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Class Conflict Awareness Rose Significantly From 2009 To 2011: Report

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 01/11/12 05:24 PM ET Updated: 01/11/12 05:24 PM ET

Significantly more Americans see "very strong" or "strong" class conflict between the rich and poor, according to a survey released Wednesday by the Pew Research Center. The results show that Americans think that conflicts between the rich and poor are stronger than immigrant and native born, black and white and young and old.

In 2009, 47 percent of respondents said there were "very strong" or "strong" conflicts between the rich and poor. In 2011, 66 percent saw the same, possibly signaling that the "We are the 99 percent" rhetoric of Occupy Wall Street has had an impact. The ongoing economic recession also may have magnified class differences as income inequality has risen, continuing a trend occurring in American society since at least the 1970s.

Democrats in general -- and President Barack Obama in specific -- have also spoken out about income inequality. "Now, this kind of inequality -- a level that we haven't seen since the Great Depression -- hurts us all," Obama said in a December speech in Kansas. The GOP front-runner for the presidency, Mitt Romney, has in turn charged Obama with promulgating the "politics of envy" and said that discussions over the distribution of wealth were "fine" to talk about "in quiet rooms in discussions about tax policy."

Media mentions about income inequality have also risen significantly since the start of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

The Pew survey found that whites had significantly larger increases in perception of class conflict than blacks and hispanics, rising to 65 percent from 43 percent in 2009. Seventy-four percent of blacks and 61 percent of hispanics see class conflicts, increasing by single digits from 2009.

The perception of class conflict has also intensified -- 30 percent see "very strong conflicts," a figure that doubled from 2009. marking the largest increase since the question was first asked in 1987.

Other social conflicts were less intense. Thirty-eight percent of Americans saw "very strong" or "strong" conflicts between blacks and whites, virtually unchanged from 2009, and 62 percent saw "very strong" or "strong conflict" between immigrants and native born, up 7 percent from 2009. Thirty-four percent saw "very strong" or "strong" conflicts between young and old, up 11 percent from 2009.

Grievances, however, against the wealthy did not increase, with 46 percent saying that rich people "are wealthy mainly because they know the right people or were born into wealthy families," and 43 percent saying they are wealthy because "of their own hard work, ambition or education."

Young people -- suffering the highest levels of unemployment -- see class conflict significantly more than older people, with 71 percent of people aged 18 to 34 seeing "very strong" or "strong" class conflicts while just 55 percent of people over 65 see them.

Republicans see class conflict less than Democrats and independents. GOP leaders have dismissed calls to raise taxes on the wealthy, calling it "class warfare." Still, 55 percent of Republicans see "strong" or "very strong" class conflicts in comparison to 73 percent of Democrats and 68 percent of independents.

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iskra 12:33 PM on 01/12/2012
I can't help but think back to all the comments on OWS stories, so many people so angry at them for even bringing up the notion that the game is rigged. 

So many that claimed OWS was just whining and that they accomplished nothing. I disagree. 

I think that changing the conversation is an accomplishment, a big one. The GOP had it's campaign for 2012 mapped out nicely based on  Read More...
07:07 PM on 01/27/2012
Timtim17 . The "Fairtax" Act is not (merely) about making taxes "fair".(!) The idea is to abolish payroll Withholding and Income taxes (FederaL) altogether., as well as our High corporate taxes. Revenue neutral, the scheme is to fund the government the way it was before the 1913 Income tax, essentially by sales tax on new items only. It would avoid becoming regressive by an ingenious scheme. The beauty of it is, there would be no more "loopholes" at all. or tax lobbyists either.See Fairtax.org for the details.
RINOVirus
George Carlin was right all along.
01:38 PM on 08/21/2012
The "Fairtax" is nothing more than another right wing scam to get the rich out of paying taxes. No Estate Tax so the super rich can become even more entrenched. No Capital Gains Tax so Romney pays even less in tax. It will take away the few remaining incentives to keep manufacturing jobs here. It's just another scam to transfer the tax base to the working class. Like Leona Helmsley said "Only the little people pay taxes.". Romney and his friends the Kochs believe it.
ColoradoPete
End of term coming.......
01:59 PM on 01/15/2012
Gee, I wonder why Americans see more class conflict? Could it be that we have a disdainful president, who can't seem to lead our country without his class warfare arguments, that have been going on for two years now??
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rontheking
Legitimate ape here to deliver your gift from Dog.
01:14 AM on 01/16/2012
You must be joking...Obama didn't invent the Occupy movement...it's because many, many Americans have realized that the middle class is being extinguished from above...seriously, it's okay to turn off Faux news now....
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12:27 PM on 01/22/2012
maybe you should turn off msnbc and remember that america is supposed to be a classless society?
RINOVirus
George Carlin was right all along.
01:41 PM on 08/21/2012
Over the past 30 years the top 1% has seen their incomes increase by 400%. The average American has seen about 3%. Meanwhile everything else gets cut and deregulated so they can make more.
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liaisonsus
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02:11 AM on 01/14/2012
Who needs Mc Mansions, Hummers, huge yacht,closets filled with hundreds of clothes they hardly wear etc etc..
I could not live with myself to rake millions of dollars in bonuses while my employees cannot pay their mortgage.It has become insanity. I do not envy anyone because as long as I have a roof over my head and food and I am able to pay all my basic bills, I am happy.But it is inhuman to take away someone's home because their insurance refuses to pay the bills for a debilitating disease..What makes me insanely mad is to see the waste of our society, the food thrown, discarded while American citizens go to bed hungry..etc and this is a Christian Society?
Didn't Jesus say: If you want to follow me, you have to give away your wealth to poor people??
The very rich keep on mentioning the name of Jesus, but they would execute him immediately as a subversive, communist and traitor were he to come back to this God forsaken planet. By the way, I am an Atheist who was raised by so-called Catholic nuns who were racist bitches on wheels.
ColoradoPete
End of term coming.......
02:08 PM on 01/15/2012
You bring up many interesting points, many of which are not easy to resolve. Not sure how old you are, but when I look back at my 60+ years, I have trouble understanding how we got here!! While quite conservative in my beliefs, I agree with you about the "waste" in our society which we see all around us. And I understand your point about American hunger, and can't understand why we donate billions of dollars to Haiti because the media makes a big deal about hurricane damage there, but we donate little to the poor inner-city kids in some of our communities where they are suffering just as much. I guess it wouldn't make for good TV ratings to tell Americans about the poverty and hunger within our own borders.

At some point, I have resigned myself to the fact that we are all human, and humans have their flaws. There was poverty and hunger in Egyptian times, in Roman and Greek times, and on through our history. And which one of our societies, economic systems, political systems ever resolved any of it??Some have done better jobs than others, but none have really worked and stood the test of time...............thanks, have a nice day.
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liaisonsus
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01:43 AM on 01/14/2012
Most Republicans and some Democrats live in a comatose lala land!
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09:41 AM on 01/13/2012
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0929-04.htm
Rethinking Free Trade

"by Robert Kuttner

WHEN PAUL Samuelson, the dean of American economists­, begins questionin­g the benefits of free trade, it is a bit like the pope having doubts about the virgin birth. But Samuelson, a Nobel laureate and the author of America's best-known economics textbook, has reopened a debate on the most settled issue in economics. He's done it with a stunner of an article in the Journal of Economic Perspectiv­es that has created immense controvers­y -- and an opportunit­y for Americans to rethink previously unchalleng­ed assumption­s.

[snip]

But here Samuelson dissents. What if the lower-wage country also captures the advanced industry?

If enough higher-pay­ing jobs are lost by American workers to outsourcin­g, he calculates­, then the gain from the cheaper prices may not compensate for the loss in US purchasing power. In other words, the low wages at Wal-Mart do not necessaril­y make up for their bargain prices.

"Free trade is not always a win-win situation,­" Samuelson concludes. It is particular­ly a problem, he says, in a world where large countries with far lower wages, such as India and China, are increasing­ly able to make almost any product or offer almost any service performed in the United States.

If we trade freely with them, then the powerful drag of their far lower wages will begin dragging down our average wages..."
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tonnyb
11:31 AM on 01/13/2012
Seems like the wage part has been going on for a while now. Not necessarily down but stagnant.
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utahboni
Dare to know
04:27 PM on 01/13/2012
When you adjust for inflation in the cost of living, stagnant means down.
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06:02 PM on 01/13/2012
Workers' share of national income is at an all-time low:

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/PRS85006173
FRED« Nonfarm Business Sector: Labor Share

While corporate profits are increasing:

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CP
FRED« Corporate Profits After Tax

Mainly because of reduced wages and benefits:

"JPMorgan’s July 11 “Eye on the Market” newsletter put it, “Reductions in wages and benefits explain the majority of the net improvement in [profit] margins… US labor compensation is now at a 50-year low relative to both company sales and US GDP.”

The two-party corporate-­controlled duopoly just put three more job-killin­g NAFTA-styl­e trade agreements in place with Columbia, Panama, and South Korea.
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tonnyb
09:07 AM on 01/13/2012
DanInLA "Many govt. services are better provided by the private sector and cheaper too. "

tonnyb said "The private sector needs to raise its game if it is to live up to its promise of consistent­ly delivering better and cheaper services than its public equivalent­, FT analysis has shown.”

DanInLA “LOL...you don't like the computer the private sector sold you? What about your clothes or your car or the food you eat? You want government to provide those things for you? That's how they do it in Cuba. No income inequality over there either.”

You are practicing Sophism. You changed the subject. You said Private = better. I sad not so fast, that meme isn't true. You respond about computers, cars and food. Well I live in the USA and the government doesn't make computers, cars and food; I never said I wanted those things from government.
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Roelvdwegen
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05:20 AM on 01/13/2012
What Romney and a lot of Republicans are basically saying: "Fair wages? Healthcare? Food stamps? Those are just entitlements and free money!"
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12:34 PM on 01/22/2012
you earn fair wages by being competetive. (for higher wages produce a correspondingly larger amount)
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Roelvdwegen
Truth & Justice are Liberally biased
01:15 PM on 01/22/2012
You earn fair wages by doing your job, if you do your job your employer is morally obligated to pay you a fair wage.
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02:28 AM on 01/13/2012
http://ampedstatus.org/exclusive-analysis-of-financial-terrorism-in-america-over-1-million-deaths-annually-62-million-people-with-zero-net-worth-as-the-economic-elite-make-off-with-46-trillion/#rules
EXCLUSIVE: Analysis of Financial Terrorism in America: Over 1 Million Deaths Annually, 62 Million People With Zero Net Worth, As the Economic Elite Make Off With $46 Trillion | AmpedStatus

"...The fact of the matter is that the overwhelming majority of US population is unaware of the vast wealth at hand. An entire generation of unprecedented wealth creation has been concealed from 99% of the population for over 35 years. Having never personally experienced or known of this wealth, the average American cannot comprehend what is possible if even a fraction of it was used for the betterment of society as a whole.

In fact, given modern technology and wealth, not a single American citizen should live in poverty. The statistics clearly demonstrate that we now live in a Neo-Feudal society. In comparison to the wealthiest one-tenth of one percent of the population, who are sitting on top of tens of trillions of dollars in wealth, we are modern day serfs, essentially propagandized peasants.

The fact that the overwhelming majority of Americans are struggling to get by, while tens of trillions of dollars are consolidated within a small fraction of the population, is a crime against humanity..."
09:39 AM on 01/13/2012
Thank you for the Morgan-Stanley article. Yes, there are some people in the financial services industry who are beginning to wake up! Residential mortgage lending, consumer credit cards and auto loans, which deceive the ignorant public with compounded interest, are what have led the middle class into financial serfdom, while concentrating wealth in the hands of a decreasing minority. I blame the lack of financial education for this; with kids subjected to hours and hours of classes on the mechanics of human reproduction when they never hear even one lesson on CAVEAT EMPTOR.
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10:33 AM on 01/13/2012
Stephen Roach seems to understand that the financial services industry can make more money with a middle class than without it.

He's called for a consumer debt jubilee:

http://www.businessinsider.com/stephen-roach-says-consumers-need-debt-jubilee-2011-8
Stephen Roach Says Consumers Need Debt Jubilee

"The over-indebted American consumer will be hard pressed to simultaneo­usly reduce debt and maintain levels of consumptio­n that support economic growth. On CNBC today, Stephen Roach of Morgan Stanley says, we need “ways to forgive the excesses of mortgage, installmen­t and revolving credit, as what was done in the 1930s, that will help consumers get through the pain of deleveragi­ng sooner rather than later....”
01:07 AM on 01/14/2012
Old Tulsan, I've been saying things like this for a long time (in fact, that we never have had anything BUT the feudal system), though not with your erudition. Oh, if we only had ever HAD capitalism: sole or small group owners making a profit, though who have as their prime mission that of serving a useful social/community/national purpose in selling their products or services, at the lowest price with maximum service after the sale, and surely better than the competition could do. Such capitalists would compete with each other and not with us, and did I say, they would never ask for public money, ask the government to subsidize them or make laws that would ease the burden of having to really compete in the "free market." How funny that a vulture feudalist (Romney) will be the... get this... Republican candidate for President! How funny, they are actually out of the closet!!!
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01:29 AM on 01/14/2012
Isn't it amazing how an item can have the same price at Wal-mart, Best Buy, and other retailers, but nary a price-fixing charge is filed ?

http://www.theodore-roosevelt.com/images/research/speeches/trnationalismspeech.pdf
THE NEW NATIONALISM
Osawatomie, Kansas
August 31, 1910.

"...There can be no effective control of corporations while their political activity remains. To put an end to it will be neither a short nor an easy task, but it can be done.

We must have complete and effective publicity of corporate affairs, so that people may know beyond peradventure whether the corporations obey the law and whether their management entitles them to the confidence of the public. It is necessary that laws should be passed to prohibit the use of corporate funds directly or indirectly for political purposes; it is still more necessary that such laws should be thoroughly enforced. Corporate expenditures for political purposes, and especially such expenditures by public-service corporations, have supplied one of the principal sources of corruption in our political affairs..."

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/08/31-2
The August Day Plutocracy Would Love Us to Forget | CommonDreams.org

"...A hundred years ago, Theodore Roosevelt refused to accept these sorts of concentrations of enormous wealth. At Osawatomie, he helped inspire a generation-long struggle to break up these concentrations. That struggle succeeded.

Our struggle has only just begun. We can succeed, too."
02:19 AM on 01/13/2012
As a British immigrant to the US I am always surprised when Americans declare that the US is free of the class system - a class system that they still think pervades 'old' Europe...

You have an entrenched system of inherited wealth. If that isn't a class system then I don't know what is!

Ok you don't have the silly titles, but quite honestly, I think most European "nobles" would happily swap their titles for the low taxes that wealthy Americans enjoy. You'll be inventing Knighthoods soon......
01:49 AM on 01/13/2012
How does Occupy Walls Street help combat world hunger? (I really wish this was an opening line to a joke but...)

They blockade grain shipments to starving people.

http://tdn.com/news/local/protest-planned-for-first-ship-to-dock-at-egt-grain/article_e9b1d6e0-38d7-11e1-aac5-001871e3ce6c.html?oCampaign=hottopics
TimTim17
Liberals are always on the right side of history.
03:24 AM on 01/13/2012
One can't understand a story without understanding WHY there is world hunger. You have to educate yourself about farming subsidies and how these subsidies in America cause real problems for farmers in other countries. Learn what food DUMPING means and how this affects farmers in poor countries. Read about Haiti and the rice wars (30 years ago, Haiti grew all the rice it needed). For those who talk about FREEDOM you ignore some deep challenges to it. Learn what happens when someone from another country dumps food in your country driving your farmers out of business. Once your farmers are out of business, then you can raise the prices higher and higher, people still need to eat and there is no competition.

Also, read this article: How Banks Cause World Hunger [GRAPHIC].

Take time to educate yourself instead of getting soundbits of brainwashing from places like Faux News.
04:24 AM on 01/13/2012
I don't agree with subsidizing of any kind because it corrupts free market capitalism. I don't watch Fox and I don't take brainwashing Huffpo headlines at face value.
01:36 AM on 01/13/2012
Class Conflict is only important too Progressives. If we had a flat tax or passed the Fair Tax Act, then the loss of class warfare rhetoric would be too damaging to the liberal cause... they need it to survive.
TimTim17
Liberals are always on the right side of history.
03:16 AM on 01/13/2012
You don't make any sense. There is not such thing as a "fair" tax without fair wages. And, if you care so much about being fair, you should propose re-instating the draft, since it is mostly the children of the poor and middle class who fight in our wars. Let's be FAIR about everything. Yes, let's open the Pandora's box on fairness.

This whole "fair tax" rhethoric is nothing but class warfare too. You guys are just too blind to see it.
04:16 AM on 01/13/2012
Equality among wages is not fair because different jobs have different positions, risks, responsibilities and demands that come with them... while not every person shares the same work ethic or promotional ideas for business.

There is nothing unfair about voluntary service. The benefits offered among those in the military are a fair exchange by which most are able to improve their lives, get a college education, healthcare, learn discipline, management, skills and trade.


The Fair Tax is not rhetoric but an actual Bill H.R. 25: Fair Tax Act of 2011. It would abolish the 16th Amendment with all income taxes and replace it with a single broad national consumption tax on retail sales. Poverty level households would be eligible for rebates on necessity goods. No more progressive envy about how much tax "rich" people don't pay. It's a simple and fair concept where the more you buy and own... the more you are taxed.

So yes.. let's open the Pandora's box on fairness.
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12:25 AM on 01/13/2012
Mitt Romney, has in turn charged Obama with promulgating the "politics of envy" and said that discussions over the distribution of wealth were "fine" to talk about "in quiet rooms in discussions about tax policy."

In other words, the only distribution of wealth Mitt cares about is the one involving zeroing out taxes on the rich.
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joyz41
Standing for Fairness for All
02:28 AM on 01/13/2012
George W Bush was known for his many private meetings and the big Bush tax cuts for the rich. Guess what kind of meetings Romney plans to hold if he were to become president.
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03:09 PM on 01/14/2012
Meetings? What meetings? They'd be pity parties for those poor, downtrodden millionaires and billionaires. Romney would probably work out a way to pay them for attending.
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12:52 PM on 01/22/2012
are you speaking of the tax cuts which obama has continued for three years?
yoda987
Paul Krugman is right!
11:54 PM on 01/12/2012
For a movement without a single leader, or millions of dollars in funding, OWS has had a remarkable impact on the way Americans are thinking.
12:06 AM on 01/13/2012
Exactly...somewhere..right now...an American is thinking about doing some bong hits, r@_ping a women and capping it off by sh_,tt!ng on a police car.m
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Roelvdwegen
Truth & Justice are Liberally biased
05:18 AM on 01/13/2012
Thats just because hes been watching Fox news
yoda987
Paul Krugman is right!
07:58 PM on 01/13/2012
Did u read the article?
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12:54 PM on 01/22/2012
ows has been camping out for 4 months and accomplished nothing other than a discussion - the internet changed congress mind on sopa-pipa in one (1) day.
11:34 PM on 01/12/2012
Obama is a two faced joke, he and his wife spend millions of our dollars on their lavish vacations also he spends money like water giving millions to Middle Eastern and African countries while many American children,women and men sleep in cars and under bridges and if I am not mistaken he is also one of those political millionaires too or am I wrong? Making money honestly is good, stealing it from the International Communities like Wall Street, Bankers and the over charging medical professions is something else. Remember the money he gave to AIG bail outs in Europe and millions of those dollars were paid into bonus money for the crooked executives that were part of the housing scam? The Republicans are no better, vote all of them out in 2012 to help save our country.
TimTim17
Liberals are always on the right side of history.
03:32 AM on 01/13/2012
"Remember the money he gave to AIG bail outs in Europe and millions of those dollars were paid into bonus money for the crooked executives that were part of the housing scam?"

Who is he? The AIG bailout happened in 2008. Are you saying that Obama is so skilled that he can go back in time and make presidential decisions during the time when he wasn't even president?

I think we can help save the country by looking in the mirror and seeing our own voting flaws in the creation of this mess. I recommend this actually. Those who voted for Reagan are more responsible for this mess than just about anybody else.
11:14 AM on 01/13/2012
While you are somewhat right in regards to Reagan and deregulation the total economic destruction started with the repeal of the Glass Steagall Act that was signed into law 1933 that would protect the American people from the investment bankers that were in a large part responsible for the 1929 crash and the depression, Bill Clinton signed the repeal of the GS Act in 1999 along with the Gramm-Leach-Blily Act which allowed the bankers to inner mix the depositors money with the likes of JP Morgan, Leman Brothers, Bear Sterns, Goldman Sachs and others. These acts were passed with a majority of both Democrat and Republican alike as the Lobbyist had been hard at work spreading money to all politicians that would accept it. Suggest you read a book,” A COLOSSAL FAILURE of COMMON SENSE this book will enlighten you as to how the politicians in power during the Clinton Administration were responsible for our economic destruction in 2008( The beginning of the end).
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05:13 AM on 01/13/2012
It isnt a lavish vacation. It's the cost of moving the President.
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12:56 PM on 01/22/2012
"It's the cost of moving the President" and wife, children, nanny, mother-in-law, 5000 assistants.
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Trublulu
10:58 PM on 01/12/2012
Why is it that super rich people like Romney call it "class warfare" when anyone dares to challenge the inequity of the system , yet hedge fund operators, like him, swoop in and destroy peoples lives, take away their meager paychecks and benefits and they claim they are successful because of their "hard work." Yeah, right. Can you picture Mitty working in a coal mine, cleaning a latrine, scrubbing a floor, teaching in an overcrowded school, working in an auto assembly plant, or any of the jobs that he demeans? He calls all of us non 1% envious of the rich. Well, it is true. We are envious of people who contribute little to society, claim it is their God-given right to be president because they are rich, and who are pampered by the politicians who give these people tax breaks for doing nothing. Job creators? What a joke (on us)!
What I don't understand is average people who continue to support these creeps by giving them their money and their votes.