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House Votes To Give Obama Power Of Line-Item Veto

Line Item Veto Obama

By JIM ABRAMS   02/ 8/12 05:04 PM ET  AP

WASHINGTON -- House Republicans put aside their usual antipathy toward President Barack Obama on Wednesday to give the president, and his successors, the line-item veto, a constitutionally questionable power over the purse that long has been sought by presidents of both parties.

A minority of Democrats joined in casting a 254-173 vote in favor of allowing the president to pick out specific items in spending bills for elimination. Currently, the chief executive must sign or veto spending bills in their entirety.

The main opposition came from members of the Appropriations Committee, which is responsible for putting together the annual spending bills. They argued that the bill upsets the constitutional separation of powers balance in favor of the executive branch, and that recent efforts to curtail so-called earmarks in spending bills make the line-item veto unnecessary.

The bill now goes to the Senate, where its prospects are uncertain.

In 1996, a Republican-controlled Congress succeeded in giving line-item veto authority to another Democratic president, Bill Clinton. He exercised that authority 82 times, and although Congress overrode his veto in 38 instances, the moves saved the government almost $2 billion.

But in 1998, on a 6-3 vote, the Supreme Court ruled that the law was unconstitutional, saying it violated the principle that Congress, and not the executive branch, holds the power of the purse.

Supporters say the bill has been written to meet constitutional standards. They say that while the president can propose items for rescission, or elimination, Congress must vote on the revised spending package and then the president must sign what is in effect a new bill.

The House bill, offered by Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and the top Democrat on the committee, Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, stipulates that all savings from eliminated programs go to deficit reduction. House Republicans have included the bill as part of a package of measures to overhaul the budget process so as to save money.

Van Hollen, in arguing the need for more scrutiny of spending bills, pointed to the catch-all spending bill the House voted on in December, when members had only 15 hours to review a 1,200-page bill containing more than $1 trillion in spending.

"Sometimes we call them airdrops, earmarks, pork," Ryan said of special interest projects that find their way into spending bills. "Whatever you want to call it, we ought to have members of Congress think twice that they might have to justify this provision, this spending bill, on the merits."

Freshman Republican Rep. Rob Woodall of Georgia voiced the dilemma felt by some Republicans about the bill: "I'm not thrilled about involving this president in budgeting decisions any more than is absolutely necessary," he said. "But given the nature of our challenges, it's not about this president or the previous president or the next president, it's about the American people."

But Appropriations Committee Chairman Harold Rogers, R-Ky., said he opposed the measure because it would weaken the authority of Congress and give the president "a power that our founding fathers did not see fit to give to him." He added that a president can use the line-item veto to give preferences to his own spending priorities.

The bill was supported by 57 Democrats. Forty-one Republicans voted against it.

Under the proposal, the president has 45 days within the enactment of a spending bill to send a special message to Congress proposing cuts to any amount of discretionary, or non-entitlement, spending. Legislation to consider the proposed cuts would move quickly to the House and Senate floors for automatic up-or-down votes with no amendments.

The White House, in a statement, said it "strongly supports" passage of the bill, praising it for "helping to eliminate unnecessary spending and discouraging waste." It said the bill was similar to a line-item veto proposal that Obama sent to Congress in May 2010.

The bill faces an unclear road ahead in the Senate. Four senators – Republicans John McCain of Arizona and Dan Coats of Indiana and Democrats Tom Carper of Delaware and Mark Udall of Colorado – pushed to have a line-item veto provision considered by the supercommittee which last year was unable to come up with a comprehensive plan to reduce the deficit.

The four issued a statement after the vote calling on the Senate to take up the legislation. "With a $15 trillion national debt and record-low approval ratings of Washington," McCain said, "I can't think of a better time so show some fiscal restraint and help end wasteful pork-barrel spending."

But the Senate, traditionally more protective of its constitutional powers, has not always been receptive to the line-item veto idea. In 2007 former Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., picked up 49 votes for a line-item proposal, well short of the 60 needed to break a Democratic-led filibuster.

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Waltfl 09:30 PM on 02/08/2012
Did anybody ask the question why there is suddenly such unity in the House? To grant Obama more powers? Come on! Get real! Whenever such a unity-thing happens, there is typically something fishy, and it's never anything good for the American people. 

First off, a line item veto nothing but a fig-leaf, which diminishes congressional powers. A simple real solution would be single bills,  Read More...
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nitwitsRus
my udder username is...
08:08 PM on 02/10/2012
Ron Paul goes
who needs a line item veto?
i'm gonna veto the WHOLE thing!
06:17 AM on 02/10/2012
This wouldn't be necessary in a wonderful world in which clean bills were debated and sometimes even passed. On their own merits, without riders.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
02:11 AM on 02/10/2012
"But Appropriations Committee Chairman Harold Rogers, R-Ky., said he opposed the measure because it would weaken the authority of Congress and give the president "a power that our founding fathers did not see fit to give to him." He added that a president can use the line-item veto to give preferences to his own spending priorities."
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This ir bogus. Yes the president may use it to give preference to his priorities. As the chief executive who will be responsible for administrating the functionsfor which appropriations pay, he will want to ensure that he can manage the office in the manter he deems best. Likewise the congress STILL has the power to override his veto, so congress hasn't lost anything.

If congress is so worried about the president misusing this authority then they need to avoid stuffing bills with ridiculous riders, and amendments and pork-barrel spending, and send over bills that do what need to be done.
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Lane Campbell
Say what?
12:17 AM on 02/10/2012
This bill, or one like it, is actually a step in the right direction. Some form of line-item veto could, if used properly, end a lot of the political log-rolling and games of "chicken" that pass for legislative negotiation these days. An end to the game of "accept the garbage we hung on this bill if you want the goodies that go with it, or else face deadlock and potential meltdown..." I'm not sure if Obama's the guy to wield this thing properly, but we'll just have to see, won't we?
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jadada2
Am I still in Kansas?
11:15 PM on 02/09/2012
Are you kidding me! Give the most partisan president we've ever had the line item veto. Republicans you've finally drunk the coolaid. All is lost and there is no coming back from this. Once the Demos take over both houses and a Republican gets elected president, they'll take that line item veto power back. That's the way they play the game. Meantime, pack the bags, this election is lost and game over.
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Scheherazade Brown
08:40 AM on 02/10/2012
a very good point, we all need to just flow with this one-step at a time life steps that we are taking towards surface....Good morning to everyone
lawa
row, row your boat
09:56 PM on 02/09/2012
the republicans and teabaggers gave him the power and thats whats stunning.its a conservative thang. and now watch the baggers cringe and cry becuase a black president has power lol
10:09 PM on 02/09/2012
he is not black is he,damm I didn't know,or maybe I don't care just fix it. again I say JUST FIX IT
lawa
row, row your boat
02:46 PM on 02/10/2012
hi lift i made the black comment because of the hatred ive seen. btw i live close to where barak went to punahou school. he was a star athelete, a scholar and as a teen he had many friends of all ethnicities. i saw tihe year book of his senior year. every so often in life a person comes along with a desire to attempt great things for the good of others. i place full trust and confidence in abilities, without the no congress, to fix things
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
02:13 AM on 02/10/2012
You know they never give anything without strings attached.
lawa
row, row your boat
02:46 PM on 02/10/2012
lancer you made the point directly. thats the game they play huh.
09:14 PM on 02/09/2012
Can you use it to strike the pay of the house members and their staffs the budget?
lawa
row, row your boat
09:51 PM on 02/09/2012
have to tell you congress tied their pay raises to the military pay. if a guy/gal in combat getting shot at gets a oayraise the the entire congress gets one. boy they sureknow how to muck things up
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bunty4321r
war veteran
08:40 PM on 02/09/2012
The power is essentially required but the President has to use the power most Judicially or may have to face dire consequences.
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No1Liberal
06:45 PM on 02/09/2012
And this coming from a Party that doesn't trust the President. Now, that's funny!
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chlai88
Change is the only constant
06:01 PM on 02/09/2012
Why is this necessarily a bad thing? A Dem president can line-veto cuts to welfare but so can a Repub president line-veto more spending w/o subjecting the entire bill for political dogfights. The bill would already have passed Congress's vote b4 landing at the president's desk. Most of the items have already been voted upon. No point the president vetoing the entire bill just bcos of a couple of objections which can mean a govt shutdown. We've seen this fiasco taken advantage of by both parties b4. I don't quite see the angle that this thing necessarily gives the president dictatorial power. In fact it allows the president to balance off potentially ideological bills coming from a partisan Congress without subjecting the whole nation to a painful freak show.
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jimfurl179
Figures don't lie, but liars can figure
05:59 PM on 02/09/2012
Well I guess we'll really see if the President is FOR or AGAINST earmarks.
lawa
row, row your boat
09:52 PM on 02/09/2012
its an earmark when someone else gets it its not an earmark when you get it. got it?
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jimfurl179
Figures don't lie, but liars can figure
10:41 PM on 02/09/2012
That's kind of like the definition of a depression. "It's a recession when your neighbor is unemployed; its a depression when you're unemployed." As I recall, President Obama was against earmarks RUNNING for President. Now we'll really see.
razaminaz
What would George Carlin say about us now?
05:57 PM on 02/09/2012
What are the libs saying now? I think this is one of the dumbest laws ever passed, too much power to one person.
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garrho
08:59 PM on 02/09/2012
Why give him that power he does what he wants anyway
06:14 AM on 02/10/2012
And if the Republicans had their way, he'd just sit in his office twiddling his thumbs. They seem to think he wasn't duly elected.

He has a job to do and he takes it seriously; it's about time he stopped waiting for Congress to do theirs. He's knocked himself out for three years trying to work with him, yet they've signaled their intention to never work with him.

Go for it, Mr. President. It's good to see someone working hard to help the country.
poppie0144
use our natural gas
05:25 PM on 02/09/2012
Now Obama only has to get the Senate on board to start acting on bills being sent up by the house and dying in the Senate. Sure going to make it hard for him to complain about spending. If he has the line item veto. I think every president should have it, and hope they used it.
03:32 PM on 02/09/2012
Al hail the power of King Barak I, king of the Imperial States of America! If a conservative president had tried this, every lib on the contry weould have fought tooth and nail to stop him. As it is, not one lib lifted a finger to stop his majesty, king barak I from gradually sezing more and more power until he becomes dictator.
10:15 PM on 02/09/2012
you know in history most; not all; but most dictators die pretty bad violent deaths
06:16 AM on 02/10/2012
Republicans too have been fighting for this for a very long time. Antipathy to Obama seems to make people ignore facts.
03:22 PM on 02/09/2012
The congress give'th the congress can take it away, if the President abuses the power he won't have it for long,,,
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greeneyes51654m
Retired, finally...
05:33 PM on 02/09/2012
Let's hope so.