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Greece Continues Debt Relief Talks As March Bond Repayment Deadline Looms

Greece Debt Crisis

NICHOLAS PAPHITIS and ELENA BECATOROS   01/27/12 01:52 PM ET   AP

ATHENS, Greece — Greece was locked in a twin effort Friday to placate its creditors, seeking to secure a crucial debt relief deal with private investors while also tackling pressing demands from its European partners and the IMF for deeper reforms.

Failure on either front would force the recession-bound country to default on its debt in less than two months, pouring new fuel on the fires of Europe's debt crisis. In that case, Greece would also likely leave the 17-member eurozone, which would bring disaster on the country and destabilize the rest of the eurozone.

Prime Minister Lucas Papademos and Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos have resumed talks with representatives of international banks and other private institutions that hold euro206 billion ($270 billion) in Greek government bonds, at the end of a second week of tortuous talks on halving the country's privately-held debt load.

Speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, European Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn said he hoped a deal would be reached "if not today maybe by the weekend."

Greek government spokesman Pantelis Kapsis said it was "obvious" that progress has been made. "We hope to conclude as soon as possible," he said in an interview with Vima radio.

Despite several days of intensive talks, an agreement has not so far been reached, mainly due to disagreements on the interest rate cut private investors must accept on the new lower-value Greek bonds with longer maturities that will replace the ones they now own. The writedown, imposed on bondholders by Greece's international bailout creditors, is meant to reduce the country's debt-to-GDP ratio from 160 percent last year to 120 percent in 2020.

It is also a vital condition of a second bailout for Greece, which has been relying on euro110 billion ($145 billion) in international rescue loans since May 2010.

Debt inspectors from the International Monetary Fund, European Central Bank and European Commission, known collectively as the "troika," are currently in Athens to negotiate details of the second bailout, worth euro130 billion ($171 billion).

On Monday, the troika presented a list of proposed reforms that were leaked in Greek media, calling for new spending cuts targeting the military, health and redundant state entities, public sector sackings, tax reforms, privatizations and deregulation of protected professions.

Greece has already imposed tough austerity measures, including deeply resented salary and pension cuts, repeated rounds of tax hikes and labor reforms. But it has also promised reforms it diluted or never implemented, while frequently missing its fiscal targets.

"We've had enough announcements, now the government in Athens must act," German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble told the German daily Stuttgarter Zeitung. "Only then can we talk about a second program."

In a statement he released Friday, after negotiations with the "troika" and ahead of the talks with the private creditors, Venizelos claimed that "we are just a step before the conclusion of negotiations (on the debt writedown)," and added that both negotiation tracks must finish within the next few days. "There is going to be no renegotiation once the (second bailout) is agreed upon," he said.

"The negotiation is difficult," Kapsis told private Skai TV. "I don't want to create the illusion that everything is going well and that everything is easy. It is a very difficult negotiation."

Kapsis said decisions on the new measures would be taken in the next few days, and warned without further cutbacks the private debt writedown – which will be partly funded by the second bailout – is off the cards.

"The issue of spending cuts is immediate as the (2011) budget has a euro2 billion shortfall and there is a need for some additional cutbacks," he told Vima radio. "These actions must take place for the (bond swap) to materializes. ... They are two parallel procedures."

But Kapsis argued that troika demands for 150,000 job losses by 2015 in the public sector – where workers have guaranteed jobs for life – can be achieved through attrition and a hiring freeze.

The leaked troika proposals also called for Greece to sell "two or three large companies" by the end of June. Kapsis said the privatization process "is a real problem."

"It is a difficult period to find investors who will come and place money in Greece," he said. The program is severely behind schedule: Supposed to raise euro50 billion by 2015, it has so far drawn in a paltry euro1.56 billion.

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Derek Gatopoulos and Demetris Nellas in Athens, Pan Pylas in Davos, Switzerland, and Geir Moulson in Berlin contributed.

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02:01 AM on 01/30/2012
A lot of this could be avoided if the EU decides to foreclose on Greece. Come on lets admit it, their made up economy holds no leverage on the world scale and all their doing is expecting Europe to pay for their care free life style.

I have it better explained here: http://thedonkeyreport.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/eu-should-foreclose-on-greece/
08:08 AM on 01/29/2012
I wonder how much longer it will take for people to realize that one could forgive Greece 100% of her sovereign debt and the country would still be in trouble! Ignore the budget deficit, if you will. Just consider that, in 2011, Greece still had an external deficit of over 20 BN EUR (current account) and the Greek banking sector lost 36 BN EUR in deposits in the first 11 months of that year.

That’s a cool 56+ BN EUR which Greece has required in new external funding during 2011. The current account deficit will not get much lower going forward and the capital flight may not, either.

What Greece needs is a long-term economic development plan which aims at reducing the current account deficit and attracting foreign investment while at the same time stopping capital flight!

http://klauskastner.blogspot.com/2012/01/breaking-news-100-haircut-for-greece.html
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07:37 PM on 01/27/2012
Good Luck. Do you really believe the citizens of Greece are really going to put up with any more austerity? Do you really believe that the bond holders are not only going to take a financial haircut but shave almost all their hair off? See you around. Next stop Portugal and beyond.
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06:00 PM on 01/27/2012
Create these jobs right now ... in the millions and worldwide. Repair our environment during this generation then maybe you'll have an economy.

1) Build  millions of miles of bike and horse paths
2) Replant diversified forests, grasslands and hedgerows
3) Tear down derelict buildings and parking lots and plant urban farms
4) Retrofit all buildings
5) Build light rail and trollies
6) Clean up every creek, stream, river, lake, beach
7) Put solar hot water and micro wind on all buildings
8) Develop clean energy
9) Put water catchment on all buildings
10) Modernize water, sewage systems
11) Put all power lines under ground

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07:42 PM on 02/17/2012
It seems that everything is going to hell. While most are worried about the turn in oil extraction and global debt issues, our environment isn't in a better shape either. It seems like forecasts are true the worst lies straight ahead. Currency collapse, oil depletion, hunger, war. And the only thing that's on people's mind is which type of bankruptcy to go for... http://debtsettlement.com/debt-relief/comparing-chapter-7-and-chapter-13-bankruptcy/
Get a grip! Pay what you own and live within your means! We're all worried about pieces of paper while our planet is soon going to stop giving us its riches. Instead of arguing about piles of paper, invest in space exploration and look forward!
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10:33 AM on 01/27/2012
Europe's crisis is effectively a multi-country coup, orchestrated from offices overlooking the Hudson River and New York Harbor. Goldman-Sachs is the real muscle in Europe.

Greek Prime Minister Lucas Papademos and the Mario twins, as in the new President of the European Central Bank Mario Draghi and new Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti are all Goldman Sachs alumni.

Petros Christodoulou, head of Greece's debt management agency, Otmar Issing, former board member of the Bundesbank and the Executive Board of the European Bank, Antonio Borges, formerly head of the IMF's European Department, Peter Sutherland, former Attorney General of Ireland, and Karel van Miert, former EU Competition Commissioner are all Goldman-Sachs alumni.

Greece's PM Papademos oversaw his country's entry to the euro running the Central Bank of Greece from 1994 to 2002 before he became vice-presi­dent of the ECB. Italian PM Mario Monti was an adviser to Goldman Sachs before taking his new job, and Mario Draghi was head of the Italian Treasury from 1991-2001 before heading to Goldman until 2005 until he took over at the Italian Central Bank.

Using complex derivative­s supplied by Goldman Sachs, Italy and Greece were able to minimize the apparent size of their government debt, which euro rules mandated shouldn't be above 60% of the size of the economy. This created the debt bomb that the technocrat­ic rulers have used as an excuse to seize power.

Reference: http://www­.tothepoin­tonline.ne­t/2011/12/­21/economi­cs-profess­or-on-gree­ce/