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Porn Industry: Leaving LA Is A Possibility If Condoms Become Required

Porn Industry Leaving La

JOHN ROGERS   01/18/12 02:37 PM ET  AP

LOS ANGELES — Some of the most prominent purveyors of porn say they'll start packing up their sex toys and abandoning the nation's Porn Capital if authorities really do carry through with a nascent effort to police their movie sets and order that every actor be outfitted with a condom.

That effort took a serious leap forward Tuesday when the Los Angeles City Council voted 9-1 to grant final approval to an ordinance that would deny film permits to producers who do not comply with the condom requirement. The measure now goes to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa for approval.

Before the measure can take effect, however, the council has called for the creation of a committee made up of police officials, the city attorney, state health officials and others to determine how it might be enforced.

"It's going to be interesting to see how in fact they do try to enforce it and whose going to fund it and all of the time and effort they're going to spend," said Steven Hirsch, co-founder and co-chairman of Los Angeles-based Vivid, one of the largest makers of erotic movies.

"Ultimately I think what they will find is people will just stop shooting in the city of Los Angeles," added Hirsch. "That's a given."

His company, founded in 1984, would be among those that would consider leaving, he said.

Other industry officials condemned the measure as an unneeded exercise in political correctness that cannot be enforced in the city known in the industry as the Porn Capital of the country.

"The only thing that the city could potentially achieve is losing some film permit money and driving some productions away, but you can't actually compel an industry to create a product that the market doesn't want," said Christian Mann, general manager of Evil Angel, another of the industry's largest production companies.

The ordinance would require filmmakers pay a permit fee, the amount of which is still to be determined. The money would be used to pay for surprise inspections at film shoots. Who would carry out those inspections is to be determined by the committee the City Council is setting up.

Mann said smaller productions involving only a handful of people can probably fly under the radar and just ignore the permitting requirement. Larger ones, he said, will likely just leave town.

Approximately 90 percent of U.S. porn films are made in Los Angeles, almost all of them in the city's San Fernando Valley, said Mark Kernes, senior editor of Adult Video News. When films, Internet downloads, sex toys and admission to dance clubs are counted, Kernes said, it's an industry that produces about $8 billion a year in revenue.

It has been battered in recent years, however, by the recession and the increased popularity of free Internet porn, and Kernes and others say requiring condoms would further erode business.

They say consumers, particularly those overseas, have made it clear they won't watch films when the actors use condoms, complaining that it is distracting and ruins the fantasy.

Ged Kenslea, spokesman for the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, said the measure is needed because the industry has failed to properly police itself. For years, he said, filmmakers have ignored state health laws mandating the use of condoms when workers are exposed to blood borne pathogens.

"Let's make one thing clear: Condom use on adult film sets is and has been the law in California under blood borne pathogens regulations," he said. "It is just a law that has not been uniformly enforced or followed. This film permit ordinance that the City Council approved today provides another enforcement mechanism to make sure that adult film producers are complying with existing California law."

The council's second and final vote to approve the law was taken without public discussion on a day when most of the porn industry's major players were in Las Vegas preparing for Wednesday's opening of the Adult Entertainment Expo, their industry's largest trade event. They said they weren't surprised to hear the news, however.

The ordinance will not affect unincorporated areas of Los Angeles County, but Kenslea noted his organization is gathering petition signatures for a ballot initiative that would require condoms on porn films shot throughout the entire county. The City Council passed its condom ordinance after his group gathered enough signatures to put the issue on the ballot in Los Angeles.

If condoms are required on film shoots throughout the county, several filmmakers said they'll likely just go to neighboring counties. The Los Angeles bedroom community of Simi Valley, for example, is in Ventura County but only a 10-minute drive from the west San Fernando Valley, where many porn films are now made.

Condoms aren't needed, filmmakers say, because the industry already polices itself. Production companies require that actors be tested for sexually transmitted diseases a minimum of every 30 days when they are working.

Industry officials say no cases of HIV have been directly linked to porn films since 2004, adding they fear if the industry scatters to areas outside of Los Angeles that testing could fall by the wayside, exposing performers to more risk.

"If someone is going to catch an STD it's usually out of the business because we are tested so often," said veteran porn actress and producer Tabitha Stevens.

In her 17 years in the business, Stevens said, she has worked both with and without condoms. Although she prefers to use condoms, acknowledging they do increase safety, she said the choice should be left up to the performers and not mandated by a government agency.

"If you want to wear them, wear them. If you don't, don't. That's up to the talent to decide. It shouldn't be up to the government to decide," she said.

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coolhandfreak
Sarcasm is anger's evil twin
05:37 PM on 01/21/2012
The porn industry will zig and zag away from such mandates. These ''actors'' make good money for their ''talents'' but must face a loser's lottery if they catch a life altering disease.
RickinBoca
Thats my opinion and I could be...
05:22 PM on 01/19/2012
The answer is lesbian porn!!
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coolhandfreak
Sarcasm is anger's evil twin
05:35 PM on 01/21/2012
You can transfer STD's including HIV via lesbian sex as well.
RickinBoca
Thats my opinion and I could be...
10:44 PM on 01/25/2012
Far less likely
02:11 PM on 01/19/2012
Hmmm....They'll find somewhere else to do business...like it or not. I'm betting there are may parents of daughter's in this business out there....that will be happy & relieved if their daughters do leave this business. Most porn stars are habitual drug...and alcohol users. Which is a whole different story. Either way....to each....his own ( opinion & choice).
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
03:41 PM on 01/19/2012
That "somewhere else" is a 20-minute drive...Ventura County, Orange County. They won't even have to move offices...just shoot locations. This ordinance will do nothing and will not change a single person's involvement in this business. It's just for show.

Plus the p0rn business is already going out of business from what I understand. Every John & Mary from all over the country is filming and posting in their own home. No ordinance will curb that. P0rn is everything you say, but it's not going anywhere.
05:09 PM on 01/19/2012
Yes...what you're saying is true. I'm in my mid 60's and have never been involved in this industry in any way. However, I've seen many people's live's (families) destroyed from all that goes with it...drug & alcohol addiction, prostitution, violent crimes & criminal records, etc... Some people have no idea what they're getting into....it can be a very destructive/addictive lifestyle. If you don't have some stability, or someone you can trust to keep you 'on the right track'....chances are it won't be a happy/healthy existence. Like most things in life.....if make bad choices...you can be risking alot more than $$$ . People getting into this business, (especially young girls)...should have professional help....for mental,monetary, physical security.
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Cassandra L Chapa
11:03 AM on 01/19/2012
"If you want to wear them, wear them. If you don't, don't. That's up to the talent to decide. It shouldn't be up to the government to decide,"

I agree. If someone wants to put themselves at risk, that's thier deal. The condoms would be required for STD purposes, but that's what the tests are for. They're already doing something to same effect, so what's the point?
02:43 PM on 01/19/2012
Talent?
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earto44
Defender of planet Erf.
07:25 AM on 01/19/2012
Smaller film crews do not require a filming permit. Especially if you don't use a generator. With a Canon 5D MK2 or RED these productions can shrink in crew size, and not require a filming permit.

So, these new guidelines will remove the fees that the City has been collecting for years, millions of dollars, and force this type of production to hire less people. The city has taken two large steps backwards. Not very smart.
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AmosKnows
11:47 PM on 01/18/2012
I don't support porn - are you kidding me? This is what they are concerned about? Maybe they should look around and see what's going on in their state?

"Hey do you have any real solutions for the real problems?"

"No but we're going to regulate porn stars. Fabulous."
08:43 PM on 01/18/2012
All the good porn comes from Brazil anymore anyways.
02:13 AM on 01/19/2012
You mean the kind of p. with animals or with 3rd gender ? )))))
07:10 PM on 01/18/2012
Maybe they should shoot the films/video in utah, that'd go over great with the mormons
MediaWatchDawg
We're all different & we're all the same
06:37 PM on 01/18/2012
Where can I pick up an application for Code Enforcement?
05:03 PM on 01/18/2012
So like, now that Straight people's sexual practices are going to be outlawed, it's a bad thing. But while it has been a requirement for gay porn for decades, has been just fine.
I see no bias here.
08:10 PM on 01/18/2012
Wow I had no idea it is a requirement for gay porn. How hypocritical!
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noygdb
republiCANTS cant do anything but create fear
03:54 PM on 01/18/2012
ah the wonderful mayor who had an affair...nice to know he wants to force his morality on the porn industry..because they spread aids so much...how many people actually sleep with porn stars? how many sex acts are filmed vs how many actors get hiv? this is silly
03:25 PM on 01/18/2012
The L.A puritan patrol is prowling and pushing more business's out of the state,it's like they sit and think how can we push more business's out of state,in this dire economic times,being cynical makes me believe that's what they want.
03:12 PM on 01/18/2012
The Only Use Of Condom's Ott To Be Our Representatives ..Congress, Senate, State And Locals.. Those Sick Individuals Leave Trails Like Snails They Should Be Responsible For Their Voting Alinement With Corporations And Big Monies For 20 Years After Voting.
(It Should Be A Privilege To Hold Office For The People - Not Make Them Privileged People)
10:36 PM on 01/18/2012
I'm guessing you're a what...COLLEGE grad? What with all of the capitalization/grammar and punctuation problems here? Sell my clothes, I'm goin' to heaven!
02:45 PM on 01/18/2012
If this is passed the filming will go out of the city and/or not get permitted at all. Folks who run porn sites out of there own homes don't get any sort of permits anyway the porn industry as we know it has already been losing market position to these smaller players. Los Angeles has done enough damage pushing Hollywood movies to Canada and to other cities in the US.

We as a society don't legislate that promiscuous people wear protection, which is essentially what this is attempting to do here. If you as an individual don't want to contract HIV aids or any other sexually transmitted disease don't be promiscuous, use protection, and definitely don't do porn. And yes we should have universal single payer health care.

On a side note, nobody wants to see people having sex with condoms on period.
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gsocratesasks
Dammit Gumby!
02:38 PM on 01/18/2012
they don't want jobs in cal.... messes up the welfare state..lol