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Elmhurst College Sexual Orientation Question: 5 Percent Of Applicants Identify As LGBT

Elmhurst College Sexual Orientation

First Posted: 01/18/12 11:43 AM ET Updated: 01/18/12 11:43 AM ET

Currently in the midst of its first-ever application cycle where it has asked prospective students to identify their sexual orientation or gender identity if they felt comfortable doing so, Elmhurst College reports that the vast majority of students have answered the question without hesitation.

Inside Higher Education reports that since the new policy began last fall at the private liberal arts school located in the western suburbs of Chicago, thought to be the first American campus to ask a question of the kind, about 5 percent of applicants have identified themselves as LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender).

Although some critics were concerned that the question would either make applicants feel uncomfortable or entice some straight students to pass themselves off as LGBT for a crack at the school's diversity "enrichment scholarship," worth one-third of Elmhurst's $29,994 tuition, the school's admissions dean Gary Rold said they have not run into these sorts of issues to date.

The new policy is intended to let prospective LGBT students know they are welcome at Elmhurst College. Rold said in August, when it was introduced, that the new question was part of the school's commitment to "looking at diversity in all of its forms." If students choose not to answer the question, they have the option of skipping it altogether.

"We took this step in an effort to better serve each of our students as a unique person," Elmhurst President S. Alan Ray explained in a statement. "It also allows us to live out our commitments to cultural diversity, social justice, mutual respect among all persons and the dignity of every individual."

According to the Chicago Tribune, of the 109 applicants who identified themselves as LGBT, 63 were accepted to the school. It is estimated that between 85 and 90 percent of prospective students responded to the question, which appears in a series of questions asking applicants about their religious affiliation, languages other than English spoken in their home and other factors.

Other schools are reportedly also considering adding their own comparable questions, most notably Harvard University. In November, the Harvard Crimson reported that the school was contemplating the question as a means to "send a positive signal to students who are grappling with the issue of [sexual orientation] or gender identity."

While The Common Application, a standard document used by over 450 colleges and universities, has also considered the question, the group's board of directors ultimately rejected the idea last year as some feared that it could cause anxiety for some students during their already stressful college application process.

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08:51 AM on 01/19/2012
What would be more interesting is to poll this same class at the end of their scholastic career and see what percentage is queer! I didn't make up my mind until I was in college.
06:34 PM on 01/18/2012
Who said the percentage was 10% gay and lesbian? I heard the study was from Kinsey but the results were very skewed due to the population he used for his study. I have heard 5 % is more accurate. I have also heard that more men are gay than women are lesbian but not sure if that is true or not. If a student put down he was gay to win the scholarship and then he found himself a girl friend it would look rather odd. I suppose he could just say he was bi but just never could find the right guy.
Justin Werner
"And so it will make us mad."
07:05 PM on 01/18/2012
I believe the 10% figure comes from Kinsey's research. Kinsey actually did use a varied population, though, and his work was lengthy and extensive. I'm a gay man, I have a hard time believing a figure that high for Kinsey 6's, but I can easily believe a value of 3-5%. Of course, that's a purely subjective, a guess based on long observation (30-some years) and assuming that my gaydar is reasonably accurate :-)

I would like to see Kinsey's work revisited and updated. It won't happen, though. I think too many people have vested interests in claiming this or that % and wouldn't want any pesky research, statistics and facts to get in the way.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
08:36 PM on 01/18/2012
A small chance at a small scholarship really wouldn't outweigh the risk LGBT people go through all the time.

Also, 10 percent LGBT would be pretty conservative, (Where to draw the line about bisexuality is an interesting question: bi-identified people aren't as common as the probably great number of people that aren't at one extreme end or the other on that Kinsey scale.)

Considering who has the *real* incentive to be in the 'decline to answer' category, especially, I don't think you can chalk this up to one scholarship when so many others are based on things like 'Christian values' or the like.
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John Harlan
04:07 PM on 01/18/2012
It's outrageous that this question is on any application for anything.
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mrld20
04:13 PM on 01/18/2012
Or it promotes diversity? What are you an Evangelical? lol
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onionboy
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12:32 AM on 01/19/2012
"...if they felt comfortable doing so..."

"...the vast majority of students have answered the question without hesitation."

What's the problem exactly?
02:28 PM on 01/18/2012
A liberal arts degree will probably in this depressed economy will not do you any good.
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mrld20
04:12 PM on 01/18/2012
On the contrary employers want a well rounded education :P
05:29 PM on 01/18/2012
It is better than not having one for sure. I hope it works out for the students.
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persuter
06:48 PM on 01/18/2012
Employers, particularly for high-paying jobs, generally want a very particular degree. Yes, it's nice if you aren't completely stupid outside your degree, but if I want a job as a computer programmer, a "well-rounded" English degree is going to lose every time to someone with a comp sci degree.
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MartiniVirtuoso
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01:04 PM on 01/18/2012
If 5% identified as LGBT, imagine how many actually are.
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knotsonorml
04:31 PM on 01/18/2012
Probably about 10%. Statistically speaking, homosexuality occurs in about 1 in 10 births. Almost identical to Left Handed people. About 10% are born left handed. Although, we all know that being left handed is a choice, and that if they pray hard enough they could become right handed,,,,,,,
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MartiniVirtuoso
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05:05 PM on 01/18/2012
Very good! And you know that at one time conservative religions did believe that left-handness was evil and corrected children who tried to write or do things with their left hands? For real. But the eventually realized that it was just an alternative orientation. Who knew?
Justin Werner
"And so it will make us mad."
07:07 PM on 01/18/2012
Yep, imagine. Enough to actually be a distinct minority in the wider population. Maybe even enough to eventually have all their rights recognized by society as it matures.
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japhya1
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12:45 PM on 01/18/2012
What differences does it make as to how many homosexuals are attending a particular college? Are they going to give special treatment to gays? Are they going to offer a course that gays only are interested in? What really is the reason for this? It's stuff like this that makes our youth think that being gay today is the in thing.
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LoyalBob
God is more vast than the Bible.
01:39 PM on 01/18/2012
The "in" thing? Interesting perspective. Irritatingly wrong, but interesting nonetheless.
03:58 PM on 01/18/2012
Most Universities already offer LGBT oriented courses, such as history or literature. Anyone can take the courses, not just gay people. It's a way to teach diversity, inclusion and acceptance. Also, it is ok to be gay. After all, that's the way God made them. If people have a problem with the fact that people are born gay, they should take it up with their higher power, and learn not to judge others.
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japhya1
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05:33 PM on 01/18/2012
Lady, I truly believe that some people are born with too many hormones from the opposite sex. But, when gaydom is thrust down the the throats of young impressionable children daily, curiosity gets the best of them. When I was going up, I was fully aware of homosexuality, but it wasn't constantly in my face. As for judging; everybody judges, so cut the bullsh*t. If yo don't judge at all, you need to be hanging out with Yahweh God, because he alone is perfect.
12:41 PM on 01/18/2012
why does any one have to identify themselves ---at all
back in the day where it was supposed everyone was straight--it was never asked---so why now?

sexual orientation/experience or lack thereof is personal and shld remain so ...

always hated that mentality of outing people---ones private business is just that--PRIVATE
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StevenWells
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03:12 PM on 01/18/2012
From the article: "...asked prospective students to identify their sexual orientation or gender identity if they felt comfortable doing so..."

It's entirely optional; no one's getting outed. But you raise an interesting point: "...back in the day where it was supposed everyone was straight--­it was never asked..."

But they weren't all straight, and now we know better. And one of the ways we know things like this is talking - and asking - about them. And what could be wrong with any educational institution wanting to better understand its students?
04:08 PM on 01/18/2012
The problem with assuming that everyone is straight is that gays couldn't just be accepted for who they were. Generations of people stayed in the closet out of fear if they came out. This is a step in the right direction toward acceptance and removing the fear and stigma of being gay. Universities should enlighten it's students.
04:36 PM on 01/18/2012
naive as it maybe --is there really such a stigma? we know gays exist
as for fear and stigma---perhaps in little po-dunk towns where i find it hard to believe there are people who do not know or have never come across a gay individuals

guess b/c i live in ny and few who are in the closet as most are living openly and the only one closeted is anyone ignoring what might seem plainly visible to many

thankfully most young people these days live openly wether gay/straight/bi having and maintaining relationships w/ both sexes and feel its how it will continue to be in the future---just antiquated ways of thinking that holds many back as for stigmas that will always be there or does someone believe it will go away racism hasn't
Zippy1169
An Ever Evolving Man
12:06 PM on 01/18/2012
I'm impressed 5% would volunteer that information. I know I wouldn't have done so as I was deep in the closet.

My one big problem with this is having it on an application with no laws against discriminating against gays makes me very uncomfortable even today. Could this come back to haunt a student? What if at some point the school put in restrictions to how many gays they wanted. What if an individual Admissions Counselor have hidden prejudice.

It seems to me this would be better as a follow up survey of accepted students.

In this actual case it is a college that seems to want to increase their diversity which is great, I am just wondering if it could be a slippery slope.
01:37 PM on 01/18/2012
I would hope the information would be used only to promote inclusion and diversity, but even on our forms under demographic information we state: "The items with a gray background are optional. No information you provide will be used in a discriminatory manner"
Zippy1169
An Ever Evolving Man
02:09 PM on 01/18/2012
Yes. I filled out a form like that today. That was asking race questions. I hate those sections but I alway wonder.... if I don't fill this out will it count against me. So I go ahead and do. That awkward pressure with this type of question is, in my opinion, not a good thing. Again, I don't think this school is using it negatively, in fact it appears the opposite, but it just seems slippery to me.
04:11 PM on 01/18/2012
I wondered the same thing; however, I bet eventually it will provide a better understanding of the actual percentage of the population that is actually gay. I have always heard that it's 10%, but have often wondered if that was a low ball figure.
Zippy1169
An Ever Evolving Man
04:52 PM on 01/18/2012
Totally Low. But I highly doubt in my lifetime that number could be accurate because of everyone in the closet.