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Bank Accounts Are Hard To Close, And Even Harder To Keep Closed

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First Posted: 02/10/2012 5:07 pm Updated: 02/13/2012 3:55 pm

Some customers who closed bank accounts at Bank of America last fall recently received an unwelcome surprise: Their accounts reopened. Perhaps even more perplexing for these customers: It's the bank's policy.

Bank of America will reactivate a closed account if an electronic deposit or credit, like an automatic bill payment, is made. "If we receive something, we may reopen the account to accept the item, and the account may be subject to associated fees," Betty Reiss, a Bank of America spokeswoman, told The Huffington Post. "We remind [customers of that] when they are closing the account."

JPMorgan Chase also will automatically reopen a customer's account after it's closed if the bank receives a deposit. The bank, which recently eliminated its policy to charge customers an account-closing fee, indicates in its fine print that "any closed account may be automatically reopened if we receive a deposit to the account." JPMorgan Chase declined to further comment.

Complaints about closed accounts coming back from the dead have shown up on blogs and message boards for several years. But so far the complaints have not led to a policy change.

For customers, an old account reopening can be unexpected. At best, someone might happily learn that a former employer directly deposited some cash into the account. But if an account is reopened, however, and there's no money there, a person could get hit with an overdraft fee to fund an account maintenance fee or an automatic payment. Even in the first case, a maintenance fee could be assessed.

And it's hard to say when these customers would finally realize their banks accounts have returned from the dead.

To be sure, for most people, a conversation with a branch manager might clear up any fees, but the aggravation is essentially an additional -- and hidden -- cost for banking customers.

At other banks, even shuttering an account has obstacles. Accounts that are open and closed within 90 days, often come with an additional price tag. Sovereign Bank, Citibank, PNC Bank and U.S. Bank charge $25, reported the Boston Globe. Some smaller banks can charge as much as $50.

That it is as hard to kill a bank account as it is to slay a zombie is not new news, but the various banks' policies are becoming increasingly important as more consumers switch banks. Bank of America reported a 20 percent jump in account closings in the fourth quarter, CEO Brian Moynihan recently said.

Banks and consumer experts agree that it is the responsibility of an account holder to transfer all regularly scheduled transactions conducted via electronic deposits and payments to a new account. Even for customers who have gone through hoops to disentangle themselves from their big bank, the practice of reopening accounts can leave a very unwanted aftertaste.

One former Bank of America customer complained on Dec. 7 at CustomerServiceScoreboard, an open Web forum for consumer complaints, that a direct deposit of a paycheck reopened her account after she moved her funds to a credit union:

I closed my account and went to a local credit union. After I had closed my account, I had some difficulty because a paycheck was direct deposited to my old, closed account. When I called Bank of America about this, they told me the funds had not been deposited and that they could not hold them for me when they were received. Instead the funds would be sent back to my employer. Working with my HR department, I found out that the funds had actually been deposited and that the customer service representative had simply not taken the time to look it up and lied to me about it.

While it may be easy to point the finger at BofA and Chase, these banks are not the only ones. Commerce Bank, a midsize bank in the Midwest also has a policy of reopening a checking account if an electronic deposit is posted to it.

"Although they are well-intentioned, customers frequently forget to cancel an automatic activity, especially if it doesn't occur every month," stated Patty Kellerhals, director of core retail banking at Commerce Bank via email. "So if there is activity within 45 days of a zero balance event, we view the account as open or active and honor the deposit agreement in place on the account."

As the web of electronic payments and credits gets more elaborate for consumers, they find it increasingly difficult to keep track of all of them. This kind of stickiness is one reason Rep. Brad Miller (D-N.C.) last fall introduced the Freedom and Mobility in Consumer Banking Act, which would require all banks to grant customers the right to close an account at any time, regardless of whether the balance is positive, zero or negative and keep it closed unless a customer specifically requested a reopening.

"There is not real healthy competition because it is so hard to move from one back to another," said a spokesman from Rep. Miller's office. "You have automatic deposits and [banks] have no responsibility that they end up in right place."

The policy at some institutions of reopening closed accounts underscores how deeply banks can sink their teeth into customers. As figures from last fall's so-called exodus from big banks revealed, there was a gap between talking about breaking up and actually doing so. From September to December, more than 5 million people switched financial institutions, according to Javelin Research and Strategy, a financial services research firm.

That number is on par with those from other quarters, but last fall, something different happened. The reason for switching banks changed. Eleven percent, or 610,000, of bank switchers said they moved explicitly because of not liking their big bank, and mentioned Bank Transfer Day, a protest against large financial institutions. But compared with the amount of buzz for the movement -- 22 million hits on the phrase on Google -- the actual number of people who moved was relatively small.

"That points to how difficult it is to move from one financial institution to another," said Jim Van Dyke, a founder of Javelin.

The hunt to pinpoint banks' rules for closing an account highlights the range of policies that banks have -- and how tricky it can be to understand, as a consumer, exactly what they are at each institution.

Many banks, including Citibank and Wells Fargo, said they do not reopen closed accounts. At Wells, for example, an account is closed only when the very last penny is taken out and a customer has made an explicit request to close the account. Representatives from TD Bank, Fifth Third Bank and PNC also said their institutions do not reopen closed accounts.

"It's in [banks'] financial interest to make it as difficult as possible to close a bank account and move elsewhere," said Jean Ann Fox, director of financial services for the Consumer Federation of America, a consumer lobby group in Washington, D.C. "[Consumers] need clear rights to be able to close an account and go elsewhere. That is something CFPB should be looking at and it would be addressed by Rep. Brad Miller's [bill]."

Have you had trouble closing a bank account? Please share your experience with catherine.new@huffingtonpost.com.


CLARIFICATION: An earlier version of this story said that if a bank account is reopened, and there's no money there, the account holder could get hit with an overdraft fee. It has been updated to explain the overdraft fee might be assessed to fund an account maintenance fee or an automatic payment.

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02:46 PM on 09/01/2012
Wells Fargo reopened a closed business account after we removed all of the funds and went to bank and closed account. They did so to allow a fraudulent debit card charge for $7,700 go through. The account was closed and had no money in it. Instead, Wells Fargo reopened account, put charge through and then reported us to ChexSystems.
12:53 PM on 04/27/2012
Which brings me to my point...Why didn't they just send my mom a check for the interest that was owed to her in the first place? Instead they decide to re-open the account, wipe-out the $2.47 that's owed to my mom by charging her $5 maintenance fee every month on that zombie account. Then force her to come back to the bank to deal with it. Then while we were in the bank they keep trying to convince her and I to come back! (well played). If the customer don't or couldn't comeback then they sell these trumped up charges to the collection agency (like they did to my brother). A win win for good old BoA Execs!! So again if they can wipe out these left over interests (owed to customers) by doing this for say 500,000 accounts that's $1,235,000 to as much as maybe 10 million dollars (depending on how many accounts and how much left over interests were left over.) Millions more for their bonuses. Bad business practice. Shame on them.
12:52 PM on 04/27/2012
Went to BoA with my mom finally. The rep said the account has been sent off to another department that handles collection/write-off of accounts that's been closed due to negative balance. She said she will send a note to that department to indicate that the amount supposedly owed (maintenance fee) should be wiped out.

She said the reason the account reopened was that the rep who closed the account in the first place did not close it totally. There was some interest left over that created a positive balance ($2.47). So the account came back alive. Then the maintenance fee started adding up and after 3 months the positive $2.47 became negative ~$12.55 and going.
01:27 PM on 04/17/2012
BoA reopened my account, my brothers account, and my elderly mother's account after they were closed. BoA then started charging their $10 maintenance fee every month. My brother moved out of the country after he closed the account and did not receive his bank statements after it was mysteriously re-opened. After a while BoA sent the maintenance fee my brother supposedly owed to a collection agency. In my mothers case I made sure she received in writing from the Hackettstown, NJ branch of BoA proving that the account is closed at the time of closing. Still, she started receiving overdraft statements because of BoA monthly maintenance fees on a closed account.
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fgrammit
04:45 PM on 02/19/2012
well are they just the nicest folks? not they'll do anything to rack it to the customers.
01:32 PM on 02/16/2012
"Many banks, including Citibank and Wells Fargo, said they do not reopen closed accounts. At Wells, for example, an account is closed only when the very last penny is taken out and a customer has made an explicit request to close the account."

This statement is not true. I just had my checking account reopened after I requested to close it and had a zero balance.
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qsfoxx
still chasing the wascally wabbit...
04:05 PM on 02/14/2012
In this age of sophisticated computerized banking it should be quite easy for any bank to close a customer's account completely - once and for all. Instead, they appear to be making a big deal out of it.
02:02 PM on 02/14/2012
Does anyone know of any class action lawsuits on this? I am currently fighting this with US Bank. I had closed my account and a charge came through. I did not have a new bank account, I was traveling 2000 miles over 5 days for my move, opened a new one and switched my withdrawals the day I arrived. I was in contact with the bank for two months (no one would give my account number over the phone except the one person I was working with). I finally got it, notified her I had sent the payment. On Dec 5 it was sent to collections, Dec 6 they cashed my check. It has now been six months, it has been reported to all 3 credit bureaus, I am listed in the checks system which means I can no longer open a bank account or get a credit card and the ones I have now are in jeopardy of being closed.

You closed the account, your business with them is done. They should not play third party to any transactions from that point forward. Forward the charge to the one making the attempt, the company, (like when you try to cash a check and it bounces, that person gets charged a NSF fee), that company can recover that fee from you. At least you will BE AWARE of the charge.

Please let me know if anyone knows of any lawsuits on this. I may take them to small claims court.
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08:03 AM on 02/14/2012
"Bank of America will reactivate a closed account if an electronic deposit or credit, like an automatic bill payment, is made. "If we receive something, we may reopen the account to accept the item, and the account may be subject to associated fees," Betty Reiss, a Bank of America spokeswoman, told The Huffington Post. "We remind [customers of that] when they are closing the account."

So the alternative would be for the payment to be refused by the bank, leaving the payor trying to figure out how to get it to the customer who forrgot to change his address or give new deopsit instructions? I don't know if this is just a knee jerk negative reaction to anything a bank does or just a lame effort to excuse people from their own negligence. Why not just tell peole sending payments where to send them?
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fgrammit
04:49 PM on 02/19/2012
why are they not returned to whence they cam with a note the account has been closed? BECAUSE the banks are wanting that exact thing to happen so they can stick these customers with more fees. in retaliation for leaving their bank. CONGRESS needs to address this instead of worrying about peoples sex lives.
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xUSAT
When will we ever learn?
07:24 PM on 02/13/2012
How's all that Reagan/Bush/Cheney-Bush deregulation working?
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
09:36 AM on 02/13/2012
I think all the people defending this bank policy must be in the Witless Protection Program.

Artsboy insists that banks need to be able to reopen accounts to accept direct deposits. When I asked him who makes direct deposits without knowing his address, phone number or email address to contact him if the account is closed, he said "the Social Security Administration."

Like, really?
02:39 AM on 02/13/2012
Darn banks will do ANYTHING to make a buck.
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stevenv469
12:16 AM on 02/13/2012
the banks need the money to pay their year end bonuses.
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LangstonA
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11:08 PM on 02/12/2012
Wait this is CRAZY. My parents were a victim of identity theft. Accounts were PURPOSELY CLOSED because thieves had gotten a hold of the bank routing and checking number in addition to personal identification information and the thieves were making unauthorized ACH debits from the account. So let me see if I get this straight.

A criminal ID info and account info. By the time I figure out about this electronic theft the criminal has set up reoccuring ACH debits from my account. I get wise and I close the bank account. The criminal keeps doing the ACH debits. The account I closed BECAUSE the thief was making unauthorized ACH debits is then reopened BECAUSE the thief is making ACH debits? Really?
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MJinCanada
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09:39 AM on 02/13/2012
That occurred to me to, because I was victim of identity theft years ago too. In that case it was someone with a neat little bad cheque scam, and the banks caught on fairly fast.

But any bank that reopens an account without verification and authorization IS committing identity theft and could easily be aiding and abetting identity theft and fraud.

And their fine print shouldn't protect them one bit.
09:14 PM on 02/12/2012
"We got your money and were going to keep it" is what this seems to be and they will use any means to then drain the money from "us" to "them".

More of the class war of the rich on the poor and middle class, FIGHT THIS BY KEEPING YOUR MONEY OUT OF THEIR HANDS it is as simple as doing what is STILL legal....use cash not electronic cards for purchases and US POSTAL money orders for payments, they hate that and I say too bad.