‘off-brand’ Minuteman-3’s...& lost piles-o’-tax-money removing ‘em from 'launch-on-warning' status...NOT!

I’ve got mixed feelings 'bout 'returning' vets...
Having been on numerous urban-shoot-outs, I know about ‘pucker’ factor; but…I’ll never approve of this manufactured ‘pillage’: It's NOT a war until congress declares it!

Wehrmacht soldiers obviously had different culpability from Hitler.
Just as Gen. Westmorland, from (then) Col. C.Powell-&-Lt. Calley during Vietnam's pillage.

NO American should wait even 30-seconds for F/t employment, because, (apart from moral-obligations), there’s so much infrastructure that is a collapse-threat re tomorrow’s morning-rush, (citing 1 obvious-example)!
There's NO ‘legitimate’ reason for America’s ongoing econo-depression…

My vote for (the republican), O’Bama, (neither democrat, nor particularly ‘democratic’), is based on my ‘cowardly’ desire to postpone the on-coming rush to thermonuclear-war, (which we’ll see sooner with republican administrations), as long as possible!
Did I say ‘coward’? You Betcha!

Prolifers just love their petty-conflicts (and the billion-$$-slush-funds generated…), don’t they?
01:20 AM on 01/12/2012
People who enlist are only postponing the inevitable if they do not stay in the military: get a job in whatever existing economy.
10:52 PM on 01/11/2012
Next time pick a profession that doesn't involve murdering people. Just a thought.
06:51 PM on 01/17/2012
Are you saying our military volunteers are signing up for murdering people?
11:24 AM on 01/20/2012
I'm in the military and have yet to "murder" anyone. In fact I volunteered at vets in the middle east, and helped with the special olympic on my base. What have you done laltey?
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shewolf2002
EDUCATION is a national security issue.
08:02 PM on 01/11/2012
Sadly, the real cost of our overseas adventures will become painfully apparent soon. The soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan were just the tip of the iceberg; the injured, the maimed, those suffering from PTSD, and the jobless will cost America dearly. And not just in dollars.
But hey, Halliburton, Blackwater and some other firms made billions, so it was all worth it. Right?
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OldCowboy
Against stupidity the Gods contend in vain.
06:24 PM on 01/11/2012
This is a sad commentary on the state of affairs in America today. These young people are good enough to fight and die for us, but they're not good enough to hire once their service is over.
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Robert Frano
‘Plausible Deniability’: NOT A FAMILY_VALUE!!
09:43 AM on 01/12/2012
Re: "...These young people are good enough to fight and die for us, etc..." {Old Cowboy}

I am NOT a greedy corporation, nor a defense-contracting-fraudster-group; So...What-you-mean 'US' kemosabe?
We're in Mesopotamia for the same reason we were in Vietnam: It makes $$$ for a pitifult few!
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ThinkTwiceWriteOnce
Jarndyce v. Jarndyce
12:45 PM on 01/11/2012
I didn't raise my boy to be a soldier,
I brought him up to be my pride and joy.
Who dares to place a musket on his shoulder,
To shoot some other mother's darling boy?
Let nations arbitrate their future troubles,
It's time to lay the sword and gun away.
There'd be no war today,
If mothers all would say,
"I didn't raise my boy to be a soldier."
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OBkinobe
Courage often gets credit, cold feet should get.
01:44 PM on 01/11/2012
ThinkTwice---As an ex-soldier, I was heartened and deeply moved by those compelling and thought-provoking words of wisdom. "Let nations arbitrate their future troubles" is a particular sentiment espouse by many including our current President, myself included. Did you compose that yourself and if not who is the author? I'd be interested to read more such writings from this individual.
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Jarndyce v. Jarndyce
02:37 PM on 01/11/2012
Actually a song from the peace movement during WWI.....not sure who the author is, but the first line is the title......
04:17 AM on 01/12/2012
One of the hit songs of 1915, “I Didn’t Raise My Boy to Be a Soldier,” by lyricist Alfred Bryan and composer Al Piantadosi
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/4942/
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Robert Frano
‘Plausible Deniability’: NOT A FAMILY_VALUE!!
09:49 AM on 01/12/2012
Re: "I didn't raise my boy to be a soldier, etc..." {ThinkTwiceWriteOnce}

This accidental WTC-survivor agrees, 'LIKE, TOTALLY, as 'they' say in 'Val-speak'!!
It is neither 'patriotic', nor a 'service' to any Deity/Deities to be engaged in the current money-generator in Mesopotamia!

Meanwhile, the soon-to-be-out-of-the-farce, er, ah, race (to the bottom?), Mr. Santorum, along with many of his pious pro-life-cohorts, has already openly diescuused his plans to embroil the U.S. (and humanity) in Iran, as the next chapter of the mony-maker!

I'm sure Jesus, (and or Wotan/Thor, in my theology), are on-his-side...
NOT!!!
12:04 PM on 01/11/2012
they should have stayed in the military. as a CC, when I would have young troops standing tall before me at decision time, I would always ask what do you have going on on the outside. Some had definite plans, most didn't. part of my duties was being a retention officer, and I always wanted to have the best force possible. you can stay, retire relatively young, collect a lifetime pension (I haven't heard of any homeless military retirees). I would sum it up like this -- its your future...but the best of you will be forgotten in 5 minutes.
12:47 PM on 01/11/2012
A brief look at VetJobs.com will give you some insight into why things are particularly difficult for vets 18 - 24. Most of the jobs listed--as is the case with jobs listed on any other job board--require a college degree, or years of field-specific experience. Vets aged 18 - 24 generally have neither. "Staying in" is not an option for everybody. (And, to be frank, I'd rather not have guys stay in because they want a paycheck.) So service-members who transition out of the military should immediately start getting the education/training they'll need to be competitive in the private sector.

I'm a vet (Marines), and I'm part of a Bay Area tech startup that's addressing the problems vets face as they transition out of the military. Our company is called Fidelis Education. At www.Fidel.is, we're assisting veterans in their transition from service-member to professional. We do this by giving them the education (courses are taught by top-ranked partner colleges), coaching, and mentor network they'll need to succeed in today's highly competitive economy.

Here's a link that will give you some more info on our program for 18 - 24 year-old vets: http://www.fideliseducation.com/programs/2-plus-2-plus
04:50 PM on 01/11/2012
good work!
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OBkinobe
Courage often gets credit, cold feet should get.
02:08 PM on 01/11/2012
With all due respect Sir, I would agree with you to a point, but with a caveat and that is: if you are fortunate enough to survive the experience. Not every Soldier, Sailor, or Airman as you well know, have the luxury, or good fortune to have a relatively safe, sanitized, conflict-free environment in which to serve as I have had. As I've shared several times here on HP since I've been a member: my time served with the 7th USAREUR ( acronym for: US ARMY EUROPE) as a Med. Corpsman was both an intriguing and memorable experience in the Bavarian City of Ludwigsburg, W. Germany--my home base at the time--near the Swiss border. I could not have asked for a better MOS and venue in which to perform my TDY not to mention having met many wonderful ppl, both German as well as fellow Americans.
11:43 AM on 01/11/2012
Its sad that the people who give up their lives to save ours can't come back to find a job to save their own.
12:05 PM on 01/11/2012
if they had given up their lives, they would be coming back to look for work.
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Ashok Hegde
01:53 PM on 01/11/2012
They didn't give up their lives to save ours. Don't buy into that mythology. They enlisted in the armed forces because they likely had few options, as their school records sucked. They were likely C students, or worse, and the military was the best way to move forward (they thought).

Now that they're back from a horrible war, which was probably illegal (iraq), do we really expect anything different? Do we think the market all of a sudden has a need for undereducated people with little experience, and a likely depression due to war?
06:58 PM on 01/17/2012
What criteria are you using to assert our military enlistees are undereducated with few options? I'm a recently retired Air Force Colonel with 32 years service and the quality of our current crop of new enlistees is just the opposite. They are among the best our nation has to offer. So in short, your assumptions seem to be from those of a C student who has few options than to make misassumptions of the credentials of those who proudly serve this nation. Colonel Dennis W. Greene, Retired
01:55 PM on 02/07/2012
To begin with, I was a Corporal in the Marines. More specifically; the infantry. I love it when individuals such as yourself proclaim to have the telepathic ability to read the motivations of others. What you are doing, however, is called "projecting". You simply assume that the rest of the world is as narcissistic as yourself. You can not comprehend words like honor, courage or commitment. You are a fool. My point man, a fellow enlisted Marine, had a four year degree in Electrical Engineering from an Ivy League college. I am currently in school pursuing an English degree. We both served because we love our Constitution. You have no concept of how to properly use commas, your vocabulary is unoriginal and Iraq is Capitalized.
You just got shown up by a tattooed, white-trash Grunt. Haze yourself.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
10:25 AM on 01/11/2012
US citizens should elect politicians that will work towards RE-INDUSTRIALIZATION of the USA because that will create a bigger economic pie, CREATE MORE JOBS for US citizens, and create more NATIONAL WEALTH in the USA that could be CONFISCATED by the governments at various levels as taxation to pay for our ever increasing government expenses such as more infrastructure, more teachers, more firefighters, and maybe to also PAY OFF SOME OR ALL OF THE US NATIONAL DEBT that we are expecting our children to repay to the bondholders.

RE-INDUSTRIALIZATION of the USA and Europe would create an increasing economic pie (GDP) instead of consuming a larger and larger piece of the existing ever shrinking economic pie, and selling or mortgaging our existing NATIONAL WEALTH (borrowing money with privately held assets as collateral) to pay for more and more federal government expenditures that only consumes the existing NATIONAL WEALTH that was created by previous generations of US citizens before de-industrialization!

I want someone to start a new political party to save the US government by creating conditions that economically require or allow the re-industrialization of the USA to create new wealth. New wealth needs to be created so that this new wealth will be available to be taxed in order for governments at each level can have increased revenues sufficient to pay for their increasing expenses, and also to maybe pay off some of the existing US National Sovereign debt.
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Ashok Hegde
01:54 PM on 01/11/2012
US consumers don't want this. They don't want to pay more of their income on consumer goods, so that people in michigan can have middle class jobs. We want chinese imports.
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Carl Caroli
I just don't understand people
09:49 AM on 01/11/2012
The GOP isn't interested in employing them, it would rather redeploy them to their next war of choice.
11:42 AM on 01/11/2012
Your right! There should be no war in the first place!
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Ashok Hegde
01:55 PM on 01/11/2012
We should just push to cut the military budget in half...and make sure prosecuting a war is much tougher in the future.
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beardown
08:30 AM on 01/11/2012
No jobs at home and with Obama cutting the Military less opportunity to stay in!
12:06 PM on 01/11/2012
there is always an opportunity for a good troop.