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France To Pursue Budget Reforms Following Downgrade

France Downgrade

By ANGELA CHARLTON   01/14/12 08:24 AM ET   AP

PARIS -- France's prime minister said Saturday his country will push ahead with cost-cutting measures after its top-tier debt rating was downgraded, a blow with repercussions across financially beleaguered Europe.

Other European countries from Austria to Cyprus assailed ratings agency Standard & Poor's after a raft of downgrades Friday night that renewed questions about the power such agencies wield. The move may make it more expensive for struggling countries to borrow money, reduce debts and avoid a new recession.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said downgrades of nine eurozone countries underline the fact that Europe has a "long road" ahead to win back investors' confidence. Her own country, the engine of Europe's economy, was not downgraded.

Merkel and French Prime Minister Francois Fillon said the downgrades should push European countries to quickly implement a planned pact to strengthen budget discipline. Germany and France have piloted rescue efforts for other eurozone countries as the continent has been swept up in crisis after crisis over the past two years.

Fillon struck a somber, measured tone when responding Saturday to the downgrade, which was particularly wounding to France's self-image and could hurt bailout efforts. France is central to those efforts, and the downgrade, by pushing up its own borrowing costs, could make it harder for France to help others.

Fillon said the downgrade confirmed his conservative government's plans for more reforms to bring down debts, despite worries that more austerity measures could suffocate growth.

He said the government wouldn't adjust the budget yet, saying it had been devised with an assumption of higher borrowing costs. S&P had warned 15 European nations in December that they were at risk for a downgrade.

The downgrade, three months before France holds presidential elections, was "an alert that should not be dramatized any more than it should be underestimated," he said.

Standard & Poor's stripped France of its coveted AAA status, knocking it down one notch to AA+. It dropped Italy even lower. Germany retained its top-notch rating, but Portugal's debt was consigned to junk.

Cyprus' finance minister called Standard & Poor's two-notch downgrade of his eurozone country to junk status "arbitrary and unfounded."

Kikis Kazamias said on Saturday that the agency ignored the island's deficit-cutting measures as well as the discovery of significant offshore natural gas deposits. He said the action illustrates once more how credit ratings agencies exacerbate Europe's debt crisis.

Austria's chancellor criticized S&P's decision to strip his country of the top AAA rating, and noted that his coalition government is working on an austerity package.

Werner Faymann wrote on his Facebook page that "Austria's economic data remain very good." He added that the decision showed "that Austria must become more independent from the financial markets."

The downgrade brought a downbeat end to a mildly encouraging week for Europe's heavily indebted nations and served as a reminder that the 17-country eurozone faces another tough year.

France's downgrade to AA+ lowers it to the level of U.S. long-term debt, which S&P downgraded last summer.

Stocks fell Friday as downgrade rumors reached the trading floors of Europe and the United States. But the declines were nothing like the wrenching swings of last summer and fall.

Speaking to fellow conservatives in the northern German city of Kiel, Merkel stressed the importance of a new treaty enshrining tougher fiscal rules. Most European Union leaders agreed in early December to draw up the pact.

"We are now called upon ... to implement quickly the fiscal pact and implement it decisively – without trying to water it down everywhere," Merkel said.

The chancellor sought to allay concerns that the downgrade of France, the 17-nation eurozone's No. 2 economy after Germany, would complicate the work of the bloc's temporary rescue fund, the euro440 billion ($560 billion) European Financial Stability Facility. However, she did underline the urgency of putting its permanent successor, the European Stability Mechanism, in place quickly.

France's presidential elections could complicate Europe's internal discussions. President Nicolas Sarkozy, who has been at the heart of the debate, is highly unpopular and far from certain of winning a second term.

The man who tops polls ahead of the April and May elections, Socialist Francois Hollande, said the downgrade was a punishment for conservative Sarkozy's policies. He said Saturday that austerity measures were stifling growth and France's competitiveness.

Elie Cohen, economist with France's National Center for Scientific Research, said the Standard & Poor's decision casts doubt on Sarkozy's choices and European leaders' ability to handle the crisis.

"From the moment France was downgraded, it boomerangs on (Sarkozy's) own economic record, and it becomes one factor in the electoral battle," Cohen told AP Television News. Cohen said France's economic standing had been weakening for a long time, and the downgrade was overdue.

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Geir Moulson in Berlin, Cecile Brisson and Jeffrey Schaeffer in Paris and Menelaos Hadjicostis in Nicosia, Cyprus, contributed to this report.

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World Citizen
05:32 PM on 01/16/2012
Just a thought and this is coming from someone who has lived in France since 2000. Why doesn't the french government do an audit of all the households in the south of france, each renting or living in more than 3000 sq ft villas, with swimming pools, with cars and who at the same time declare that they have no savings, no jobs, and who claim this subsidy - allocation familiale... I bet you they will find MANY french people in the stinking south of france who fit this description. The FISC (tax office) of france should start this audit, specially in the south of france as they will soon realize that many in the south of france have gotten by with the sweet life without paying their due taxes.
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07:45 PM on 01/16/2012
WC,

I can't comment on your post, but may I ask what the French people think? Do they want to leave the EU?
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World Citizen
02:26 AM on 01/17/2012
Most think that it would be a disaster to leave the EU but they do want the non-conforming countries to leave. The french downgrade is really a smash to their ego and Sarkozy's ego as well. Notice how he had set-up France to 'pose' alongside Germany which really was a strategy to assure the french that they are o.k. and are up to the same level as Germany. I'm curious to see the EU gathering next photo op.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
09:43 AM on 01/16/2012
If the USA (and/or Greece, UK, France, PIIGS, etc.) had a larger industrial manufacturing portion as a part of their GDP, then that would create additional new NATIONAL WEALTH more rapidly, and then the US government would be able to raise more funds to spend on government activities by CONFISCATING some of this newly created NATIONAL WEALTH from the wealth creators, and then not having to borrow WEALTH (US Dollars or other currency) back from foreign individuals (in the foreign industrialized nations) that US citizens paid to make the consumer items that we imported.

The USA must create our own new NATIONAL WEALTH to pay for all of our own US government expenses without borrowing additional money from foreign individuals.

The US International Trade Balance (Deficit for the USA) indicates that Brazil, Russia, India, China, (BRIC) nations, plus Pakistan, South Korea, and the other industrialized countries of the world with positive net foreign trade balances are NET CREATORS of NATIONAL WEALTH for their nations, and the de-industrialized USA and the European nations with negative net trade balances are NET CONSUMERS (DESTROYERS) of the existing NATIONAL WEALTH in their nations, who live “high on the hog†by continuously borrowing wealth from the industrialized countries.
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
11:49 AM on 01/16/2012
Very True. The problem is how do we get from point A (status quo) to point B (strong manufacturing sector).

Some would argue we must match manufacturing efficiency with countries like China. This would require cutting wages to about 1/12 of current levels in the U.S., and 1/19 of levels in France (1). This would be for all workers, including mechanics, lawyers, Doctors, secretaries, teachers, businessmen, etc. Everyone plays a role in an economy's efficiency.

In addition, we would need to cut costs for electricity by eliminating pollution controls, but this would have the effect of poisoning our environment (2).

An alternative to the above would be the reduction in global trade through the use of protectionist policies like tariffs. Note that China imposed tariffs on autos imported from the U.S. in December (3). We could start with a 20% tariff like China is using.

References:
1a: China Labor Costs ($2,400 per year): http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/opinion/will-china-stumble-dont-bet-on-it.html
1b: U.S. Labor Costs ($31,244 per year): http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph
1c: French Labor Costs ($45,600 per year): http://www.averagesalarysurvey.com/article/average-salary-in-france/24111453.aspx
2. China Air Pollution: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/07/070709-china-pollution.html
3. China Tariffs: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-12-19/gm-may-boost-china-production-due-to-tariffs-jpmorgan-says.html
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
12:28 PM on 01/16/2012
I believe that the USA should repeal all of our Free Trade Agreements, then institute import tariffs sufficiently high enough to make US made products less expensive than imported Asian made products.

This might mean several hundred percent in order to compendate for US labor costs, but that might be better than having the USA evolve into something resembling Somalia!
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
10:46 PM on 01/15/2012
By all accounts the EU is heading into a very difficult period of economic contraction. None of the EU nations have enough of a tax base that can be tapped for more revenue without devastating political repercussions and without further crippling the EU.

Last month in Spains election (where unemployment is over 22%) the Liberal Party which has been in power for years was tossed out in favor of the Conservative Party.. THis didn't go unoticed by other EU leaders...
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
08:11 AM on 01/16/2012
It should also not be forgotten that "conservatives" have been at the helm in many of these countries as the ship went aground (i.e. Italy).
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
11:34 AM on 01/16/2012
and Spain? Ireland? France? Greece?...Spain is in much worse shape than Italy...Italy has been a disaster for decades.

Europe has had many leaders over the years, most of the large spending programs were put in place by Liberals...When Sweden collapsed, they cut everything in sight and it fixed the problem, when Germany got into huge trouble a few years ago they did the same thing and it worked.
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
keep it solid
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10:03 PM on 01/15/2012
Budget reforms. Ah yes, the cure it all-magic pill.
Still no thoughts of reversing the deindustrialization and deagriculturization of the EU states.
Still no thoughts of stopping the "unfair" trade with China and decreasing (at least) the debt trade with China.
Still no thoughts of actually protecting local businesses and industries from the flooding of cheap Chinese products.
But hey, when has austerity as the cure all solution ever gone wrong? (sarcasm)
02:55 AM on 01/16/2012
No, I don't agree with your viewpoint. Points like that from press conferences or day-to-day national interviews, parliamentarian speeches, discussion, etc. etc. just doesn't make it into the global/ US news.

I can tell you - for example - that the issue of China, Chinese money buying shares in European companies/ brands has received quite some coverage and debate. It certainly was very high on the agenda - politically and economically - at the time when the EFSF/ESM leverage was discussed; it was just recently on the agenda regarding Saab.
Or in Germany it was one of the major points in the discussion about the decision to phase out of nuclear power: Early last year it was pointed out that the right balance has to (explicitly stated so!) prevent decentralization.

It is also repeatedly mentioned in the increased anger about the US/UK/financial sector and it is done so by conservatives and social democrats alike. Much like it is repeatedly pointed out (I think I remember it was also mentioned when Secretary Geithner visited Germany) that other than the US the EU/EZ does have a balanced, small surplus global trade account.
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keep it solid
Have a great day :)
05:03 AM on 01/16/2012
Hello Michael,
Take a look at the following statistics.
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_PUBLIC/6-18052009-BP/EN/6-18052009-BP-EN.PDF
"EU 27 deficit in trade in goods with China of 170 bn euro in 2008."
By comparison the trade deficit with China was 49 bn in 2000.

It appears that in last couple of years, the trend is reversing,
"Europe Frets Over Trade Deficits With China"
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/21/business/economy/21charts.html?_r=1
"China trade surplus shrinks as global woes deepen"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/13/us-china-economy-trade-idUSTRE79C0K620111013
The influx of the cheap products was devastating to many industries and businesses especially in the EU south. Though EU's exports have also increased, this concerns a selection of products that the Chinese can't or don't produce (eg a BMW) and is less than the number of industries/ products that were affected negatively.
The problem with this is that not everyone can get into the same business and export to China whether.. it be cars or olive oil.
Even today, someone thinking of opening up a business has a very narrow selection in order to not have to compete with the cheap products. The selection is getting narrower as more industrial - higher tech products hit the market e.g solar panels.
Mind you, I do not attribute the whole deindustrialization phenomena to the Chinese. I also attribute it to misspending, and failed EU policies.
03:06 AM on 01/16/2012
Also, the headline, the whole presentation of the issue in the article here is misleading.

What the French PM said was (quoting from a German newspaper): "Rating agencies are not determining our politics. We are completely on schedule with our plans." He ruled out that there would be any new or additional cuts.
If anything - and here I am talking about the reaction of front row "conservatives" (Christian Democrats) in Germany - it is more likely that there will be a political, legislation answer. Since about at least half a year it has already become a constant talking point Christian and Social Democrats alike share that what we are seeing now is a concerted attack by the US.
More concrete I do think we will within the next three month (and I guess jointly with France and some/ almost all (but one island ;) other EZ/EU countries) see legislation passed that undoes with part of the Basel II/III minutes, especially the one that makes a certain rating a legal requirement for assets held by insurance companies and (public) banks.
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
04:32 PM on 01/15/2012
France, Italy, and Greece are experiencing the same scheme we've seen here. Cut taxes, starve the system for 30 years, and then cry "debt".

The number of monstrous mega-yachts has grown by 400% since 1997. That doesn't sound like poverty.

Corporations and the uber-wealthy evade taxes, both legally and illegally, with accountant games. The line between legal and illegal has gotten very gray for a corporation with 2500 tax attorneys.

Don't be gullible.

Reference:
1. Yachts: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25804188/ns/travel-luxury_travel/t/where-big-boys-go-berth/
2. Tax Evasion: http://www.policyshop.net/home/2012/1/9/3-trillion-lost-to-tax-evasion-in-past-decade-wealthy-cheat.html
3. "Legal" Tax Avoidance: http://wraltechwire.com/business/tech_wire/opinion/blogpost/8493372/
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
10:40 PM on 01/15/2012
Not sure where you get your information, but taxes in these counntries are and have been very high for decades....currently for example Greece's tax rate for employer and employee combined is 44% of payroll for their version of Social Security, excluding their regular income taxes...

In the EU the average net pay check is 41% to 55% of the earned amount..
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
08:08 AM on 01/16/2012
A portion of the post discussed tax avoidance and evasion. Like the U.S., these are problems in Europe. Indeed, for the two groups, uber-wealthy and corporations, country borders are no longer relevant.

http://ryankett.hubpages.com/hub/Offshore-Tax-Havens-The-Worlds-10-Best-Tax-Havens
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09:56 AM on 01/16/2012
As everybody knows by now the Greek fisccal system has major problems to make certain companies and individuals actually pay their taxes, no matter how low or high. They even published a list of the most notorious of them.

And comparing tax rates without actually comparing the base the percentage ist impose on doesn't make much sense. It's really very difficult to compare tax rates, not knowing about exemptions and taxfree parts of income.
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Mr MOTO
Three Strikes And You're Not Out!
04:39 PM on 01/16/2012
Not sure going from 500 to 2000 'mega yacht' worldwide over a 15 year period of time is anything to freak out about. Do you know how many multi-millioaires were created by the Dot.com era? Not near as many as football, basketball, baseball, music and television has created I assure you.
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
05:12 PM on 01/16/2012
Yachts are the tip of the iceberg. Productivity has surged, but income and wages have stagnated for most Americans. If the median household income had kept pace with the economy since 1970, it would now be nearly $92,000, not $50,000.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
03:27 PM on 01/15/2012
budget cuts inspired by s and p.
02:38 PM on 01/15/2012
Why should everyone listen to S&P? They are not the only group that evaluates such things. There are three different groups that evaluated the US situation and only S&P downgraded and everyone panicked. Why is everyone looking for the worst possible scenario? We should never give that much influence to any one group. Look at all the agencies that gave AAA to the worthless mortgage scams.
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Hysterian68
bureaucrat/historian/ranter
01:46 PM on 01/15/2012
French banks are holding worthless assets. Large holdings of Greek, Hungarian, and Balkan debt. All set to drag down the rest of Europe's banks and their investors.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
09:47 AM on 01/16/2012
I hope that the USA has dumped any and all European debt that the US Treasury owns.
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Hysterian68
bureaucrat/historian/ranter
11:42 AM on 01/16/2012
“I hope that the USA has dumped any and all European debt that the US Treasury owns.â€
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Gerald, The silence of our major banks , the Wall Street investment bankers, the Federal Reserve chief, and our totally worthless Secretary of the Treasury on this subject speaks volumes. They know and are scared out of their skin investors will catch on.
12:46 PM on 01/15/2012
Austerity can't fix the Euro's problem...

For any country to run a surplus someone else must run a deficit. Any country or state that runs a trade deficit has money leaving its economy.

If that country or state does not have the power to create money to replace that which leaves it will have a continually shrinking supply of money.

It does not matter if these trade deficit countries have ZERO government spending. Eventually all money would be drained from their economy.

Austerity has no way to prevent that, only slow down the inevitable.

The only way for a currency union to survive is for the currency issuer to replace the money lost from its trade deficit states or members the way we do it in the US. Trade deficit members are GIVEN money not loaned and is the only mathematical way it can or ever could work.

Again, it does not matter if these trade deficit governments had ZERO spending. The result is inevitable. The lost money must be replaced not loaned.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
09:49 AM on 01/16/2012
Absolutely!

Privately held NATIONAL WEALTH is made, created, and/or acquired mainly (maybe only) when the members of a family (or the citizen businessmen of a nation, city-state, island, tribe, etc.) perform one or more of the following tasks:

1. plant, grow and/or harvest something of commercial value from the earth;

2. extract something of commercial value from the earth;

3. manufacture something of commercial value that is consumable

4. construct a building that is permanently useful for rental income;

5. provide professional services (medical, legal, dental, engineering, architecture, land surveying, technology, accounting, etc.);

6. collect payment for patent and copyright uses;

and then trade, sell, lease or rent these items and/or services to parties outside of their family, in return for a net transfer of gold, currency or commodities from other parties outside of their family into their own family.
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zogimperator
is this microbiology?
11:50 AM on 01/15/2012
Another neocon gets his chance to knife the people's benefits. This is the Shock Doctrine in action. A few banks and trading engines sink the economy, and then the bureaucrats step in and strip out all the money from public benefits and social mechanisms to pay the shareholders back for their bad bets.

I'm not even going to look: let me guess. The comments below are heavily weighted towards THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOCIALISTS SPEND ALL THE MONEY. Amirite?
04:05 AM on 01/16/2012
I don't share your view, or more precisely your generalization.

I think it is not "Shock Doctrine" nor is it "Socialism running out of other people's money". One lesson I draw especially from the exchange of words (or sometimes arguments) between US commentators (be they private opinions or "professional" from US politicians, economists, lobbyists, activists, journalists ... ) on Europe/EU/EZ related issues is that we must never become so polarized, so entrenched. Above anything else and especially now we must preserve our much more centrist outlook on politics.

Please have a look a little bit above on the comments/ example I gave in response to user/moderator 'keep it solid'. Like I wrote there too there are certainly many questionable decisions taken in order to balance our budgets. The general idea - to have balanced budgets - is, I think, well advised. And in general that can/ must include both looking into the individual spending items questioning if a certain spending is really necessary. And once a parliament concludes that all expenditures are warranted but there is still a funding gap than this gap should be closed by the means of smart taxation. That ofc means progressive taxation; in Germany the saying/ "talking point" for that runs like: stronger, broader shoulders need to carry more than weaker, smaller shoulders.
04:26 AM on 01/16/2012
I can only tell you with confidence from a German perspective but I am under the impression it's the same in France: "conservatives"/ Christian Democrats, social democrats and Greens alike (talking about representatives/ politicians here) are verbally and in policy opposed to 90s/ early 2000s "neocon" (we call it "neoliberal") thought. In Germany, the conservatives/ Chancellor Merkel more than a year ago put an end to the calls from her libertarian (we call it "liberal") coalition partner to cut taxes. The relationship to the proponents of the financial markets has become increasingly frosty (echoed also in an increasingly frosty reaction to the US/UK).
It has gained traction especially because what we see unfolding now: Ireland, last decade's poster child for neoliberal economic policies, in dire straits. Just these weeks we can observe where "flat- taxism" leads in Hungary. On the other hand, Austria, Germany, France but also (northern) Italy - we learned that our policies of preserving our industrial sectors, something we have been ridiculed for prior to the crisis, helps us now.
Yes, also European "conservatives" are more "pro- business" than social democrats. BUT other than in the US there are two notable differences: European conservatives are etatists, believe in a strong, well equipped and funded government and administration (the US "bathtub" analogy would be anathema for them). The more libertarian ideas are represented by an own kind of parties (in Germany for example the FDP).
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zogimperator
is this microbiology?
11:06 AM on 01/16/2012
That is an excellent and comprehensive overview of the situation in Europe. Thank you.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
11:46 AM on 01/15/2012
Same old story. The socialists ALWAYS run out of other peoples money. Maybe this time they will learn something.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
03:27 PM on 01/15/2012
doubt it....we have short memories.
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
05:59 PM on 01/15/2012
don't actually study what happened huh?
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
10:53 PM on 01/15/2012
Ahh...I do and have as I work in the markets. The EU has overspent for decades relying on higher and higher tax rates, expanding GDP and the ability to roll debt. When a bump in the road appears, even a small one can trigger a financial domino effect. SPain collapsed due to its own Real Estate Bubble.

In the case of Greece, they had been advised by EU banks to cut their debt or raise revenues for the last 15 years, instead they increased spending and the size of Government and lied to the EU about Debt to GDP. When the pressure increased they went itno the markets to buy derivitives through currency swaps to reduce the appearance of debt. It failed, they lost MORE money. A couple months ago Greece got caught lieing againn to the EU about the size of Government and Debt..game over.
09:26 AM on 01/15/2012
Germany and France have taken on the leadership role because their economy is "perceived" to be more stable but their banks all have worthless assets on their books. End game will be insolvency because the world's GDP is not large enough to absorb these debts.
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K August
Research alecexposed
08:18 AM on 01/15/2012
Are the Central Banks paying off S&P to downgrade?
I don't blame these countries for being upset. Someone needs to AUDIT S&P and see what kind of money was in it for them!
05:51 AM on 01/15/2012
France's alleged reforms means more taxes including the Financial Tax, how will they attract investors, no idea. Social benefits cuts is the solution for a manageable state. http://goo.gl/uycUu
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K August
Research alecexposed
08:20 AM on 01/15/2012
That's what all the central bank owners want.....social benefits cuts....it's the only thing the oligarchy knows. Trickle UP.......
08:42 AM on 01/15/2012
if an Utopia could be implemented than of course no social programs should be cut, the sad reality is that the burden is just too heavy for any economic sense, regarding oligarchy it should and it can be corrected by democracy, we just need the guts for it
12:09 PM on 01/15/2012
That is in part, if you look at how (different from the US) things are fiscally structured in many European countries an illogical conclusion.

Take Germany for example (and I think it's not much different from France): Yes, for reporting reasons, spending for unemployment, pensions, etc. etc. is reported and disclosed as part of our federal budget. BUT this is (especially if you look at the legal definition) "tax revenue". "Taxes" are collected generally and can be spent on anything (military, infrastructure, education, etc. etc.). Means, there is no legal tie between a tax and for what the so collected money is spent.
Completely different situation regarding the duties we pay for unemployment, pension, statutory accident, etc. : They are exclusively spent for exactly these tasks. And the accounts are in surplus. The basic point is: While it is an insurance by - so to speak - a "public provider", it still is an insurance. If you would for example cut the time of how long you are eligible to receive unemployment benefits, then the surplus in the purse of the public insurance authority would increase but the financial ministry would not have a single Euro more to spend on other issues nor could they cut taxes.
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vandegrasse
Don't Panic
05:41 AM on 01/15/2012
Austerity leads to one thing-increased poverty!
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
11:00 PM on 01/15/2012
when Sweden crashed back in the 90's, they cut like crazy, reduced programs etc.. the economy improved within a couple years...

Austerity does work, certainly better than building a false economy built on depreciated currency as Paul Kruggman suggested the US should do recently. THie is NO free ride...pay now or defer and pay a lot more later...the EU has opted for the later for many years, time has finally run out.
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vandegrasse
Don't Panic
11:11 AM on 01/16/2012
Only a free ride for the wealthy!
03:29 PM on 01/16/2012
Where to start? For such a small post, there's a whole bunch of fallacies in there.
It already starts with the beginning - first, comparing the Swedish cuts with what is currently set up in the mediterranean nations is comparing apples and oranges. Secondly, you fall for the pretty basic fallacy that you argue a causal connection out of a simple correlation. There's plenty of other factors affecting the Swedish economy - not the least their joining the EU in 1995.