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Mars Probe Fell To Earth, But Russian Officials Can't Pinpoint Phobos-Grunt Crash Site

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First Posted: 01/16/12 08:57 AM ET Updated: 01/17/12 08:06 AM ET

by Vladimir Isachenkov, Associated Press

MOSCOW -- Russian officials say they still have no firm information where a failed Mars moon probe plummeted to Earth, the day after it went down.

The unmanned Phobos-Ground probe fell Sunday after being stuck in Earth's orbit for two months.

The $170 million craft was one of the heaviest and most toxic pieces of space junk ever to crash to Earth, but space officials and experts said the risks posed by its crash were minimal because the toxic rocket fuel on board and most of the craft's structure would burn up in the atmosphere high above the ground anyway.

News agencies had cited Defense Ministry spokesman Alexei Zolotukhin as saying Sunday that fragments of the craft fell in the Pacific Ocean off Chile's coast. But Zolotukhin told The Associated Press Monday that estimate was based on calculations, and no witness reports had been received.

The deputy head of Russia's space agency, Anatoly Shilov, told state news channel Vesti that agency data assumed the craft broke up somewhere over Brazil.

A statement Monday from the space agency, Roscosmos, cited the reported Defense Ministry assessment, but gave no further information, noting "the lack of means of visual and other monitoring" in the region.

The Phobos-Ground probe was designed to travel to one of Mars' twin moons, Phobos, land on it, collect soil samples and fly them back to Earth in 2014 in one of the most daunting interplanetary missions ever. It got stranded in Earth's orbit after its Nov. 9 launch, and efforts by Russian and European Space Agency experts to bring it back to life failed.

The probe weighed 13.5 metric tons (14.9 tons), and that included a load of 11 metric tons (12 tons) of highly toxic rocket fuel intended for the long journey to the Martian moon of Phobos and left unused as the probe got stranded in orbit around Earth.

Roscosmos had said that all of the fuel would burn up on re-entry.

Phobos-Ground was Russia's most expensive and the most ambitious space mission since Soviet times. Its mission to the crater-dented, potato-shaped Martian moon was to give scientists precious materials that could shed more light on the genesis of the solar system.

Russia's space chief has acknowledged the Phobos-Ground mission was ill-prepared, but said that Roscosmos had to give it the go-ahead so as not to miss the limited Earth-to-Mars launch window.

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04:57 PM on 01/17/2012
Can't launch it right... can't track its re-entry, either. Where is the surprise?
11:09 AM on 01/17/2012
So, it has to be one of those threads where stupidity prosper. Great comments, guys! Speaking of this Phobos probe, it was such a waste of money! They had a chance to spend those millions on something useful... something like finding Yeti, locating Tunguska meteorite, chasing aliens and preventing them from invading the Earth, or even determining the existence of Higgs boson uncertain particle!
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media4me2
08:43 PM on 01/16/2012
Like the Obama space program.
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FerrisValyn
04:51 AM on 01/17/2012
1. That didn't even make sense as an insult
2. The reforms the Obama administration is trying to get through NASA will make it better
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media4me2
09:45 AM on 01/17/2012
#2 Oh, that muslim outreach program he was talking about.
05:38 PM on 01/16/2012
The world can't find a downed satellite but they claim to be able track and hit incoming missiles. I guess the trillions of dollars we spent on missile defence was a big fraud and scam like everything else they tell us..
04:59 PM on 01/17/2012
Well, if they can track it, they won't tell you... as it would give away the technological capability of the system.

My bet is that they can and did track it and that it is simply another classified file among thousands of others.
05:04 PM on 01/17/2012
They have already told us they can track objects and knock them out. Again I say was it a lie.............................
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HeadlineZoo
05:32 PM on 01/16/2012
The last group of Martians finished relocating to Utah about 150 years ago. They have genetically altered themselves to be indistinguishable from, and completely compatible with, humans. They behave like we do 99.99% of the time but there rare exceptions of extremely odd behavior that gives the game away--like throwing their dog, or grandmother, in an air tight crate on top of the car for extended car trips. These "aliens" are completely unaware that they've done anything wrong until it is pointed out.

They have one mission: to assimilate with the local population, breed, lord over them and then travel to other locations to continue the process.
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edgarcaycedoc
05:29 PM on 01/16/2012
I shot a Mars probe in the air.
It fell to earth I know not where.
We tried to track it anyway,
but lost it early one fine day.
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cadawa
04:55 PM on 01/16/2012
There are still tribes in Brazil that have had little or no contact with the modern world. Do we have a 2012 version of 'The Gods Must Be Crazy'? Brazil is as big as the US and much of it is covered with thick vegetation. Good luck with finding the pieces.
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edgarcaycedoc
05:30 PM on 01/16/2012
And even now the aboriginal people of Brazil might be breathlessly awaiting for the "gods" to emerge from the Mars probe spacecraft.
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victorianism
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04:20 PM on 01/16/2012
Just be curious.

What if some nation decides to send a nuke to Mars but somehow fails Mars as Russians did this time, with it falling back to a certain area of earth that happens to its enemy? Is it to be considered as a kind of nuclear warhead or just a piece of space junk?
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MaxHeadroom
Amat Victoria Curam
04:26 PM on 01/16/2012
That's why it will never happen as all countires know this could be a possiblity and will not send anything into space like what you described.

Besides, what would be the reason, and motivation for doing so?
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edgarcaycedoc
05:33 PM on 01/16/2012
"Besides, what would be the reason, and motivation for doing so?" Perhaps to try and blast a giant asteroid out of its inevitable collision with planet earth. I don't know that it WOULD be, but I do contend that it MAY be "motivation for doing so."
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Miranda Wrietz
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05:35 PM on 01/16/2012
That last Russian spacecraft that did not work and fell to earth did indeed have plutonium on it. The whole world was worried and condemned the Russians for this. They apparently have not improved, but at least there is no radioactive material on this craft. So there was no "nuke" but the previous craft did have plutonium onboard. And it was was considered "Space junk" and not an attack.
04:02 PM on 01/16/2012
THIS ROCKET CHECK UP LOOKS AS IF THE GOLD IN KING TUT'S TEMPLE'S HAVE BEEN FOUND AGAIN, FUNNY THE NAME CARTER, SYNONYMOUS WITH HOWARD CARTER, THE BRIT, THAT SWAGGED HIS WAY TO UNEARTH A CURSE OVER THE GOLD, STILL HAS NOT GOTTEN ENOUGH, EVEN AFTER ROSYLNNE AND JIMMY CARTER, WITH DRUNKEN BROTHER BILLY (BEER) CARTER TOOK AMERICA FOR A RIDE IN 1976. GOLD WAS ONLY $476.00 A TROY OUNCE. TRY KEEPING UP WITH THOSE SCALES IN THESE DAYS,SENIOR.
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Richard McRae
04:13 PM on 01/16/2012
Now my eyes hurt.
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M33TBallz
IMHO, SYPH
05:35 PM on 01/16/2012
wtf.
04:01 PM on 01/16/2012
To much vodka. (in Russian accent) "I thinks we have few spare bots when we put the darn thing together"
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coveark
Obstructionists, get off the hill !!!
03:55 PM on 01/16/2012
Martian retaliation ??
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03:25 PM on 01/16/2012
Anti-Russian propaganda of 50 years still effective according to these comments.
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SarcasticFringehead
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02:49 PM on 01/16/2012
"Russia's space chief has acknowledged the Phobos-Ground mission was ill-prepared..."

Haste, makes waste.

$170 million of it, to be precise.

Not to mention, a big black eye on the face of the Russian space program.
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Mr Hoodoo
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03:08 PM on 01/16/2012
Nyet! Is captialist anti-Rooskie propaganda!
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SarcasticFringehead
Mute Nostril Agony
03:16 PM on 01/16/2012
Da, comrade.
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JRMIT
Your sanity is yours. Its up to you to keep it.
02:42 PM on 01/16/2012
Bull, When something that big falls from the sky, someones big brother knows about it, and where it hit.
I don't think much falls from orbit that isn't tracked all the way down by someone.
UtahLiberal45
End the radical right
02:50 PM on 01/16/2012
The National Reconnaisance Office knows !!!!
http://www.nro.gov/
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Cody Wandel
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02:37 PM on 01/16/2012
Russian Quality.