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Goldman Employees Likely To Cash In Despite Company's Down Year

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 01/17/2012 1:46 pm Updated: 01/23/2012 12:06 pm

Goldman Sachs isn't likely to garner much public favor when it announces its earnings this week, as forecasts predict that the bank will boost the share of its revenues that it's putting toward employee compensation.

Although most analysts expect Goldman's earnings to have fallen in 2011, and although the company this year recorded only its second quarterly loss as a public company, employee compensation is on track to reach about 44 percent of the company's total revenues for the year -- notably higher than last year, when Goldman employee compensation came to just 39.3 percent of revenue, according to The Independent.

In other words -- if the forecasts prove correct -- even though Goldman's performance was worse than it was last year, the company's employees will be still be handsomely rewarded by raking in a larger share of the bank's profits.

Goldman's earnings report, which comes out this Wednesday, will be one in a series of closely watched releases from major financial firms this month. Taken together, the earnings reports from companies like Goldman, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, JPMorgan and Bank of America will offer a picture of how Wall Street has coped with the tumult of the past year, when markets tumbled, popular resentment welled up and politicians began talking more pointedly about the need for stringent financial regulation.

Thus far, the reported earnings of big banks have largely matched or exceeded the gloomy predictions offered by analysts. Citigroup announced Tuesday that its profits fell by 11 percent last quarter, more than what experts forecast. JPMorgan Chase has seen its profits drop by 23 percent. Wells Fargo's income is up 20 percent, but its revenue fell 4 percent.

Amid an atmosphere of sluggish activity, economic anxiety and public scorn for six- and seven-figure paychecks, companies are taking various measures to limit compensation costs this year, though their approaches seem unlikely to pacify the banks' more vocal critics.

Goldman, for example, may be increasing its pay-as-percentage-of-revenue despite actual revenues falling, but it is also halving the salaries of many of its partners, and denying bonuses to some employees, according to The Wall Street Journal. Morgan Stanley is reportedly limiting its bonuses to $125,000, deferring many bonus payments by one or two years, and cutting compensation for some employees by as much as 40 percent, according to the WSJ. And many firms are said to be considering pay freezes for their junior workers, according to Bloomberg.

Still, in absolute terms, banker salaries remain higher than the members of Occupy Wall Street would probably be pleased with. The average salary for a Goldman Sachs employee at the moment is $292,397 -- down from last year's average of $370,056, but still about 11 times the current U.S. median salary of $26,364, a pay scale that leaves many families struggling to cover basic living expenses.

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Goldman Sachs isn't likely to garner much public favor when it announces its earnings this week, as forecasts predict that the bank will boost the share of its revenues that it's putting toward employ...
Goldman Sachs isn't likely to garner much public favor when it announces its earnings this week, as forecasts predict that the bank will boost the share of its revenues that it's putting toward employ...
 
 
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behavingbadly
reality doesn't care what you believe
11:39 AM on 01/18/2012
I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked!! Next thing you know, they'll be saying that the whole "best and brightest" thing was a hoax, and that Goldman's profits have nothing to do with adding real value to the economy.
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Claudia L
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06:30 PM on 01/21/2012
You look cute when you're shocked.
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09:56 AM on 01/18/2012
I get real tired of this BS. You can credit the financial industry for New York’s revival. Those of us who lived there in the 1980s and the 1970s recall that it was violent, crime ridden and depopulating. Between 1950 and 1980 the city lost more than 10% of its population. Its infrastructure was decaying, particularly the subway, and no one who had alternatives rode the subways after rush hour. In the early 1970s, the city flirted with bankruptcy.

What made the difference was money. Money repaired infrastructure that had been neglected for decades and paid for more police. It created jobs in construction and services. And where did that money come from? Deregulation, and a 17-year bull market that inflated Wall Street salaries, and tax revenues right along with them. Without the financial renaissance, New York might well look a lot more like Detroit or St. Louis.

So contemplate what it will look like if the financial industry gets shrunk down to the size that many are hoping. The last time in the 1930s-1960s, New York had a lot of other businesses: shipping, manufacturing. That’s pretty much ended. New York is now a specialist city: creative industries, finance, and tourism.

The OWS and HP crowd is convinced that by destroying the financial industry there’ll be more room in the city for artists and bongo players but then, how will those fine people pay for the 1/3 of the city’s population that’s on welfare?
11:33 AM on 01/18/2012
Awesome! So it's NYC then, that's the center of the universe? I'm glad I know this now and can stop worrying about the myriad other towns and cities (you know, like Detroit and St. Louis) across the country that are withering and dying due to Wall Street thievery and excess. What a relief! I guess I should pack my bongos and move to the Big Apple now, and abandon the terminally ill fabric of the town I live in for the verdant pastures of the city! Wow, this is great! AND I can take it easy for a while until I get settled, because Wall Street will support my welfare status when I get there! It really IS the American Dream, isn't it?! Maybe soon I could also rise to become a well to do isolationist and narcissist just like you! What a relief in these times to know all this opportunity awaits anyone who just bothers to move to the Emerald City that's supported by these generous patriarchs! You rock! Thanks for the 411! See you soon neighbor!
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behavingbadly
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12:03 PM on 01/18/2012
Sarcasm served hot. I love it. #4
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12:26 PM on 01/18/2012
New York State has historically had the largest balance of payments deficit with the federal government, paying out more in taxes than it receives back in federal aid. In 2008, the biggest surplus of federal aid went to Virginia, Kentucky, Maryland, Alabama, Arizona, South Carolina, Mississippi, Michigan, Florida and New Mexico, in that order. It is not just New York that would feel the impact of a smaller financial industry.

Personal attacks over facts. Typical.
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olitenup
11:38 AM on 01/18/2012
You know...I really do not care about NYC's finances, as someone who lives in the mid-west. Those Wall Streeters have cost my community, my family, my friends, my neighbors mightily. Many in my community have had to tap into welfare, they had already paid into, btw, because of the narcissistic and greedy going- ons in NYC.
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akitadave
06:59 AM on 01/18/2012
It will be interesting to see how much of this money is used to feed the vultures in Washington DC.
11:41 AM on 01/18/2012
Sharks don't share the kill they swallow with the gulls. No, that stuff floats around on a different line item under "expenses" or maybe "overhead". Fortunately for the gulls, sharks are very good at finding prey, and tend to leave a lot of scraps from their gluttonous method of devouring things.
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04:16 AM on 01/18/2012
One other thought that crossed my mind and forgot to mention - it would be interesting to see what the gun and rifle/weapons purchases of all these big bonus folks are in the last few years through the whole country - my guess they are majority repubs and they are paraniod somebody will think they are way too greedy, and they buy guns/weapons for a hobby...sure. Of course if they want with all the big bonuses they can just buy/rent their own security companies...maybe new business for Blackwater!
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04:12 AM on 01/18/2012
Anyone want a Math Economics Project? What is the total of the "unusual circumstances/bad timing" bonuses that look so crooked or smell so bad due to just not really having earned them under the current scenrios over the last 20 years by all businesess and local/state/fed gov (including contractors) with a minimu of say $100K average bonus given out by the company at the award time? I remember hearing of a big electric and gas power company for a large state giving all their top management real big bonuses right before a law suit that won landed against them for gouging (kind of min-Enron gouging). My guess why they had the gall to do that as their millions of customers probably were hundreds of dollars less in their family budgets due to those managers, is because they knew after they paid the settlement their accountants/CEO would not give another bonus for a couple years since they are so high profile and it would leak out if they kept giving them. My guess for that homework answer - About a couple $trillion.
12:43 AM on 01/18/2012
honestly what is happening is the same thing that happens at fast food and such. you work there and then at lunch break most people will get something to eat there for free just well on wallstreet its our money they eat and they are hungry!
as for spreading the wealth of course it needs to be done, but it needs to be done right. as for the right way of doing there is none why withen 4 years the wealth would have made its way back to the top. what needs to be done is a repeat process every what 10 years have a spread done its just like the game monopoly if you think about it.....pass go collect $200 because what happens when all the money ends in one persons hand and you have no pass go.... well thats how our economy works. now tell me how did we manage to not get something like that in our economy.... making it worse monopoly is set up so that the money does end up in one persons hand..... can anybody say a kick to wallstreets balls, errrrrr, goldstealers&sack of your money
11:14 PM on 01/17/2012
Well, people complain and complain yet do nothing. All YOU have to do is take your account, savings as well as any loans you have to a CREDIT UNION. you use it just like a bank, you can use it ANYWHERE in the country, AND YOU OWN IT. So, as far as I am concerned, I will watch these BANKS go out of business and enjoy it. The rest of you. . . Have a little cheese with that wine. . . I don't want to hear it.
12:51 PM on 01/18/2012
No, at least not in the numbers it will take to change things. And the power elite know this! They plan it this way! So you see, the Matrix is alive! The people are cowed, tired and under control. They are given the information "that they need", and are allowed to believe they are still controlling things, but they control nothing at this point. The sad irony is that, in fact, they have the power to control it. They are all wearing ruby slippers but don't really realize it. All social change is just a matter of enough collective agreement. There will, of course have to be a martyr (great social change always has it's martyr - Abraham Lincoln, Ghandi, JFK, MLK, etc.), and most are not willing to take this responsibility (a different form of apathy) either. In time though, it will come. We have not reached bottom yet. It may take a new American fascist regime (President Cheney maybe?) to drive us to the tipping point, but it will happen. These cycles have been playing themselves out since humans formed societies. Let's hope that we have evolved enough to make it peaceful this time. I close with a martyrs quote that sums it up nicely - "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy
10:37 PM on 01/17/2012
It's not the employee's fault that Goldman can't steal as much.
08:12 PM on 01/17/2012
It is funny to hear some of the pro "Fraud Streeters" chime in regarding "everyone hating them", no one really hates them, and hate is a strong word. What most rightly believe is that Fraud Street is in fact rife with corruption, and abuse. They must be held to account for their deeds...as would anyone else, no hand slaps, no PR BS, jail time and stiff fines for "Fraud Street"!!!!
08:07 PM on 01/17/2012
GOP and Democratic parties, both have failed miserably, both are beholden to "Fraud Street" kickbacks I mean lobbying.
06:54 PM on 01/17/2012
What a surprise the banks are rewarding failure...who would of guessed? I wish I had a job that I could suck at and still get huge bonuses. This is whats wrong with this economy and it's NOT unions, nor government wotkers making too much money..it's rewarding failure.
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viper1ex19
IF IT’S FUN…….IT’S PROBABLY ILLEGAL….
07:38 PM on 01/17/2012
Yeah,,, No$hit,,,

I would be a 1%er if I got paid for fn up. lol
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loki
Better to die fighting, than live on knees
06:46 PM on 01/17/2012
we need freedom fighter snipers on the roof tops on wallstreet. These wall streeters are just terrorist in suits using money as a deadly weapon, destroying America as fast as they can. And I wouldnt have a problem if the urniated on them afterwards either.
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viper1ex19
IF IT’S FUN…….IT’S PROBABLY ILLEGAL….
06:54 PM on 01/17/2012
You got it,,
They can hurt more people with one swipe of an ink pen than any one of us with a bazooka.
12:05 AM on 01/18/2012
no don't do that:) we dont need the corpogovt blowing us up with a nuke because more than 1 person infact anybody unincoporated agrees with you lol
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Norma Ward
05:54 PM on 01/17/2012
As shown in this article, the Congressional Budget Office found that banking industry executives, managers, supervisors and financial professionals accounted for 60 percent of the increase in income accruing to the top 1 percent in America between 1979 and 2005:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2011/10/income-inequality-in-america-1-percent.html

Apparently, too much is never enough of a good thing for the top of the income heap in the United States.
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Andrew Nutra
05:15 PM on 01/17/2012
No matter how bad or good you have it, there will always be people below you who are jealous and will demand to spread the wealth.
05:09 PM on 01/17/2012
I just don't get it....companies have cut back, slice and diced, sacrificed...but GS still throws money on its employees like never before. Somebody please tell me why our money was wasted on this cancer on American society?
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kvanness
Follow the money and the rest will make sense
05:22 PM on 01/17/2012
"Somebody please tell me why our money was wasted on this cancer on American society?"

Our elected officials love Wall Street's campaign dollars.
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Andrew Nutra
05:23 PM on 01/17/2012
Which politicians gave the money to GS, and who voted for those politicians?