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After Immigration Crackdown, Farmers Mull Planting

Immigration Farmers Crackdown

KATE BRUMBACK   01/20/12 02:49 PM ET   AP

ATLANTA — It's unclear whether farmers in Georgia and Alabama will face a shortage of workers due to tough new laws targeting illegal immigration, but some producers said they have begun changing their plans for planting and harvesting this year's crops.

Some farmers said they might reduce the number of acres they plant or shift to less labor-intensive crops, while others are bracing for higher labor prices and have turned to new recruiting tools to attract workers.

"We're expecting some shifts, but it's a bit too early to tell," said Charles Hall, executive director of the Georgia Fruit and Vegetable Growers Association.

Georgia and Alabama have approved laws that have tough enforcement provisions that farmers say are scaring migrant workers away from the states.

Since the laws were approved last year, farmers in both states have reported labor shortages because migrant workers aren't showing up and they say they can't find other workers to fill the jobs. Farmers and state officials have said that some produce was left to rot in the field last year because there weren't enough workers to help with the harvest.

Farmers have claimed not enough U.S. citizens want the jobs, but some said the issue is actually that producers won't offer a high enough wage to attract legal workers.

Brett Hall, Alabama's deputy agriculture commissioner, said nurseries across south Alabama are trying to find workers to fill about 2,000 jobs ahead of the spring growing season. Many nursery growers are staffing job fairs in hopes of attracting employees, he said.

Other growers aren't ordering seeds or new equipment because they anticipate a labor shortage, he said.

"Before this law, migrant workers would just show up. They knew when they were needed," Hall said. "That's not happening anymore."

In Georgia, some growers of the state's famed Vidalia onions are planting fewer acres of the labor-intensive crop, which could lead to a roughly 10 percent drop in production, said Bob Stafford, director of the Vidalia Onion Business Council.

Stafford said it's unclear if the smaller crop will mean consumers will pay more for the prized sweet onions because prices are dependent on many factors, including the weather and fuel costs.

Aries Haygood, chairman of the Vidalia Onion Committee, said he has reduced planting by about 15 percent at his farm near Lyons, Ga., because of labor concerns and other factors.

Haygood and some other farmers in both states are using a federal guest worker program, known as H-2A, which lets farmers bring in an unlimited number of temporary agriculture workers.

But some complain it's too expensive and doesn't allow enough flexibility.

Haygood said it's also tough to get the timing just right and sometimes his workers' visas run out before the end of the harvest.

Some members of Georgia's congressional delegation have proposed changes to the H-2A program, notably allowing farmers to provide workers with vouchers to obtain housing nearby rather than being required to provide on-site housing.

Dawson Morton, a lawyer with the Georgia Legal Services Program, dismissed complaints about the guest worker program, arguing the real issue is farmers don't want to pay a legal wage or provide basic housing.

"The H-2A conditions are hardly extravagant," Morton said. "They're so modest that most Americans aren't willing to accept them."

Morton noted that a report by Georgia Agriculture Commissioner Gary Black showed that some farmers believe legal workers are more expensive and won't work as hard.

"Gary Black's report shows that there is an attempt by agriculture to shape policy to get themselves as cheap a labor force as possible," Morton said. "This doesn't look like an industry that's interested in complying with the law or that's interested in paying a legal wage."

Two of the biggest Vidalia farmers, Delbert Bland and R.T. Stanley, said they don't plan to reduce their crops.

Bland has used the federal guest worker program for years, and Stanley said he would likely request a crew of guest workers to supplement his other workers during the height of the harvest.

"I'm getting them planted all right," Stanley said. "But when it gets to be time to harvest them in April or May, I'm concerned."

Rather than reducing acreage, Kent Hamilton, who has vegetable farms near Tifton, Ga., plans to increase his sweet corn, cucumber and bell pepper crops by 15 percent because he thinks other growers will plant less.

Hamilton has used the federal guest worker program for years. He generally brings in about 400 temporary foreign workers but is building more housing to accommodate 515 this year.

Darvin Eason farms blackberries, cotton and peanuts in Lenox, deep in south Georgia.

Cotton and peanuts can be harvested mechanically, but blackberries must be picked by hand, requiring a lot of workers for a period of several weeks.

"If you don't pick them every day, you lose some. They start to fall on the ground," he said.

A relatively small-scale farmer, Eason's 4 acres of bushes produce about 50,000 pounds of berries a year. But having made a hefty investment in the bushes, he can't easily reduce his harvest this year. His labor contractor has already told him he'll likely have to pay higher wages this year because it's going to be tougher to find workers.

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Associated Press writer Jay Reeves in Birmingham, Ala., contributed to this report.

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11:43 PM on 02/18/2012
good, go elsewhere
09:01 AM on 01/23/2012
I wonder what would happen if immigrants (illegal or not) who want to work and find work would become citizens and US citizens who live on welfare in spite of job offers would LOSE citizenship ?

It might be a nice incentive for a lot of people who complain constantly about not having jobs, but prefer to be a burden to the taxpayer rather than get up in the morning to go to work for less than CEO wages.
11:44 PM on 02/18/2012
just stop welfare........and let the chips fall where they may
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1oldhippie
yes, WE can!
08:54 AM on 01/22/2012
So first "corporate" farms put family farms out of business, then the mega farms complain about not being able to sustain themselves? Perhaps they would have been better off contracting with families.
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Viper1st
multi quasi faceted
09:40 AM on 01/23/2012
Many "family farms" have incorporated to protect the heir's position upon the death of the principal(s)
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dispagi
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08:37 AM on 01/22/2012
This is ridiculous. Farmers want labor, and migrants want to work. This is driving up prices at a time when many Americans are having trouble affording basic necessities. First we should allow anyone who wants to work to work. Then eliminate the minimum wage for the agricultural industry and provide basic health care for workers and let's all move on with our lives.
11:07 PM on 01/22/2012
Without the illegals, farmers can still have labor, but the the price will be higher.

The real "war on the middle class" is bring in illegal immigrants so that employers don't have to pay anyone a middle class wage.

It's written nowhere in the Constitution that farmers have a right to poor people so that they don't have to pay higher wages. It's certainly not a law of economics. Any economic textbook, starting with Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations" (Book I Volume I Chapter 10) should tell you that harder, irregular work should receive a higher hourly wage. Farmers want to use illegals to defy the laws of economics.
11:46 PM on 02/18/2012
and who will pay for this basic coverage
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
01:46 AM on 01/22/2012
surreal to me in oz that immigration is the province of states.

are you a nation or just pretending to be one, like the eeu?
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voyager48
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
11:53 AM on 01/22/2012
Immigration laws are there for a reason and US government is seeing the growing backlash and have to deal with it. We had an amnesty in 1986 to deal with things but immigration was not subsequently not enforced. In '86 it was 3 million but now has exploded to between 11 - 20 million illegals who seem to operate with impunity.

This is an enforcement issue first and foremost and without effective enforcement all other arguments are moot.

The same experience is playing out in the EU where research has shown that the benefit of migration has been shown to be educated migrants creating buoyancy in a local economy not uneducated laborers who have a net cost to the economy as has been the case in the US where those costs have to be borne locally through taxes which is why the states are stepping to the vacuum.

There is a significant and growing backlash against illegal immigration worldwide. Denmark has reintroduced border controls, The Netherlands are now charging illegals for the cost of their deportation. Greece is building a border fence to keep illegals out and France, Spain, the UK and Italy are all on a mission to get the illegals out of their countries. Not just the EU either - South Africa is on a drive to get around 4 million illegals back to their home countries
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
12:17 PM on 01/22/2012
tell me about it - france will be moslem in 2020

but it closing the gate after the bull has bolted as usual

am 60 and glad am out of here soon - what a mess
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
12:45 PM on 01/22/2012
ta for the detailed answer - but u didnt address my main point - why does such a federal issue involve state law

i think this goes to the core of why the US is such a mess

folks have been duped by strong state rights

DC bangs on about global this & that - but stateside seems very parochial

am skeptical of studies - many educated ethnics "bouy" the local economy by being the top of the parasitic pile

the white collar front men for the bad boys - cant generalise of course but it sure happens - & the cops & banks & dole office ... need interpreters, immigration agents, fake schools,indentured labor contractors - better a bilingual w/ awful english than an anglo w/ clear english
12:49 PM on 01/22/2012
It was the ECSC, then the EEC (the Common Market) now the EU but eeu? Missed that one.
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
01:09 PM on 01/22/2012
whatever - thought it was the euro eco union - u know what i mean (seems pedantic & beside the point) , but shall be more careful if u r right
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stuart100s
I started with nothing, & still have most of it.
09:16 PM on 01/21/2012
Why is it that when we are discussing taxes, the libs want to talk about percentages, not total amounts paid? Then when we discuss welfare they want to talk total numbers of whites on assistance and not percentages. Does anyone know?
jstanavgguy
Proud member of the evil 1%
01:25 AM on 01/22/2012
because dollar amounts do not matter.

What matters is percentages. The smaller the percentage, the worse they think they can make someone look.
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stuart100s
I started with nothing, & still have most of it.
02:53 PM on 01/22/2012
I was wondering if they (libs) were just duplicious by nature. It seemed that way but I wasn't sure.
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01:30 AM on 01/22/2012
There stuck on stupid.
05:51 PM on 01/21/2012
Those poor farmers, who claim to be mulling over, planting.....are registered corporations....period. Without the illegals cheap labor....they can't afford to plant their genetically altered crops. Good.....deal.
12:22 PM on 01/21/2012
Farmers in the South being forced to adopt to new labor laws? What is this, 1865?
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Razpooten
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12:19 PM on 01/21/2012
Ah the incredible costly tomato.
12:44 PM on 01/21/2012
My,my, you can,t be a farmer .Or are you?
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Razpooten
Nil homini certum est
01:44 PM on 01/21/2012
I'ma tomato lover.
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PLDgyrl
When you realize the Right is wrong turn Left.....
01:54 PM on 01/21/2012
Try growing your own
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Razpooten
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04:01 PM on 01/21/2012
Considering the watering, tending, etc; it is not an efficient method. I do grow them soem time as a hobby.
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BlairCase
10:20 AM on 01/21/2012
Americans agriculture isn't as mechanized as European agriculture because U.S. farmers has relied for decades on undocumented immigrants for cheap labor. Many crops still harvested by machines in Europe are still harvested by hand in the United States. As the undocumented worker disappear, American farmers will adopt by automation, paying higher wages, and using federal programs to legally hire migrant workers on a seasonal basis. Fair wages for farm workers will have little impact on prices at the supermarket. The United States only has about one million farm workers, including undocumented workers. Most of what shoppers pay at supermarkets are processing, packaging, storage, shipping and marketing costs.
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Razpooten
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12:20 PM on 01/21/2012
That is about right.
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
01:53 AM on 01/22/2012
correct - labour & capital are interchangeable mostly
10:06 AM on 01/21/2012
Maybe people living in suburbia will actually plant a vegetable garden. They would have to get over the fake image of perfection, phony California-esque landscaping, etc.. and have something "ugly" in their yard. I don't know if they will do it. And the kids would have to actually work in the garde. OMG, they would get dirty hands.
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Razpooten
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12:24 PM on 01/21/2012
Hard to plant and harvest while texting.
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
01:54 AM on 01/22/2012
we need head down displays
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chevyliddle
what's a micro-bayou?
11:21 PM on 02/18/2012
I don't think suburbanites could get past the natural color of things. You ever see an apple before they paint it red?
10:03 AM on 01/21/2012
And don't tell me about welfare kids needing daycare while parents pick. Kids can pick vegetables­. They would have to pull their pants up so they stop tripping over them and they would have to leave their cell phones behind so that they would actually work as opposed to checking for messages every three or four minutes. Oh, yes, they would also have to learn to work for the first time in their lives.
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Razpooten
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12:24 PM on 01/21/2012
How dreadful!
09:52 AM on 01/21/2012
A few thougts. Maybe, just maybe, welfare recipients could be made to do this work to earn their own money. I know. That's racist. Sorry. Or, maybe, just maybe, we may see the return of small truck gardens in and around our cities, producing fresher, healthier local produce as opposed to industrially grown tomatoes that taste like cardboard. Just a thought. And maybe we could stop the ridiculous suburban sprawl that eats up good farmland. But that would require locking up criminals and shutting down the inner city welfare culture. Hey, that supports my first thought. Just thinking. I hope that's OK with you.
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Pringle62
10:58 AM on 01/21/2012
Dear Fish, some welfare recipients and probably a lot of them are not physically able to do this kind of work.
10:29 AM on 01/23/2012
When it comes down to a choice between working and starving, suddenly these physically incapable people are able to do the work.
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Razpooten
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12:26 PM on 01/21/2012
You are not being racist, you are being a bigot, assuming only one race depends on welfare. A white woman shot herslef and two kids at a food stamps office in Texas several months ago; would you say all white women fall under that category?
bklynsparrow
creating reality from unreal things
01:45 PM on 01/21/2012
thank you!
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PLDgyrl
When you realize the Right is wrong turn Left.....
01:53 PM on 01/21/2012
Actually, It is a racist because it eluded to being thought of as racist meaning the focus of his comment was on some minority group (blacks, hispanics).

Newsflash - THERE ARE MORE WHITE PEOPLE ON WELFARE THAN ANY OTHER GROUP.
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unclecrackre
I think, therefore, I think I am
09:30 AM on 01/21/2012
Oh my God! The farmers are sweating because now, in order to get American workers to work on the farms, they will actually have to pay them a decent wage! How horrible!
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Razpooten
Nil homini certum est
12:27 PM on 01/21/2012
You want decent wages or cheap vegetables? Can't have both.
02:38 PM on 01/21/2012
I want decent wages and a clear conscience.
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TggerJen
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02:48 PM on 01/21/2012
Actually, decent wages for people doing that important work harvesting our produce wouldn't change the prices much at all.

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/08/17/could-farms-survive-without-illegal-labor/the-costs-and-benefits-of-a-raise-for-field-workers?scp=1&sq=costs%20of%20illegal%20farm%20labor&st=cse
(emphasis added)
Calculating the Costs and Benefits
Philip Martin, a labor economist at the University of California, Davis, is the author, most recently, of “Importing Poverty? Immigration and the Changing Face of Rural America.”
Updated September 30, 2011, 7:04 PM
Americans spend relatively little on food, and relatively little of what they spend represents the cost of farm workers....
Even when packing costs for fresh produce are negligible — strawberries are packed directly into the containers in which they are sold, and iceberg lettuce gets its film wrapper in the field — farmers and farm workers receive only a small share of the grocery store sticker price. In 2006, farmers received an average of 30 percent of the retail price of fresh fruits and 25 percent of the retail price of fresh vegetables, so consumer expenditures on fresh produce meant $118 to the farmer. Farm labor costs are typically less than a third of farm revenue for fresh fruits and vegetables, meaning that farm worker wages and benefits for fresh fruits and vegetables cost the average household $38 a year....

If the influx of immigrant workers were slowed or stopped and farm wages rose, what would happen to expenditures on fresh fruits and vegetables? A case study from 1966 could give us some idea.

That year, the United Farm Workers union won a 40 percent wage increase for some table grape harvesters... If pressure to verify employees’ legal status resulted in a labor crisis similar to the one in 1966 and a similar 40 percent wage increase, average hourly earnings would rise to $14.10. If this were passed on to consumers, the 10 cent farm labor cost of a pound of apples would rise to 14 cents, and the $1 retail price would rise to $1.04.

... If farm wages rose 40 percent, and this wage increase were passed on to consumers, average spending on fresh fruits and vegetables would rise about $15 a year, the cost of two movie tickets. However, for a typical seasonal farm worker, a 40 percent wage increase could raise earnings from $10,000 for 1,000 hours of work to $14,000 — lifting the wage above the federal poverty line.
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Pax333
01:20 PM on 01/21/2012
Did you not notice the domino effect while reading the article, crackre?

On one hand everyone will pay more because their will be less produce but everything from seed on up are being purchased in small quantities reducing income for any number of people from seed and fertilizer suppliers to the truckers and the those who maintain the trucks.

Less affordable food grown in the states so less work for a large number of Americans so fewer dollars to be spent meaning fewer jobs but more produce brought in from other countries, like, say, Mexico.

The irony fairy is laughing herself silly, what fools we humans be.
12:53 AM on 01/21/2012
GEE! Isn't that terrible? The wages will have to rise, farmers will have to pay a decent wage, provide good housing, water, etc.. instead of simply getting them as slave labor. I hope that the pro-illegals will come out and denounce the government for those terrible wrongs! How about it folks? Don't youi want to restore the semi-slavery of the past?
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Pax333
01:22 PM on 01/21/2012
I wonder how many people read your post on their i-pad, randy? Of course they want semi-slavery, how else would they get everything they want and need at as cheap a price as possible? They, we, just don't want to know about it, that's what other countries are for.
bklynsparrow
creating reality from unreal things
01:47 PM on 01/21/2012
Exactly. That nice new shiny Ipad- who would think the people who make them in China work under such rotten conditions? Apple does know, however.
08:18 PM on 01/21/2012
If you read the article by an Anglo who worked in the fields at the time the UFW was strongest, he pointed out that the average crew worker in the UFW fields earned about $50/hr in 2010 dollars. He made enough money during the harvest season, he did not have to work the rest of the year. It is well within the ability of farmers to make money and pay a very good wage to their workers without food prices shooting up.