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Nevada Republican Voters Asked: What Would It Take For You To Support Barack Obama?

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First Posted: 02/ 4/2012 8:37 pm Updated: 02/ 4/2012 9:32 pm

LAS VEGAS -- In order to understand how deeply ingrained Republican hatred for President Barack Obama truly is, you need only ask one question: What would the president have to do to win your support?

It's rhetorical. There is nothing the president could do, save become a Republican himself, to placate many angry Republican voters. But when asked to at least consider the idea of backing him, the answers people give can be revealing.

"I wouldn't go across the street if he paid me $500," said Steve Voss, a resident of Henderson, Nevada, who watched former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney address several hundred supporters Friday evening. "I'd throw a rock at him. All right, maybe a water balloon."

Voss' tone shifted seamlessly between playful and angry. He is not an ideologue. He's worried about the deficit and the housing market, particularly in his home state. He acknowledges that Romney's desire to see the foreclosure crisis play itself out isn't exactly his cup of tea. He wants the banks to feel more pressure to restructure loans and he thinks Obama hasn't done enough on that front.

"Smaller banks are being pushed out of business," he said. "You can't favor big banks."

Voss believes that the country faces a potentially cataclysmic budget crisis, but there are some cuts he thinks go too far. A 22-year veteran, he doesn't want military spending levels tweaked. He also wants his pension protected. Pressed a bit more about his animus toward the president, he concedes that what Obama inherited from President George W. Bush wasn't all that pretty.

"I don't think [John] McCain could have done that much better," he said. But that's hardly an excuse for staying the course. "We need someone to blow things up."

Nicole McGreary, another Henderson resident, wants Romney to essentially blow things up as well. And unlike a large portion of the Republican Party, she is deeply enthused about his candidacy, considering him both virtuous -- "What personal agenda would he personally have other than to see the country prosper?" -- and ideal for the times. Asked what it would take her to switch her allegiance over to Obama, she can only summon one scenario.

"He would have to move to some other country for me to consider voting for him," she said.

Like Voss, McGreary is tough to pigeonhole. She doesn't like being called a "conservative," because of the implication that she might be a member of the religious right. She believes in gay marriage and said she thinks it's fine for states, not the federal government, to legalize abortion. Her disdain for the president is tied to his health care law and his energy policy -- from his administration's support for Solyndra, the failed solar energy company that received federal loans, to its opposition to the Keystone XL pipeline.

Mostly, however, it's about Obama's personality.

"I believe he is a liar," she said. "He contradicts himself time after time."

Standing next to her as she spoke was McGreary's father, Doug, who moved to Henderson eleven years ago. He considers himself a student of politics. In the middle of his conversation with HuffPost he brought up "A Time for Choosing," Ronald Reagan's famous 1964 televised address in support of Barry Goldwater's presidential campaign. Without missing a beat, he noted that it's 27 minutes long and "absolutely worth watching."

Like his daughter, Doug served as a precinct captain during the caucus on Friday. Also like his daughter, he can't stand the president. He's been voting for more than four decades now and insists that this election "is not only the most important election in my lifetime, I think it is the most important event in our nation's history in the past 100 years."

It is clearly a bit outlandish to place the 2012 election above D-Day, Pearl Harbor, 9/11 and other momentous events in terms of historical significance. But these are the tones in which many anti-Obama voters speak. While attending a Romney event outside of Tampa, Florida just under two weeks ago, Dunai Berrios, a Cuban-American immigrant, explained why she couldn't back the current president.

"We don't want this wonderful country to become Cuba," she said of the communist nation she left in 1980.

And it's not just people past the voting age who operate with these perceptions. Standing in line to enter Friday night's Henderson rally, Stephanie Collinsworth handed her daughter Brooke a postcard-like flyer that had a tiny photo of Obama near the bottom of it.

"I don't want it!" Brooke replied angrily, attempting to throw the flyer back to her mother. "There's a picture of Obama on there!"

Brooke, her mother confirmed, is five years old.

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LAS VEGAS -- In order to understand how deeply ingrained Republican hatred for President Barack Obama truly is, you need only ask one question: What would the president have to do to win your support?...
LAS VEGAS -- In order to understand how deeply ingrained Republican hatred for President Barack Obama truly is, you need only ask one question: What would the president have to do to win your support?...
 
 
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TeraWatt60 11:09 AM on 02/05/2012
Amazing how effective Fox's propaganda has been with the weak minded Teapublican...how often have we seen here on Huffpost some Teapublican/Conjob post that the entire national debt (15trillion) was incurred under Obama instead of the reality (Reagan and Duhbya), blaming Obama for TARP's blank check with no strings even when it was Bush's Treasury Secretary who gave away the store (unh, negotiated) with the  Read More...
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lynettema
Little old lady
09:34 PM on 02/06/2012
""I believe he is a liar," she said. "He contradicts himself time after time."

Again with no examples. Just rw spin and he falls for it. I follow the President pretty closely and I am unaware of these so called lies. I hope the guy is in the 1% or he's voting against his own best interests.
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montestruc
War is the health of the state--Randolph Bourne
02:54 PM on 02/07/2012
Specific examples?

Ok promised to be out of Iraq in 2009, promise broken.

Promised to uphold the constitution and had the US Military kill American citizens w/o a shred of due process, and started a war w/o consultation of congress, and signed a bill that authorized him to hold American citizens in indefinite detention again w/o due process.

Seriously -- if you need more reasons goose step down to the nearest time machine and go back to Hitler's Germany where you will be happier.
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lynettema
Little old lady
10:06 PM on 02/07/2012
So it took a little longer to get out of Iraq. We're out. As for the other stuff. PPolicy issues, not lies.
06:14 PM on 02/08/2012
Which war was that...the one that GW started in Iraq or the one that GW started in Afghanistan?? Get your facts straight..
08:44 PM on 02/06/2012
This is not new. In 2004 The Main Stream Media gave the Swiftboat Liars for the War in Vietnam
tens of billions in free Air Time for 31 days leading up to the elections.

Yet!!! NOT ONE WORD WAS METIONED ABOUT THE FACTS:

1) That Nixon had investigated John Kerry and found his Record to be Prestine!!!
2) That before he died he appologized to Kerry for his mistreatment of him.
3) That John Kerry was the energy behind A) Vietnam Memorial & B) Agent Orange Legitimation
4) That he brought back the bones of our Vietnam Missiing in Action by pursuading that Governm.
to allow HUNDREDS of Military Investigators to comb the countryside UNACCOMPANIED.

Instead we saw Thousand of Republicans at their convention slapping Beach Flit Plops together.
During a time when the Bush Administration was perpetrating the Biggest Flip Flop in History
by dismantling the Iraqi Army and Institutions and then trying to put them back together again.

These days one thing is true as the day follows the Night: Almost everything that comes out of
the mouth of Mitt Romney About the President is an out of context or bald faced LIE!
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KittyMack
Independent
08:00 PM on 02/06/2012
Wow...these are "intelligent reasons" not to vote for Obama? No wonder we are in so much trouble. Such hatred and ignorance. If you don't want to vote for him, fine; at least state something that is coherent, detailed, sensible and factual.
09:29 PM on 02/06/2012
Wow, how many people voted for him just because he was black? How many times did people on tv saying that over and over? How many people are going to vote him again just because he is black? The fact that people are upset and concerned about foreclosure and unemployment is the reason why they won't vote for him. People are concerned about the direction that this country is moving towards... socialism/communism. Apparently you don't think that their reasoning is good enough. Not one person they interviewed said anything about race.
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lynettema
Little old lady
09:35 PM on 02/06/2012
Oh, brother.
07:42 PM on 02/06/2012
Not a Mystery:.

In 1960s -- prior to responding toCivilRights or Vietnam news-- People asked each other the most important questionL"What's Your Source"

In 1930s Germany Hitler's Communications Director Goebbles discovered: 'IF YOU REPEAT LIES OFTEN ENOUGH PEOPLE BEGIN TO BELIEVE THA THEY ARE TRUE.' Thus began aDemonization Campaign of one CitizenGroup against another.

In 2004 theGOP divide and conquor Strategy was: Catholic against Catholic, Veteran against
Veteran, ChristiansVsLGBTS, EmployersVsEmployees. Etc.Etc.Etc.

TheRepublican Party OF Brainwashing &Out of Context & Bald Faced Lies controls about 80% of US Drive-Time throughRadio And people who think they are getting a variety of opinion ARE NOT!\\

They listen to Hate Criminal Hannity, then Liar Limbaugh, then read the Lies of Liar Morris on Newsmax or put on Local News --whose "readers" get it there too.

And it they put on Newshour they may get Judy Woodruff repeating Republican Talking Point Lies as if fact. Or Blitzer, orDianne Reames showGuest "Journalists"

TheReal Republican Bible is not the old texts. It's Psychological Abuser &Manipulator Frank Lunz's book called,,,,"It;s not what you say but what people hear" (which go unachallanged
&repeated on every station.

Solyndra was chosen by **Bush Administration Energy Departmen** because their Solar Panels
don't use Silicone.

Solar PRICING DECLINED by 72% since Obama (because other Nations invested too). This Start-Up then lost contracts. But choice was made to COMPLETE their Facility so the Tax Payer could be made whole through its future sale!
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gussom
On the message
05:42 PM on 02/06/2012
"I believe he is a liar," she said. "He contradicts himself time after time."

After listening to republican candidates, I'm certain its difficult to discern the truth.
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05:34 PM on 02/06/2012
What is fair? a poor disabled person and a rich able bodies person get into an elevator...there is an envelope on the floor. It has 10 one dollar bills and a note which reads "for someone who needs help". How should the money be divided?
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gussom
On the message
05:37 PM on 02/06/2012
A conservative would say give it to the able bodied person because they can work. The liberal would say give it to the person who is poor.
09:32 PM on 02/06/2012
you need to add "give it to the person who is poor...... because they won't do anything to improve themselves therefore they deserve to be giving entitlements.
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05:46 PM on 02/06/2012
What if the poor person was able bodied, but black, and was wearing an Obama tee-shirt. I know this seems ridiculous..because the rich guy would want to take a different elevator...but what if?
05:30 PM on 02/06/2012
"What would it take for you to support Barak Obama?"...Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, Sarah Palin, Grover Norquist, t-party, anyone with the last name Bush, anyone with the last name Cheney, Eric Cantor, John Boehner, any GOP who can place another anti-American on the Supreme Court....just to name a few.
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gussom
On the message
05:29 PM on 02/06/2012
Most economist are rating the employment figures as being good. Because"Notably, for once falling unemployment was the real thing, reflecting growing availability of jobs rather than workers dropping out of the labor force, and hence out of the unemployment measure."
Your accusation of rhetoric disguises a lack of a critique other than the real rate is !8%. I would suggest that we should celebrate the fact that the US is getting back on its feet.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201202060008
04:58 PM on 02/06/2012
What stupid lines in the article by ignorant people focused on narrow topics without looking out for America as a whole, and what stupid, unpatriotic parents teaching their 5-year old daughter to dislike a current president when she's not even old enough to understand the issues behind her parents' political leanings. It's because of people like these that our country is in such a precarious position.
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KittyMack
Independent
08:02 PM on 02/06/2012
Excellent post!
09:36 PM on 02/06/2012
Having worked with elementary children (mostly black) during the past presidential election I was amazed how many children said they want Obama to win because he is black. That is probably the only reason the parents could come up with.
04:44 PM on 02/06/2012
Nicole McGreary 2012!
02:49 PM on 02/06/2012
I don't think the hatred of Obama is racist, by the way. I think dedicated Republicans would say the same things and act the same way no matter what Democrat is in the White House. It's Democrats they hate, liberals they hate, no matter their name or their color. They have internalized the message of 30 years that all liberals hate America, that all Democrats are inherently disloyal, and an election won't cause them to jettison their world view. Nor, in most cases, 2. But in time, the GOP will decide it's tired of getting beaten up and try another line of attack against Democrats -- a sort of yeah-but.

A Republican version of Clintonism.
09:41 PM on 02/06/2012
Yes some republicans feel that way about democrats and liberals. But turn the table and listen to the stuff the dems say about republicans: we are all racists, we hate the poor, we love war, we are all rich, we are all greedy, we are all radical christians.... so on and so on. Get the picture? I personally think that the majority of the educated voters are in the middle. Chances are we all believe the same things but we just don't have the guts/desire to break away from our chosen party.
02:45 PM on 02/06/2012
You know 40% of the country voted for Mondale against Reagan, and for Goldwater against LBJ, and for Landon against FDR? Yes, there are people who hate every President. It really proves very little to do something stating the obvious. What matters is who gets how many votes in November.
05:00 PM on 02/06/2012
Usually, voting for one means you like one better than the other, or think one would do a better job than the other, not because you "hate" the other candidate and are choosing who you voted for solely based on that. It's this hate-spewing that's un-American.
01:33 PM on 02/06/2012
O could be green or purple and I would have the same feelings for him. That is what you are missing.

Can't lead, doesn't follow and won't get out of the way...
01:39 PM on 02/06/2012
"Can't lead, doesn't follow and won't get out of the way... " a perfect definition of the congressional GOP.
03:31 PM on 02/06/2012
The House dominated by the GOP has been the country's salvation. What more of Obama have you missed?
01:20 PM on 02/06/2012
I would fully support Obama's resignation! Seriously, he's done so much to damage and divide this country that it's the only way I would support him!
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BetterDeadthanRedState
Speech isn't free when only the rich can afford it
02:51 PM on 02/06/2012
Let's see, he created a divide by being black, therefore the divide is all his fault.
03:59 PM on 02/06/2012
Typical Lib, had to make it into a racial thing! I didn't go there and that definitely wasn't what I meant! He's been dividing this country by pitting the have nots ( lazy bums that don't want to work) against the haves ( those that work and pay all the taxes and bills ). Then he's made one new regulation after another, driving even more businesses overseas because they can't afford to operate here. Fuel was less than $2 a gal. has gone up and stayed over $3.50 a gal........ When Libs like you and Obama don't have a good arguement, you always resort to race baiting! Grow up, slavery and equal rights were a long time ago and it's people like you that keep it alive in your own minds!
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gussom
On the message
04:02 PM on 02/06/2012
At the end of the day your comparisons are way off radar because the fact is there is no equivalence. The same comments were being made before he was in office, now he is achieving success, his critics say its happened inspite of him. All I can say is that there are some people on these boards who like to complain too much, based on tribalism and not on facts.
12:28 PM on 02/06/2012
Can any of you liberals screaming about "racism" articulate a scenario where you'd support Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich?

“When you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." - That pretty much sums up why I'd never support Obama.
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BetterDeadthanRedState
Speech isn't free when only the rich can afford it
12:58 PM on 02/06/2012
I'd possibly support the Mitt that ran for governor of Massachusetts, but not that other Mitt.

What I love about people who scream about redistribution of wealth is their cluelessness or ignorance of the fact that it's already going on, will always go on, and that relying on Capitalism alone to determine how that all ends up is usually a disaster.
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03:57 PM on 02/06/2012
What type would you prefer,Doctatorship,communist,socialism,etc.?All others are in a bigger disaster then we are in now.
01:25 PM on 02/06/2012
So, you support the collapse of the economy and ruin of our nation and you therefore oppose anything Obama does?

Interesting.
04:11 PM on 02/06/2012
Its Obama that's collapsing the economy WAKE UP!