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Wall Street Employee: 'Compensation Never Really Going To Come Back'

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 01/11/2012 12:46 pm Updated: 01/11/2012 6:07 pm

On Wall Street, there's some feeling that things just aren't what they used to be.

The industry that many allege played a fundamental role in the financial crisis is now dealing with the ramifications of the meltdown, albeit in its own way. The prospect of smaller profits combined with public ire over banker pay -- including that from the Occupy Wall Street movement -- means that many in the finance industry are saying they believe that the culture of huge bonuses and paychecks may be over forever, at least according to one ex-Lehman banker.

"The feeling is compensation is never really going to come back, which is something entirely new," the anonymous ex-Wall Street worker told New York Magazine as part of their Workplace Confidential series. "After the tech bubble, no one questioned it wouldn't come back. We all knew it would. Now it's different. It's just no fun."

And adjusting to the new normal could be extremely difficult for some Wall Street workers. Another anonymous former finance industry worker told The Guardian as part of a similar series that they were easily able to alter their life to fit new income realities after taking a job as a mergers and acquisitions analyst at a bank in London.

"This was a lesson: it doesn't really matter how much you make, because your lifestyle and expectations move up with your income," the former analyst said.

Though that's only the perspective of a couple of people in the finance industry, it's likely that other Wall Street workers are feeling similar pain. After a year that included anxiety about the weak global economy, slow deal-making, new financial regulations and public anger aimed at financial institutions, banker compensation is on track to be at its lowest level since immediately following the financial crisis in 2008, the Wall Street Journal reports.

Banker bonuses are also slated to drop by at least 20 percent, according to most predictions, though estimates vary. In addition, Credit Suisse will likely suspend its practice this year of automatically increasing pay for junior workers, Bloomberg reports. Other financial institutions are closely watching banks such as Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase to see if they’ll also shift away from what's considered the industry norm.

Unless the banks all change their compensation policies at once, the ones who do could suffer from a talent drain as employees leave for other banks that are paying more. Brokerage executives at Jefferies Group have threatened to leave the company if their bonuses aren't up to snuff with other Wall Street firms, according to the New York Post.

While Wall Street pay may be down, banks' ratio of compensation-to-revenue is likely to go up. At Goldman Sachs, compensation as a share of revenue is slated to go up to 44 percent from 39.3 percent, according to the New York Times, a trend that is common during tough economic periods.

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On Wall Street, there's some feeling that things just aren't what they used to be. The industry that many allege played a fundamental role in the financial crisis is now dealing with the ramificati...
On Wall Street, there's some feeling that things just aren't what they used to be. The industry that many allege played a fundamental role in the financial crisis is now dealing with the ramificati...
 
 
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01:45 PM on 01/13/2012
I'm not really even sure what any of this means. There aren't any numbers here. Bonuses are expected to be at their lowest since after the 2008 crash? But weren't people up in arms right about then as bankers wrote themselves enormous bonus checks right after accepting government bailouts? So what are the actual bonuses? No, not relative to some other time...just what are the bonuses? With compensation increasing as a share of the expenses, how can the pay be anything but spectacular?

I'll bet you my bonus against these whining ingrate leeches' 'that theirs is higher by several orders of magnitude than mine.
12:46 PM on 01/13/2012
Man, having your bonuses cut and having to live on only 6 figures a year. That must be really tough on you guys. I mean, I am currently having to chose between groceries and RXs, but I can sympathize.... having only 4 houses instead of 5 must be horrible for you.
12:40 PM on 01/13/2012
How come everyone buys that in the banking industry if you don't PAY for the talent, the good employees will go elsewhere but no one thinks that about other professions? If it's true on wall street why wouldn't it be true in the classroom? Doesn't higher pay attract and retain better teachers too?
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hg wells
09:54 AM on 01/13/2012
How about if Goldman compensates according to profits not revenue...like every other business in the world.
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authorized-user
No right way to do a wrong thing
09:00 AM on 01/13/2012
Brain drain at the banks,,,,LOL,,, It's time for their bosses to find the next generation of evil geniuses.

Solution------>Pitch your tent in the park and complain about losing your bonus.
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hg wells
09:55 AM on 01/13/2012
yep...if these people are so smart, how come they have effectively killed the goose that lays the golden eggs.
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spkninglsh
'Poor' Fridge Owner
07:59 AM on 01/13/2012
You should ask the world economy how it feels about you.
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Allan C Rogers
11:59 PM on 01/12/2012
My heart bleeds peanut butter and jelly for these unfortunate souls. Suck it up cry babies other folks have it worst than you do.
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kamact
Market Observer
11:38 PM on 01/12/2012
So jump,...
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TrueConservative
What happened to the GOP?
11:37 PM on 01/12/2012
Try getting into a job that actually produces something.
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rMatey
old, recovered Xtian, Liberal
10:21 PM on 01/12/2012
As one of those real-world jobbers all I can say is putting food on the family was never fun (Bushism). We've had to put up with job losses and flat wages, welcome to the new world.
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StevieTheK
On n'oublie rien, rien du tout
10:01 PM on 01/12/2012
awwwwwww
unique
Animal lover forever
09:55 PM on 01/12/2012
Go jump in a lake.

You big earners need to help the 99%.
Isn't that what America is all about?
Helping those that are less fortunate?
I am not rich but I help strangers all the
time to make their lives easier. I help them
legally and I help them with money, like
paying for a Bankruptcy Lawyer, Representing
them for Social Securith Disability, purchasing
food and clothes for them. I feel I have all I need
so why not help someon in need.
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Pavane
I pick my battles and walk from the rest.
01:46 AM on 01/13/2012
Bless you for helping others. Fanned!
unique
Animal lover forever
02:31 PM on 01/13/2012
Thanks for the blessing. Stats show the 99% have always been more charitable than the 1%. All you need do is look at the millionaires in Congress and see that they are not charitable.
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sippewissett
We are ALL Americans, not just the noisy few.
05:25 PM on 01/12/2012
Too friggin' bad that "it's not fun any more." Your six- and seven-digit bonuses are an offense to the rest of the nation. You might have heard of us, the 99%? Well, we're here and we're voting this year so expect less "fun" in the future too.
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Thumbody
just for the halibut!
04:56 PM on 01/12/2012
"We just can't rip people off like we use to, I'm not giving up though Washington or someone on the street will find another industry to exploit soon."