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In South Carolina, The Plot To 'Welfarize' Unemployment Insurance


First Posted: 01/20/12 09:16 AM ET Updated: 01/20/12 10:26 AM ET

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- Republicans in South Carolina, including the presidential candidates campaigning there this week, think Thomas Ritter should have to pee in a cup to prove he won't waste his unemployment insurance money on drugs.

Ritter, a single dad with two kids, said he doesn't use illegal substances and didn't lose his job because of them. He doesn't think unemployed people should have to put up with drug testing "unless you can show where it has affected their ability to perform on their job."

Ritter, 45, said he used to work as a mechanic for the Air Force and served in Desert Storm. He's been drawing $273 a week in unemployment insurance since June 2011, when he said a knee injury cost him his job as a maintenance technician for the Postal Service.

"Just to arbitrarily invade someone's personal life to any degree should be a constitutional violation," Ritter said after filing his weekly claim at the Midlands Workforce Center here on Wednesday. "Unless they have them in a program already, showing that drugs or whatever they took affected their performance on the job, then it's not proper."

The politicians pushing drug testing disagree. In South Carolina, where the unemployment rate is is 9.9 percent, well above the national average of 8.5 percent, Republicans want the nation's toughest requirements: blanket drug testing of every applicant for unemployment benefits and compulsory volunteer work for the long-term jobless.

"I think we have a responsibility to be very conscientious on how we spend the dollars we take out of the taxpayer's pocket," state Sen. Kevin Bryant (R-Anderson), a leading proponent of drug testing, said in an interview.

The Republican presidential candidates also support drug testing. Newt Gingrich said he favors it for any type of government assistance. So does Rick Perry, who dropped out of the race on Thursday and endorsed the former House speaker. While former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney hasn't talked about drug testing, he does advocate radical changes to the unemployment insurance system. And a Romney spokeswoman sent The Huffington Post a 1994 news clip that said Romney supported drug testing for people on welfare.

Legislators in several states have proposed or discussed drug testing of jobless people in the past year. The proposals sprouted up alongside a surge in legislation to drug test welfare applicants in no fewer than 30 states.

"It's clearly part of this overall trend to welfarize unemployment," said Elizabeth Lower-Basch, a senior analyst with the Center for Law and Social Policy, a left-leaning Washington think tank. "It's part of this continuing attempt to blame unemployment recipients for being unemployed, as if it's because of their personal failings instead of an unemployment rate above 8 percent. If they can pin the blame on the individual there's no societal responsibility to help out."

In other words, if people drawing unemployment compensation can be stigmatized like welfare recipients were in the 1980s and '90s, the unemployment insurance system could one day be reformed and made much stingier, just like welfare in 1996.

Studies have shown the rate of drug abuse among welfare recipients ranges from about 5 percent to 10 percent -- slightly more than the general population, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. But the department's October 2011 survey of past efforts to weed out welfare drug abusers found no evidence the policies saved money, improved the well-being of children, or helped their poverty-stricken parents get back to work.

Florida is the only state to follow through with full-blown testing of every single welfare applicant, with each person required to pay for the test. The policy lasted four months last year until a federal judge put a stop to it, citing the Constitution's ban on unreasonable search and seizure. Before the injunction, just 2.5 percent of applicants tested positive for drug use. The policy's supporters put forward no credible evidence that the screening saved money for the state, which had to reimburse everyone who passed. Yet several Republicans, including Sen. Bryant in South Carolina and Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.), cite the Florida law when pushing for jobless drug testing. They don't cite any data on drug use among the jobless.

Nevermind that people on welfare differ greatly from people on unemployment, in terms of income. To qualify for welfare, families must be needy, with income levels typically well below the poverty line -- currently $22,350 for a family of four. To be eligible for unemployment, a worker has to have earned sufficient wages prior to being laid off, and the layoff generally can't be a firing for misconduct or a voluntary resignation. The median income of households that received unemployment compensation in 2010 was $55,000 the prior year, and unemployment insurance kept more than 3 million people out of poverty in 2010.

No state currently requires drug testing for unemployment insurance. That's because federal law actually prohibits states from disqualifying workers from receiving benefits for reasons other than on-the-job misconduct, fraud in the claims process, or for making too much money from part-time work.

But state lawmakers itching to test the jobless are in luck, because Republicans in the U.S. Congress want to change the law. They nearly succeeded in December, when the GOP-controlled House of Representatives passed a bill that would have allowed states to do all the testing they want. The bill didn't clear the Senate, but the measure will probably return next month when Congress must once again reauthorize federal unemployment insurance programs.

While polling is scarce, a few surveys suggest that drug testing for welfare recipients, at least, is a popular idea. A 2011 Rasmussen survey found 53 percent of likely voters and 61 percent of Republicans support automatic drug testing for welfare recipients. Seventy-one percent of likely voters in nearby North Carolina support drug testing for public assistance, according to a separate poll by a conservative think tank. And 71 percent of Florida voters said they supported requiring drug tests for welfare.

But there's no survey data on proposals to test the unemployed, and no drug testing surveys of likely voters who don't have jobs. The Huffington Post, in conjunction with Patch.com, sought opinions of unemployed people at employment offices in Columbia and Charleston on Wednesday. For the most part, they said they're not fond of the policy.

At a workforce center in downtown Charleston, Terri Mack, 59, said Wednesday she's been out of work for nearly two years since losing her cashier job. She said she wouldn't have a problem with taking a drug test, but only if she doesn't have to pay for it.

"I don't take no drugs," Mack says. "But I don't have insurance or anything to pay for the tests."

Joseph Richardson, who's been out of work since he lost his job busing tables in August, said he dislikes the proposal: "There are people with jobs that do drugs too, so I really don't see a need for it."

Sabretta Fulton, 31, of Columbia, a mother of one child who was born premature, said her last job as a nursing assistant at a nursing home and has been unemployed since September 2011.

"You shouldn't have to pay for your own drug test to get your own money," Fulton said. "That's your money and you worked for it."

Alphonzo Major, 33, also said he opposes drug testing in an interview at the Columbia workforce center. The single father of two said he's been out of work since losing his job as a prep cook at the University of South Carolina-Beaufort four months ago.

"I don't believe that's fair for anybody," he said of the testing. "They worked hard for it, so why stop them if they have a habit? Why try to cut them off if they pass or fail? It's their money. It's not right."

It is their money, in a sense. While unemployment insurance is funded with taxes on business payrolls -- so it's technically not the workers' money -- many economists say workers would receive that money in wages absent the taxes.

Major doesn't want to pee for his benefits. “I think that's bullshit," he said.

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COLUMBIA, S.C. -- Republicans in South Carolina, including the presidential candidates campaigning there this week, think Thomas Ritter should have to pee in a cup to prove he won't waste his unemploy...
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- Republicans in South Carolina, including the presidential candidates campaigning there this week, think Thomas Ritter should have to pee in a cup to prove he won't waste his unemploy...
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- Republicans in South Carolina, including the presidential candidates campaigning there this week, think Thomas Ritter should have to pee in a cup to prove he won't waste his unemploy...
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- Republicans in South Carolina, including the presidential candidates campaigning there this week, think Thomas Ritter should have to pee in a cup to prove he won't waste his unemploy...
 
 
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Hank10303 02:08 PM on 01/20/2012
If there was any doubt it should be all erased by now. The elected Teapublicans, are attacking the middle class and middle aged workers of America. Men and women that for years worked, provided for their families, maintain their livelihood and collectively ran one of the largest economies in the country. It isn’t rocket science to know that the economy is in a slow recovery because millions that lost  Read More...
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Lee Watters
01:47 PM on 08/12/2012
Make this simple! Let the companies make it a requirement... not controlled by unemployment. If they get fired for drugs then they receive no unemployment anyways... plain, simple, cost effective! Likewise, they already require a week waiting period, for what? If it takes them 4-6 weeks to decide then what is the true reason for the one week they take from you. Throw in this drug testing it will take 8-12 weeks to receive unemployment. They can't even say why it takes the 4-6 weeks. Prime example I know someone who applied on 10 July. It took them a week to get the interview which did nothing more than rehash what was already reported. So on 18 July they send it to the company that is given 48 hours to protest claim, of which they did not. Now it has been 3 weeks sitting on someone's desk. Why are these not being processed? The SC unemployement services are not state run but contracted out!! That's right company owned... Thus, you can't get any information as to when they received money from the businesses. Now if I took money from you, invested it, and deprived you of it for a month and I do this to thousands of people I could earn a good return on my investment. Of course this money would be unreported and heading for the Cayman Islands!!! Likewise, unemployment has decreased but processing time takes longer now?
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jstanavgguy
Proud member of the evil 1%
10:01 AM on 01/23/2012
You are aware that after the state funding is gone, the extended unemployment benefits ARE welfare.

There are not any employee contributions to the fund. it comes from employers
11:22 PM on 01/23/2012
The benefits do not get approved or disqualified through the welfare system; they are unemployment benefits, period! If and only if the routing is changed to a different program, then drug testing can be done legally. Until then, leave my testing cup alone!
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jstanavgguy
Proud member of the evil 1%
04:47 PM on 01/24/2012
However, the comparison is this - after state benefits run out, they are paid through the federal government. The federal government transfers money to the states for extended unemployment benefits. Several states have declined the extensions.

To be perfectly honest, unemployment is welfare from the standpoint that the employees do not contribute to the fund.
02:38 PM on 01/22/2012
This drug testing thing is BS. It's a waste of tax payer money and another slap in the face for honest people just trying to get by in an already hopeless situation. Unemployment insurance is not free and it's not welfare. Quit picking on the powerless and do the job you were hired to do, that is, get people back to work and give them the assistance they have paid for and are entitled to! I think we need to drug test member's of Congress, because their ability to do their jobs is already questionable!
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Sundalecat
We love Obama!, by an angry White Man
11:52 PM on 01/21/2012
F the Republicans I could careless who wins this Clown Show.
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dspcowb
04:11 PM on 01/21/2012
The beat goes on and he's so wrong. I would've starved without food stamps. I'm 62 years old and I got laid off of my filing temp job with NYC in the Dept Of Housing. I was able to support myself with money I earned that the government kept for me. Aren't we entitled to food and medical care as we look for work. In my case I decided to retire. I'm disabled in a number of ways. I've always been blue collar. I'm a rock and roll musician and I've always worked blue collar jobs and jobs no one else wanted to do. Because I didn't want a carreer in anything but music. So I kept with the menial jobs and played as often as I could. And now I have artificial hips. LA County Hospital implanted two new ones for me gratis. It was an experimental operation. It worked very well and I'm very grateful. But my body is shot from being blue collar. When I couldn't work anymore the government supported me. It gave me the freedom to indulge in my art. Isn't that the Pursuit of Happiness that's in the Constitution and The Bill of Rights?
I'm not "ripping off," anybody. I'm getting back what the government collected for me to give back to me when the time came. I resent deeply anyone insinuating that if I take advantage of what I worked for that I'm a parasite and welfare fraud.
12:46 PM on 01/22/2012
obviously bad choices on your part...but take comfort you're not alone. but we are thinning you people out...it was bound to happen.
02:41 PM on 01/22/2012
Wow, take pleasure in your inhumanity, because someday, somehow, you are gonna get old, or sick, or fired, and your humanity is gonna start to show, and maybe, with a little luck, somebody younger and smarter and healthier, can mock you to make themselves feel invincible for a little while.
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margaritamayhem
Republicans - Vote them all out!
02:50 PM on 01/22/2012
I'm sorry your Mother never hugged you as a child. You have my pity.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
02:19 PM on 01/21/2012
"Provide for the general welfare" Isn't it interesting how the plutocrats have made welfare a bad thing.

Our economic system, is a human construction, with flaws, like concentration of wealth in too few hands, leading to crashes and poverty for the 99%. Automation and lax regulations just makes that worse.

Progressive income tax and strong regulation is the cure.

The whole drug war thing was Nixon and the FBI under Hoover to destroy the peace loving, anti war hippie movement, and it worked. The war on drugs is world wide crime against humanity. Destroying lives, livelihoods, rights and peace. Lots of these professional hypocrites have done drugs but now want us to go to prison and lose everything if we do.

Use drug legalization, at least pot, as a one of you litmus tests for voting.

You think both parties are the same, yet it's the GOP trying to take you right to vote away. They won't legalize pot, they will just talk about it to win votes.

Vote smarter. Vote for the Anti war liberals and progressives.

Don't be confused by the Clinton DLC moderate republicans, they also are for Reaganomics, trickle down and the Tories. Also called New democrats, pragmatic Progressive, Blue dogs, New American Foundation, Progressive Policy Council, Third Way..

The Warren Kucinich, Grayson CPC progressive are the real Founder type progressive liberals. Vote for them in the primaries
01:54 PM on 01/21/2012
I wonder how many people that are great employees, always going the extra mile, have gotten fired simply because they CHOSE to smoke a joint on the weekend. And now when they're unemployed, they have to endure this humiliation in order to feed their family? What country is this?
04:26 PM on 01/21/2012
It is the country where wall street scammers (no strangers to Illegal drugs) get paid massive bonuses even when they are screwing up. We don't drug test them.
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N Rathke
I march for the grandmas who can't
05:59 PM on 01/21/2012
I will allow them to collect their millions if they share with the rest of us. And I mean SHARE!
09:53 AM on 01/21/2012
"Newt Gingrich said he favors (drug testing) for any type of government assistance. So does Rick Perry,". OK then the executives of the following organizations need to get a cup ready; Halliburton, Boeing, GE, Caterpillar, Exxon/Mobil, ADM, Verizon, Lockheed, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Chase Bank, Ally Bank, Frito Lay, Proctor and Gamble, General Foods, CVS/Caremark, Walgreens... Need I go on?
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pattio66
Here's your hat, what's your hurry?
09:30 AM on 01/21/2012
Okay folks, one more time: unemployment insurance benefits are not the same thing as welfare. They're insurance benefits for which the premiums were paid for the very purpose of protecting those who lose their jobs due to no fault of their own. Why is this difficult to comprehend?
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brensgrrl
Viam aut inveniam aut faciam
03:51 PM on 01/21/2012
They definitely aren't the same thing as a welfare benefit here in Pennsylvania. In PA, employees must pay a portion of the Unemployment Tax. It is withdrawn from our paychecks.
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N Rathke
I march for the grandmas who can't
06:00 PM on 01/21/2012
They don't want to understand. It fits their beliefs to not understand.
11:31 PM on 01/23/2012
You got that - people that haven't been unemployed just want to think that it's our fault we can't find a job! We are not to blame for the state's unemployment, our governor, our senators and our congressman need to look in the mirror to find the culprit!
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ken607
Nothing natural about gas,nothing clean about coal
09:27 AM on 01/21/2012
the main message is minimum wage doesnt cut it, the country needs a LIVING WAGE. min wage at 40 hrs a week and 52 weeks a year is @ $19,000. is that enough to live on let alone have a family? the living wagew should be more like $35 -$50,000 a year then the country can move on, and EVERYONE CAN contribute. but it will cost the rich a small portion of their profits. but as everyone knows they dont want to share! noone wants welfare we all want to work for our living. and those that dont want to work what really have they got? food, shelter? thats the least we can do for OUR people! AMERICA IS WE THE PEOPLE not I THE CORP! pay up or shut up!
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ken607
Nothing natural about gas,nothing clean about coal
09:05 AM on 01/21/2012
What is it about IGNORENT republicans, dont you know the difference between INSURANCE AND WELFARE? guess not cause corps get WELFARE, fore they didnt pay for their subsidees, but working class did work for their BENEFIT INSURANCE!!! like unemployment and social security! we paid into it we should get something in return. as for the rich their rich they got theirs! the poors wages went up 16% in 30 years while the top 1% went up 300%. get it now or are you still willing to suspend reality?
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democratsaint
The GOP-The Humpty Dumpty of economics
08:59 AM on 01/21/2012
the right,no facts,no data,no brains.newt receives assistance he is 'retired',in fact i think everyone get gvt assistance in some form or another,so every man,woman and child should .the test shodl be performed by gvt labs,not private sector,so like in fla,where the gov wife run drug testing,hmm wander ow much she made on this drug testing.
the purpose of drug testing like every other scheme is to get money from gvt into the hands of corporations.bet NONE of them is done by state labs,all done by the private sector a huge boom to drug testing companies.
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phatdaddy51
heros;jefferson, paine and beth warren
08:49 AM on 01/21/2012
the repug party has offended almost everyone in the U.S.

they want to screw their own gramma's and grampa's by slashing social security. So who wouldn't they screw? the 1%ers. that's who.

and that's the persentage of the vote they should get.

i just don't get working folks voting repugs. just doesn't make sense
08:48 AM on 01/21/2012
Just get rid of South Carolina, push it into some of the lovely beaches.
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gaudeamus
igitur juvenes dum sumus
08:09 AM on 01/21/2012
"Newt Gingrich said he favors it for any type of government assistance."

I agree. Let's include those who receive any type of government assistance, which would constitute the majority of the population and probably both Houses of government.