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James O'Keefe Voter Fraud Sting Video Could Draw Legal Backlash, Experts Say

James Okeefe Voter Fraud

First Posted: 01/11/12 06:56 PM ET Updated: 01/11/12 07:05 PM ET

Conservative filmmaker James O'Keefe targets the alleged threat of voter fraud in his latest offering, a 10-minute video that features attempts by his cohort to demonstrate how easy it is to vote as a deceased person in this week's New Hampshire primary.

The undercover video by his group, Project Veritas, shows O'Keefe and his associate Spencer Meads visiting various polling stations around the Granite State, inquiring about getting ballots and giving the names of recently deceased voters. Because New Hampshire doesn't require voters to show identification, the poll workers appear prepared to oblige their requests.

In their efforts however, some experts say they have violated election laws at both the federal and state level that explicitly prohibit such attempts to acquire ballots for voters other than themselves. Legal scholars recently told Talking Points Memo that their actions could lead to some repercussions.

From TPM:

Hamline University law professor David Schultz told TPM that there's "no doubt" that O'Keefe's accomplices violated the law.

"In either case, if they were intentionally going in and trying to fraudulently obtain a ballot, they violated the law," Schultz said. "So right off the bat, what they did violated the law."

Election law expert Rick Hasen, who writes the Election Law Blog, joked in an email to TPM that O'Keefe's team should "next show how easy it is to rob a bank with a plastic gun."

While O'Keefe told the Daily Caller that "There's no misrepresentation in these videos if you watch them -- we didn't lie about who we were," Think Progress points out that this claim doesn't hold up during various exchanges documented in the video. O'Keefe admits that his partner was forced to flee a polling station after giving a volunteer a name that she recognized as belonging to a dead person. The incident was reported by the Boston Herald. Think Progress also notes that O'Keefe and his associates may have broken a New Hampshire law that requires both parties to consent to being recorded.

A federal prosecutor in the New Hampshire U.S. Attorney’s Office has since told TPM that he is reviewing the content of the video.

Apart from the potential legal fallout, however, many have been quick to point out that O'Keefe falls woefully short in his attempt to expose what he described to the Daily Caller as an electoral system "severely comprised" by a lack of voter ID laws.

"It means nothing," Samuel Issacharoff, a professor of constitutional law at New York University Law School, told TPM. "Why would anybody want to do this? It proves that they don't update their dead voter information as quickly as they might, but so what? To pull this off on a large scale, you'd need coordination, and presumably somebody would have heard about it."

According to a 2007 report by the Brennan Center for Justice, allegations of voter fraud of the type O'Keefe is seeking to highlight are often over-hyped and easily sensationalized, while actual instances are "more rare than death by lightning."

The Huffington Post's Trymaine Lee reported Tuesday on complications mounting from previous threats by New Hampshire's legislature to pass voter ID laws. While Gov. John Lynch (D) had rejected such bills, some experts worried that false and misleading reports would discourage some voters from going to the polls.

Watch the video from Project Veritas:

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Conservative filmmaker James O'Keefe targets the alleged threat of voter fraud in his latest offering, a 10-minute video that features attempts by his cohort to demonstrate how easy it is to vote as a...
Conservative filmmaker James O'Keefe targets the alleged threat of voter fraud in his latest offering, a 10-minute video that features attempts by his cohort to demonstrate how easy it is to vote as a...
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redsongia 01:24 AM on 01/13/2012
This guy pretty much proved that anyone trying to commit a significant amount of voter fraud in states that don't require ID is bound to get caught after, say, 12 tries. I live in Boston and last time I went to vote, my neighbor was in line right next to me. Even with fake ID, you are not likely to get very far stuffing ballot boxes with this method. Forgive me if I don't get out my tissues to cry for this  Read More...
sgtscottm2
Partisan blindness is a disease
05:28 PM on 04/09/2012
i love it! Keep blowing it off lefties
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hswanson2
Could you work if farmers didn't
05:55 PM on 01/15/2012
Sitting here reading the comment from the right I have just one thing to say - why would anyone commit voter fraud this way. Wouldn't it be way cheaper and easier to do it by absentee ballot. It would be insanely expensive to do this in any way that would make even a small impact on an election. Ok you have to identify the dead voter and then figure out where their polling place is and then spend your gas to get there. Never mind that you can only cast one ballot per polling place you go to. It makes no sense. With an absentee ballot you order one it is mailed to you. The voter ID laws do nothing to combat the voter fraud that is most likely to happen but then again that is not the point really. The other fact of the matter is the majority of absentee ballots are cast for Republicans. So maybe there is a fraud problem but Democrats are the ones that don't care about voter fraud right.
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ljimlong
To promote the general Welfare-Constitution
09:33 PM on 01/13/2012
Notice all of the deceased died in Dec. 2011. Interesting.
09:38 PM on 01/15/2012
Notice that it was a republican primary that was being voted upon, too?
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Just My Thoughts 2011
Life's but a walking shadow
01:18 PM on 01/13/2012
Why aren't ALL parties concerned about how easy it is for voter fraud to happen?

It should concern all .

Is it just because this video wasn't made by the great Michael Moore?
01:37 AM on 01/15/2012
No, it's because voter fraud isn't really a problem in America. I have deeper concerns about the Electoral College system thwarting will of the voters than the lack of ID requirements in New Hampshire.
06:14 AM on 01/15/2012
Here in Texas, there have been NO known cases of voter impersonation fraud, but the new Republican led ID law has left 665,000 registered voters with no photo ID, mostly elderly, poor, people of color, homeless, and college students -- all more likely Democratic voters. A photo ID card from the University of Texas - a state institution - is not accepted as voter ID, but a gun permit IS.
10:58 AM on 01/13/2012
He did not commit fraud. If you people actually watched his video, none of those involved took the ballots.They walked away saying they were going to get their ID's..."that" was their out. They did not even claim to be the "dead voters". They replied, "That is the name". They never once said me, my ,I,etc. Sorry, but these guys did their legal homework before this project. As far as letting "real" journalists do their jobs...you mean the ones who no longer do investigative reporting? The ones who uncovered the ACORN fraud? Oh wait, that was also O'Keefe.The ones who are mouthpieces for the liberal agenda? Yeah, right. I am interested in seeing if my comment is "approved" by the Huff powers that be.lol
12:28 PM on 01/13/2012
You do realize your name is an oxymoron, right?
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Just My Thoughts 2011
Life's but a walking shadow
01:20 PM on 01/13/2012
Way to add to the discussion, modmom.

Brilliant.
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Sam-I-Am
Alive in the age of worry.
12:37 PM on 01/13/2012
Maybe you need to go to law school. Making the attempt to get the ballot under a name other than one's own completed the crime. And modmom's right-your username is an oxymoron.
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Just My Thoughts 2011
Life's but a walking shadow
01:19 PM on 01/13/2012
So does it concern you at all at how easy the crime was to commit?
09:49 AM on 01/13/2012
It would be splendid if this little pimple was lanced into oblivion.
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F4U Corsair
redpurpleblue.com
08:05 AM on 01/13/2012
Conservative filmmaker James O'Keefe, an American hero.
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Wurkenstiff
Accept me for who I am and it won't be empty!
08:19 AM on 01/13/2012
I don't know about hero but it takes some measure of guts to go in and prove how easily something like this can happen.
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Sam-I-Am
Alive in the age of worry.
12:38 PM on 01/13/2012
Hero? More like American partison d*bag.
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F4U Corsair
redpurpleblue.com
12:55 PM on 01/13/2012
No O'Keefe is filling the shoes of the great Michael Moore. He is shining light on what many don't want you to see. Abuse, corruption, and ninnyism.

Bravo O'Keefe. Hopefully a movie soon?
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Sisa
07:15 AM on 01/13/2012
I hope this little goblin does some hard time for this felony.
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Sam-I-Am
Alive in the age of worry.
12:39 PM on 01/13/2012
That's good. "Gobblin" describes activity he'll most likely be engaging in while in lockup.
06:50 AM on 01/13/2012
Hey O'Keefe....I hear there are a whole bunch of people peacefully demonstrating for democracy in Syria and they are being shot down in the street...men, women and children. And only two guys have been in power for 45 years and they win every election.

Can you go over and get us some video of these crimes ?
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mirrorwrlds
A world with infinite possibilities.
03:47 AM on 01/13/2012
They should leave investigative reporting to professionals. It would be a nice sequel to see a video from them on showing how to stay a virgin while in jail for attempted voter fraud.
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redpurpleblue.com
08:01 AM on 01/13/2012
Yeah like..............Michael Moore?
Isn't he a "liberal hero"?

The hypocrisy.
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mirrorwrlds
A world with infinite possibilities.
08:39 PM on 01/13/2012
Moore does not break a federal law to prove his thesis.
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Hermes Mercury
04:34 PM on 01/23/2012
You are wrong to think that Michael Moore is a "hero" to liberals, and even more wrong to think that what he has produced, let's say on junk food in the US, or.. let's see, American Health care -- or even 9/11 (where one of my friends from youth, Michael Canty, died) is comparative to the drivel that O'Keefe creates.

1. Moore actually has sources other than fraudulent co-conspirators.
2. You can check Moore's facts and not come up against things like fraud at all.
3. Moore produces feature length documentaries that pay for themselves.
4. Moore truly loves America, you may not like it anymore than I like that, o, let's say John Birch loved America - but the fact is he does whether you like it or not, just as Birch did whether I like it or not.

This guy? I think the jury is out. I don't think he loves America at all, I think he loves an image that he thinks America should be and isn't - and those are very different things.
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Just My Thoughts 2011
Life's but a walking shadow
01:14 PM on 01/13/2012
So what James brought out into the light, that voter fraud is so easy, doesn't concern you?
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mirrorwrlds
A world with infinite possibilities.
08:37 PM on 01/13/2012
He had to run out of a precinct or get arrested is not proof of widespread voter fraud. Go into a bank with a plastic gun to show how easy it is to rob a bank and see if you can excuse the action because you were doing investigative reporting.
08:25 PM on 01/17/2012
It doesn't concern you that this imagined bogeyman of voter fraud which doesn't actually happen in real life is now resulting in the passage of voter ID laws that are, in actual real life, disenfranchising actual real living voters without the required ID? Doesn't it concern you that attention is being paid to this non-existent issue of voter fraud while corporations are outright buying election results by pouring money into SuperPACs? Doesn't it concern you that the voter ID law in Texas is skewed so that a Democrat-likely student with an ID can't vote but a Republican-likely gun-owner can easily vote with their gun permit? Does any of that concern you? Of course not...
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DMSmith
03:42 AM on 01/13/2012
Jail them. It's about time.
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Josh Crawford
Just the facts, man!
02:42 AM on 01/13/2012
More people die from lightning in a year than actually do what this douchnoozle and his partner tried to do! He is trying to cause a problem where none exists in order to be able to say "Hey, look at this giant problem." THAT'S how desperate these clowns are to justify their "voter ID" and other disenfranchising laws! This guy should go to jail for the maximum allowed under state and/or federal law. If this had been a federal election they would have been looking at FIVE YEARS (plus huge fines) for EACH AND EVERY time they went up to a pollster and fraudulently requested a ballot they were not entitled to.
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Wurkenstiff
Accept me for who I am and it won't be empty!
08:00 AM on 01/13/2012
Why do people need an ID to buy a beer but not to vote? Why is it discriminatory to require ID for some things but not others?

I will never understand the liberal bias against ID requirements to vote. It is beyond all reason.
10:49 AM on 01/13/2012
It's really not, but I'm assuming you won't listen to my explanation and so won't bother giving you one.
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Josh Crawford
Just the facts, man!
02:37 PM on 01/13/2012
And I will never understand why people like you are willing to disenfranchise LITERALLY MILLIONS of voters in order to prevent a problem that basically DOES NOT EXIST!!!!!!
Read this report and get a clue (though I'm sure you won't cuz Lord forbid that you actually have the slightest idea of what you're actually talking about....)
http://www­.truthabou­tfraud.org­/pdf/Truth­AboutVoter­Fraud.pdf
12:36 PM on 02/03/2012
Voter fraud is not a red herring, it is very real. The old joke about voting "early and frequently" in Chicago wasn't funny because it wasn't true.... Asking voters to show credentials is the *least* that should be done to deter fraud. If someone needs ID to buy beer and cigarettes, they absolutely can show ID to vote. States have bent over backwards to provide IDs to the so-called "disenfranchised" voters, so stop with the excuse making.
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Josh Crawford
Just the facts, man!
04:56 PM on 02/03/2012
What a lie! What is your source for your claim that “Voter fraud is not a red herring, it is very real"? The old joke about Chicago voting is just that: a JOKE.

Here is what a "source" looks like. You should try it sometime....
http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/TruthAboutVoterFraud.pdf
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redsongia
is not Chicago
01:28 AM on 01/13/2012
That old lady should have pepper sprayed him, hit him with a baton and claimed it was a citizen's arrest.
03:43 PM on 01/14/2012
You mean the same batons that the Black Panthers used to keep people from voting? Funny, they were never prosecuted, but I will bet on it that O'Keefe is. Blatant racism from the Obama Justice Dept.
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Hermes Mercury
05:01 PM on 01/23/2012
By which you refer to Phlly. Where there was ONE baton, not batons - and where police drove away the perpetrator who was not a certified poll watcher and where no victim ever filed a complaint?

I think the NBPP was absolutely wrong, but then again, that is hardly surprising, they are an SPLC certified hate group, and I've never seen any organization so denoted by the SPLC that was worth spit, not one. They are very good and accurate at what they do.

I also think that there should have been citizens come forward to bring accusations, so that the case could go forward.

As it is, its a tempest in a teapot. It reminds me of neighbors of ours years ago -- a straight couple -- they got in a fight and she took a knife to him. He wouldn't file charges because he was embarrassed. Guess what happened? That's right, NOTHING.

If someone threatened me at a polling place, believe me, I'd be filling, if people in Philly weren't willing to, then I doubt that anything that mattered happened before the police took care of it.
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redsongia
is not Chicago
01:24 AM on 01/13/2012
This guy pretty much proved that anyone trying to commit a significant amount of voter fraud in states that don't require ID is bound to get caught after, say, 12 tries. I live in Boston and last time I went to vote, my neighbor was in line right next to me. Even with fake ID, you are not likely to get very far stuffing ballot boxes with this method. Forgive me if I don't get out my tissues to cry for this idiot and the way he wastes his day thinking up ways to go to jail.
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Wurkenstiff
Accept me for who I am and it won't be empty!
07:57 AM on 01/13/2012
Wow so your neighbor was in line next to you. How about in my Massachusetts town where my wife's name was listed at mulitple addresses where she never lived? Why was that? Do you think mistakes like that are a rarity?

So you are happy with 11 out of 12 potentially illegal votes going through? That's a disturbingly apathetic view of voter fraud.
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08:00 AM on 01/13/2012
Let's turn your argument and say that you won't get very far with pedophilia. Soon you will get caught. Would you put up with law breaking on the first rape if you knew a simple solution or just brush it off?

What is with you people on asking people in asking for the same ID check as other common reasons? Do Democrats need to win by voter fraud?
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Mr Universe
Shiny, let's be bad guys
04:30 PM on 01/16/2012
No but Republicans, who can't win an election in a fair fight, cheat by introducing unnecessary voter ID laws, gerrymandering districting laws to favour their candidates, making voter registration harder by eliminating same-day registration, and writing laws stripping unions from collective bargaining.

Republicans are going to be voted into the dark ages for a long time after what they did in 2010-2011. Shame!
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johnblack53
Destroying conservative talking points one post at
12:58 AM on 01/13/2012
These people should realize that wants you lie to the registers giving them the name of a dead person and they give them the ballot they have committed voter fraud the minute it changes hands. . End of story.
06:52 AM on 01/13/2012
Don't you know the Republican motto ?

The end justifies the means.
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Wurkenstiff
Accept me for who I am and it won't be empty!
08:17 AM on 01/13/2012
Voter Fraud: The Sequel
Picking up where YOUR story ends, when this is so easy to do in little rural NH just imagine how easy it would be to do in big urban areas.
I know you live in Lala Land where our public servants and municiple watchdogs eagerly pursue justice for all, but here in Massachusetts we have had the last 4 State Speakers indicted on felonies, state reps jailed after being caught stuffing cash in their bras for liquor licenses, city councilors jailed for bribes.

It's only half as bad as a place like Chicago!

Liberals take a NO WAY stance on this when it is really just common sense to take rudimentary precautions to prevent the possibility.

Being good "across the aisle" liberals, surely you could thrown such a benign, meaningless bone to your political adversaries simply to appease them and quiet the accusations, right?
Wouldn't it be worth it to enact a simple ID requirement for something so important?

After all, it isn't considered an undue burden on minorities, elderly or handicapped people to require an ID to buy booze as well as so many other things.
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johnblack53
Destroying conservative talking points one post at
02:36 PM on 01/13/2012
Voter IDs can't e faked just like everything else. And how often has anything like this occured? According to the Secretary of State in New Hampshire only once in the state's history. These people are making up things that don't even exist in order to get their talking points across. So if there is anybody living in la la land it is you.