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Republican Presidential Debate Defined By Crowd's Silence

First Posted: 01/23/2012 11:38 pm Updated: 01/24/2012 12:25 pm

TAMPA, FLA. -- The most important moment of Monday night's presidential debate -- the first in the crucial state of Florida -- may have come before any candidate actually took the stage.

Prior to the camera rolling, NBC, the debate's host, told audience members to hold their applause. It was not an agreed-to rule among the candidates themselves. In fact, none of the campaigns said they had even requested it. But it created a type of no-thrills vibe that clearly benefited one over the other.

Mitt Romney, by most estimates, emerged better off Monday night. He peppered his answers with attacks on Newt Gingrich that his own top advisers freely called "aggressive." Most of the action came within the debate's first half-hour, when the focus was on the former speaker's role as a consultant/lobbyist for Freddie Mac, his propensity for bombast and his serial unreliability.

'I don't think we can possibly retake the White House if our nominee was a lobbyist for Freddie Mac," Romney declared at one point.

"The truth is that the members of his own team, his own congressional team, voted to displace him," he offered at another.

In past forums, the attacks would have elicited howls, cheers, or even boos -- disrupting the flow and giving Gingrich the type of energy and break in discussion to jump in. On Monday, Gingrich was left flailing.

"Now, wait a second. I mean, he just went on and on and on, making a whole series of allegations," Gingrich said about the barrage on his Freddie Mac history. "You just jumped a long way over here, friend," he added later.

After the fact, the campaigns spun the debate in typical fashion. But each adviser kept coming back to the same keystone: the prohibition on applause.

"Audiences, I think are there to watch," said Stuart Stevens, Romney's top adviser. "They are not there to be, sort of, an 11th man on the team. And look, we have done fantastically in these debates. The audiences have been very good for Mitt Romney. I just think, personally, that the audiences should not be, it is not the LSU-Alabama game."

"We are picking the president of the United States here," Stevens added. "It is not a game show."

If that didn't give off the indication that the Romney campaign felt it benefited from a dryer, quieter format, the reaction from the Gingrich camp certainly did.

"I also think the prohibition for no clapping was kind of un-American. What if you went to a baseball game and they were like, 'No cheering after a big play,'" asked Gingrich's top spokesman R.C. Hammond.

"I'm going to [file a complaint] right now," Hammond added, tongue in cheek. "R.C. is lodging a complaint."

For the campaigns to put such tremendous stock in the debate rules may seem like an effort in finding a superficial explanation for a candidate's performance. But the rest of Monday night's hour and 45-minute forum was, truly, a dull affair. The candidates found themselves agreeing on several substantive matters: whether it be a limited version of the Dream Act (a path to citizenship for military service) or English as an official language. Former Sen. Rick Santorum and Rep. Ron Paul, the other two candidates, weren't called on until 10-plus minutes in. And, far more often than in the past, they were used as strategic allies by the two frontrunners

"I actually agree with Rick Santorum," Gingrich declared at one point. "I believe that the next president is going to face enormously difficult problems, some of which have been diagnosed by Dr. Paul. And the fact is we have tremendous institutional biases against doing the right thing and against getting things done."

There was no correction offered from the rest of the field that Gingrich, himself, could be described as a product of those demonized Washington, D.C., interest groups. It was another lost opportunity -- although this time to Gingrich's benefit -- and it underscored just how out-of-place Monday night's affair was, compared with previous forums.

There were bursts of polite applause, in response to sharp denunciations of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro.

But it was nothing like the earlier forums. For weeks, political observers have been marveling over the impact that these debates and their raucous audiences have had on the course of the Republican primary race.

"The debates have allowed every candidate regardless of their station ... to compete," said former RNC Chairman Michael Steele. "It has allowed them to get on the national stage and for at least 18 two-hour moments, to have a conversation that they otherwise would have been blocked out of." Taking the audience out of the equation, he added, gave Romney a big boost. "It is just the nature of how he approaches things. This debate was much more suited to his style of debate then it was to the other three."

But while Gingrich may, indeed, have been hampered by the rules of engagement, he didn't exactly help his own cause. The former speaker, who had been so sharp in going after the media in South Carolina's two debates, left tons of material unused when it came to responding to Romney.

When the former Massachusetts governor claimed that his private equity firm Bain didn't work with the government, left unmentioned was that one Bain company ended up needing a $44 million federal injection to help out an underfunded pension plan. When Romney attacked Gingrich for his Freddie ties, the former speaker didn't note that Romney himself had profited investments made in the mortgage giants (investments that spokesman Eric Ferhnstrom stressed were made blindly). When Romney talked about a three-step process to address the housing crisis -- pursue fraud, force banks to be more flexible, and improve the overall economy -- Gingrich failed to recall that his opponent once said the foreclosure crisis should run its course.

Those miscues couldn't be attributed to a quiet audience.

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TAMPA, FLA. -- The most important moment of Monday night's presidential debate -- the first in the crucial state of Florida -- may have come before any candidate actually took the stage. Prior to ...
TAMPA, FLA. -- The most important moment of Monday night's presidential debate -- the first in the crucial state of Florida -- may have come before any candidate actually took the stage. Prior to ...
 
 
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TheHandyman 01:23 AM on 01/24/2012
"We are picking the president of the United States here," Stevens added. "It is not a game show." --- Either this twit doesn't know what all this smoke and mirrors is about or he presumes way too much. They are running for the nomination to get to represent the Republiwon'ts in the Presidential election. Maybe Stevens just forgot that whoever the evil clown they select is they still have to run against  Read More...
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dbrett480
08:32 PM on 01/25/2012
An intelligent crowd at a debate? Now what will they think of next.
01:17 PM on 01/25/2012
I believe that Presidential debates are to be listened to for information and for our personal reactions to the candidates' responses. An hysterical audience does not add anything to debate content or to my decision making. It was a supreme pleasure for me to watch the Brian Williams lead debate because I did not have to constantly try to shut out audience reaction which has been outrageous, embarrassing to American standards, and distracting throughout the primary debate season. Gingrich's questionable talent has always been tied to his ability to manipulate anything and everyone. His manipulation of a legitimate John King question was an ugly way to sidestep an issue that should be part of our decision regarding our choices. John King correctly did not engage Newt; this was a debate among candidates, not between a moderator and candidates. King's critical media peers seem to be ignoring the role of a moderator. I can only hope that Democrats and Independents are not as easily led off track as the Republican audiences have proven to be at these debates.
08:11 PM on 01/24/2012
Debates with FIRE is what we the people like.........Brian whatever - did everyone a great disservice by commanding the audience to remain silent. Bunch of bullshyt.

The candidates knew nothing about it - until he announced it to them - at the start of the debate.

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Isn't he the Canadian that caused a commotion - by waiting to the last moment - for a show he was MC - to protest against America's Toby Keith performing his song = Courtesy of The Red, White & Blue?

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Why should a Canadian dictate how Americans are to conduct themselves?

Does he have that authority in his contract - for a job he has in The United States of America?
09:18 AM on 01/25/2012
What planet do you live on???? Brian Williams is an AMERICAN-BORN citizen, born in Elmira, New York.
09:43 AM on 01/25/2012
Get a grip on yourself. Remaining silent at debates has been a common rule for years. South Carolina are the ones that stepped out of line.
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Bob Forer
06:46 PM on 01/24/2012
Republican­s are the proverbial lemmings. They believe what they are told to believe and do (or don't do) what they are told to do (or not to do). They'd make great fascists
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cathleen
06:12 PM on 01/24/2012
I am with Brian Williams. No applause. Listen to what they are saying. This is not a football game. And after Kings complete roll over to Gingrich 's attack (I think someone at CNN wanted to provide him with a bump). And the crowd's blood thirsty response. One has to question just what was up with that. I don't think King is that stupid to come so unprepared...but who knows. No applause, no hooping. Listen to what they say
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homer winslow
Truth in Beauty, Beauty in Truth
05:34 PM on 01/24/2012
"I also think the prohibition for no clapping was kind of un-American.

Well, I think that Newt's ideas are un-American!
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Tater Salad
How can I be a quitter when haters dont stop?
05:27 PM on 01/24/2012
Darn. Thought it said "Republican Debate Defined By Silence."
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still hopeful at 55
and still changeful at 56
05:23 PM on 01/24/2012
since when do you compare a baseball game to a presidential debate? wow-one is usually enjoyable and the other a s hitshow!
05:01 PM on 01/24/2012
The rubes had to sit an actually listen to the lies, half truths, and regurgitated failed trickle down dreams and the candidates can't have that!!

Oh, yeah.. the President is a muslim...

What a bunch of rubes buying the snake oil...
08:15 PM on 01/24/2012
people like you do not have any original ideas in yr head - you are regurgitating what everyone had to say about Obama, the Snake Oil salesman.
11:14 AM on 01/25/2012
But if you're so original why did you just use his snake oil line? At least change it to... mongoose oil or something. You're welcome.
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04:55 PM on 01/24/2012
Oh.

Was Newt there?

I thought by they way he was being used, he was Romney's mop.
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uniquindividual
I'm unique and so are you
04:54 PM on 01/24/2012
Evidently when in doubt calling it "Unamerican" solves everything to too many.

We've been told over the last few years that:

Protesting the war in Iraq is/was unamerican
Favoring equal rights for Gay and Lesbian AMERICANS was unamerican
Universal healthcare... Unamerican (But don't touch medicare)
Defense department cuts are unamerican.
Questioning the export of our industrial capasity and resulting loss of jobs is unamerican
Favoring a progressive taxrate structure is unamerican.
Regulating gross polluting industries is unamerican.

Seems like "promoting the general welfare" is unamerican to a large group.
11:15 AM on 01/25/2012
I noticed that too. It's like as soon as someone says that they get a pass from further explanation.
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starchildjg24
Balance, Logic and Humor Rule
03:53 PM on 01/25/2012
BRAVO!
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media sux
left out is just right
04:44 PM on 01/24/2012
this is about the dumbest article I've seen on this chum dumpster! The silence idicated nothing except William's unwillingness to face truth in public opinion and Gingrich's need to incite mob mentalitiy if he can. He is not good at first place and never has been.
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CASSIE60
Think before you speak. Read before you think
04:39 PM on 01/24/2012
No one is complaining except Neut. That speaks volumes to his lunacy.

Debates are not audience participatory events!
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Chris Eakin
Reject Ignorance and Intolerance
04:34 PM on 01/24/2012
They all had to play by the same rules. The argument is pointless. Newt is a bully that pouts and takes his ball home when things don't go his way.
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04:29 PM on 01/24/2012
Are they going to clap for the worse evil ? for those who choose to vote because it is the choice
of the lesser of two evils their abstinence means they are willing to accept the worse of the two
evils.Logical ?