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South Carolina Bills Call for Drug Tests, Volunteer Work For Unemployment Pay

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First Posted: 01/12/12 04:50 PM ET Updated: 01/12/12 05:39 PM ET

Republican lawmakers in South Carolina want unemployed people to prove they're not on drugs to qualify for unemployment insurance. And they want the long-term jobless to volunteer part-time to continue receiving benefits.

Proposals to drug test poor and unemployed people have ricocheted from state to state over the past year, even landing in the U.S. House of Representatives. The South Carolina proposals, taken together, thus far represent the strictest measures targeted at unemployed people.

State Sen. Kevin Bryant (R), who led last year's successful effort to reduce state unemployment insurance from 26 to 20 weeks, authored the drug testing legislation.

"Here's my logic," Bryant told HuffPost. "If you're working, in most occupations you could be subject to a random drug test. Those working, paying taxes have to stay clean and might get drug tested. So I think it only makes sense that those receiving benefits paid for by the taxpayer ought to have the same accountability."

Bryant doesn't care that in Florida, the one state where the legislature enacted a drug testing statute (for welfare applicants), a federal judge quickly halted the policy on constitutional grounds: "I can't make that a determining factor on legislation I would pursue," he said. "I can't go call up a local liberal activist judge and ask if they're going to it throw it out before I put it in a bill."

The federal judge who stopped the Florida drug testing law cited the Constitution's ban on unreasonable search and seizure. When HuffPost asked Bryant if he had any concern about whether testing would be an affront to citizens' constitutional rights, he said, "You also got a duty to protect what you're taking out of the taxpayer's pocket."

When asked about the Florida judge's finding a lack of evidence that the policy saves money, Bryant said, if it prevents unemployed people from spending money on drugs, testing is worthwhile even if it costs the government. "I do think the benefits outweigh the costs. Hopefully folks will choose not to use drugs."

Bryant's bill won the approval of a state Senate subcommittee this week and is on its way to the full Senate Labor Commerce and Industry Committee, along with a measure by state Sen. Paul Campbell (R) that would require claimants to take available jobs and do community service.

"It says if you've been out of work six months and there's a job that you are physically and mentally able to do, you have to take it," Campbell said. "And then it says that if you've been out of work for six months, you need to volunteer for 16 hours a week. And whether we make it mandatory or not, I don't know. We've got to look at how federal law here sets with it."

Federal law may be a problem for both the drug testing and volunteering requirements, since the relevant statute says the only legitimate reasons to deny or reduce eligible workers' benefits must involve a discharge for misconduct, claim fraud or disqualifying income. But the U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill in December that would change federal law to allow states to disqualify unemployment claimants who test positive for drugs.

Campbell, a chemical engineer, said he has had lots of experience hiring people at chemical plants and that people who are already employed, or are at least volunteering, make better candidates. "You're telling your future employers No. 1, I've got good work habits. I can get to work. I get to work on time. I'm not in trouble. I'm working currently," he said. "There's been a couple cases that have been given to me that say that people have volunteered and gotten jobs through their volunteer activities."

Two-thirds of Fortune 500-sized companies make job offers contingent on applicants passing drug tests, according to a 2011 survey of 80 recruiters by Corporate Executive Board, a business research and advisory firm.

While it's true employers can drug test their workers, it's different for the state to do it, said Sue Berkowitz, director of the South Carolina Appleseed Legal Justice Center, a anti-poverty advocacy group. Proposing testing is a deliberate effort to poke the jobless in the eye, she said.

"People who've lost their jobs feel really bad. It's one more message to make them feel even worse," Berkowitz said. It's "the one place they can turn, this insurance they paid for while they were working, and then they have to go through all this indignity in order to help support themselves and their families."

Last year, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley (R), a supporter of drug testing unemployed people, said hundreds of local job applicants couldn't pass drug tests. Upon investigation, her claim was proved completely false.

In response to Republicans' drug testing bills, Democrats in several other states have introduced legislation to require drug testing of lawmakers. Both Campbell and Bryant said they would support drug testing for the state legislature. Bryant pointed out that he had supported a 2008 bill that would have allowed drug testing of state legislative candidates. The bill passed the state Senate but not the House.

Earlier on HuffPost:

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Republican lawmakers in South Carolina want unemployed people to prove they're not on drugs to qualify for unemployment insurance. And they want the long-term jobless to volunteer part-time to continu...
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Fred Bronson
America Unite
03:46 PM on 04/10/2012
What about those on welfare, and illegals collecting food stamps and Medicaid??? If those are not tested this is surely discrimination against those who lost their jobs to illegals
02:32 PM on 04/10/2012
The same should go for section 8 along with extensive back ground checks!!
03:18 PM on 02/03/2012
I'm actually for the urinalysis to start UI benefits. Maybe even random screenings while drawing. I'd like to see our public officials tested too. All government employees should be. Hair follicle.

Not so much on the volunteering though. If they don't have jobs and can barely pay the bills how are they supposed to pay to go to a wage-less job? Ever been unemployed for a while and then start work? That first month will give you stomach ulcers trying to drive back and forth while they hold your first check.

And having to take any job after 6 months? So one can go from $45k a year and after 24 weeks of unemployment they would be forced to make $18k? How about a -20% rule instead? From day one of UI benefits claim any job offer that pays no less than 80% of your previous wage you have to take. That way the $45k guy could still live on $36k and it reduces the total number of people claiming UI.
04:33 PM on 01/24/2012
Wait let me get this straight…. a BUNCH of people lost jobs en masse a couple of years ago….most are still jobless and now the politicians want to treat them like criminals and con artists? I guess it does take one to know one doesn’t it?
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kemcha
Advocate for the 99ers
08:03 AM on 01/24/2012
So, now Republicans are saying that all unemployed Americans are drug users? That takes a lot of balls ...
12:35 PM on 01/19/2012
Mandated(Court Sanctioned) community service is normally affiliated with paying off your debt to society due to minor infractions with the law: DUI; Shoplifting.ect.. Wow, I guess since we have mandatory background checks which include criminal and financial screening, mandatory drug testing, why not include mandatory community service until you get hired for a wage. Wow, what incentive would employers have to hire you full time/part time when they can get you for free as a volunteer..... REPUBLICANS get your head out of your A** Try telling your creditors that you will pay them once the company that you are volunteering to work for free - i will pay you once they decide to hire me full time......PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!!!!
02:22 PM on 01/19/2012
Indeed it does seem silly to have someone "volunteer" to work so they can receive UI benefits. Why not simply hire them to do the "volunteer" work, and get them off the UI benefits????
More to the point employees pay into the UI fund. It is not a gift! How about a law requiring lawmakers must pass yearly random drug checks, or forfeit pay and benefits???
04:14 PM on 01/30/2012
Great point! Also my understanding is that looking for a job should be your full-time job. How are you going to be looking for a job if you have to volunteer your time???
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dmbraddy
panderingpoliticians.com
11:04 PM on 01/18/2012
'"Here's my logic," Bryant told HuffPost.'

What Kevin Bryant calls logic is the standard Republican strategy of blaming the victims. "Let's drug test all those lazy unemployed asking for handout!" Well, they've done that in other states and found drug test failure rates of 1%-2%. That's lower than the public at large. Bryant must know that, which makes him a hypocrite. He simply wants to punish people for having the audacity to get laid off and discourage them from applying for benefits they have earned.

http://www.panderingpoliticians.com/2012/01/sop-for-gop.html
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dmbraddy
panderingpoliticians.com
10:47 PM on 01/18/2012
"You also got a duty to protect what you're taking out of the taxpayer's pocket."

So, according to Kevin Bryant it's more important to protect money than the constitution.
02:25 PM on 01/19/2012
Reminds me of Bushes famous statement (paraphrased here) "We need a world class legal system, as long as it does not impede the flow of capital" Implying that laws could be superseded by the need to move cash.
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qsfoxx
still chasing the wascally wabbit...
06:55 PM on 01/14/2012
It would also be prudent to stop the scam where teenage girls as young as 14 deliberately have a child out of wedlock, abandon the child to the state, and within 48 hours the grandmother shows up to take that grandchild as a foster child in exchange for monthly payments from the government, of course. After four or five such children the family (that includes the mother and grandmother) can afford a new BMW at taxpayer expense.
12:47 PM on 01/19/2012
You really believe that this is a common practice. That is the most absurd thing that I've ever heard. It may have happen once or twice, but you speak as this is a common thing. What data do you have to support this claim? Also how much does a person get per foster child? Is it really that much that they can afford to take care of themselves pay their utilities and then a $500 a month car payment?
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qsfoxx
still chasing the wascally wabbit...
01:05 PM on 01/19/2012
If it can be done, it will be done, and it has been done - far more often that you might think. In South Carolina many black girls in their early teens want nothing more than to have a baby. It's seemingly a cultural thing according to an acquaintance teaching in the local school system. Once or twice? You're out of touch with reality.
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Donald J Sullivan
Monetary Reform Now
06:56 AM on 01/14/2012
The people who proposed this are Devil spawns. If this doesn't show the true face of the lazy Gop adopting bad ideas or resurrecting bad ideas from over 20 yrs ago idk what does. I say we drug test all congress and the Senate this way its easy to get them out of office. I wonder how many we would be left with!Poll shows 1out 6 people smoke weed so how many you think in congress alone?
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tjamman
Tax The Rich Until It's FIXED!!
10:23 PM on 01/13/2012
SABOTAGE!!

PUT DOG-DOO IN THE ICE BOX - (use your imagination!!).

The potential for SABOTAGE is ENDLESS!!

Presented SOLELY for entertainment purposes...
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tjamman
Tax The Rich Until It's FIXED!!
10:20 PM on 01/13/2012
First they came for the unemployed. But I said nothing since I was not unemployed...
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tjamman
Tax The Rich Until It's FIXED!!
10:12 PM on 01/13/2012
SABOTAGE, SABOTAGE, SABOTAGE!!!

Clog the toilets! Break the light bulbs! Short out the electrical systems!

PISS IN THE COFFEE!!

WATER THE COMPUTERS!!

CALL IN BOMB THREATS!!

DIAL 911!!

CALL LOOP RECORDINGS IN AUSTRALIA and leave the phone connected (works GREAT at night!!

ORDER PIZZAS - LOTS OF THEM!!

GIVE THE PHONE NUMBERS AND EMAIL ADDRESSES TO EVERYONE!!

If they make you work YOU ARE A SLAVE!!

It's the DUTY of a slave to SABOTAGE, CRIPPLE and DESTROY the people and institutions that enslave him.

For the record - I am not advocating ANY of this.
ESPECIALLY anything illegal!

It's just my concept of JUSTICE!!

OTHERWISE, I am merely blowing off steam, nothing more...
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perrybones
07:24 PM on 01/13/2012
My gosh, they make it too easy to collect nowadays. You file, go home and collect checks in the mail. When I collected 30 years ago, they made you show up every two weeks, stand in long lines, get up to the window and show at least 4 jobs you applied for (must have copies of applications). get approved, then wait in a second "pay" line to get the check. 1.5 hours just to get $40.25! I only did that for 1 month, work was better than doing that!
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tjamman
Tax The Rich Until It's FIXED!!
10:14 PM on 01/13/2012
They were dumb then.

So, let's be even DUMBER now...
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tjamman
Tax The Rich Until It's FIXED!!
10:20 PM on 01/13/2012
And, what planet are YOU on?

The checks are deposited to your debit card.

They GIVE you a debit card too!

Why look over forged and bogus job applications - with your friend's phone numbers for counterfeit reference.
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perrybones
06:58 AM on 01/14/2012
So your plan is? Keep paying for people to sit home or summer in florida? None of these people contributed enough to the fund to even pay them for 3 months. Guess we will be getting the "bill" for this soon. My point is that if you make it that easy to get paid for nothing, what incentive is there to start a new business or gear up for a different career, since the one you did before has no jobs.
05:48 PM on 01/13/2012
Look at Newzeland with no unemployment. If you want a check you work for it. Everyone can work in some way. There may be fifty people holding flags on a small road repair job or a hundred picking up trash but they are doing something to get a check. If you are going to get a payment from the government then you should at least do something for the public to earn it.
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tjamman
Tax The Rich Until It's FIXED!!
10:01 PM on 01/13/2012
So, tell that to corporate America.
That's where the free money goes.

IN BULK AMOUNTS TO GREAT TO COUNT!!!
12:30 AM on 01/17/2012
...and when is it that you do a job search? I'm sorry - I didn't hear you - say again?