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Hunter Mack, New Hampshire Teen, Shoots Self In Face In Elementary School Cafeteria

GARRETT BRNGER   02/10/12 07:54 PM ET  AP

WALPOLE, N.H. — A 14-year-old shot himself in the face in a New Hampshire elementary school cafeteria filled with dozens of students eating lunch, officials said Friday.

The teen, identified by a relative and fellow students as Hunter Mack, was hospitalized after shooting himself around 11 a.m. at Walpole Elementary School in southwestern New Hampshire. Police locked down the school for several hours, but no one else was injured.

Cheshire County Attorney Peter Heed told The Associated Press the student might have been upset about a "relationship issue" with a girl.

"It clearly involved a relationship issue; I think that is fair to say," Heed told the AP.

As of Friday afternoon, the student was in serious condition in the intensive care unit.

"Our hearts go out to the family of this young man and our thoughts go out to all of the students that were in the school at this time," Heed said at an afternoon news conference.

He did not say what kind of gun the student used or where he might have obtained it.

"We're all just waiting to hear about our little boy," said Cindy Mack, whose cousin is the boy's father. "He's a wonderful little boy. He's an avid hunter – like his name. He is very smart. He won prizes at school. He shot his first deer last year. He's a great, great kid."

Ethan Symonds, a seventh-grader who was sitting at a table near the boy in the cafeteria, said he heard something "a little bit louder than a chip bag popping." He said he did a double-take, saw blood, and ran.

Seventy of the school's approximately 170 students were in the cafeteria at the time. Nick Phillips, an eighth-grader in the student's home room, said he had been passing notes during the week saying he was depressed, but it wasn't clear why.

Parents received automated calls about the lockdown at about 1 p.m. They were allowed to come to the school to pick up their children, some of whom were interviewed by police.

"The state of New Hampshire is offering whatever assistance it can to the community, along with all of our thoughts and prayers," Gov. John Lynch said in a statement.

Walpole, a town of about 3,000, is several miles from the Vermont state line and about 15 miles northwest of Keene.

Walpole Elementary School, which includes grades 5-8, is one of five schools that recently began participating in an experiment aimed at reducing bullying and meanness in New Hampshire schools.

The Courage to Care curriculum, developed at the University of New Hampshire, includes videos, activities and games emphasizing empathy, caring for others, understanding power, courage and being respectful in cyberspace. Half of the seventh graders in each participating school are enrolled in the program initially, while the other half serve as control groups to compare the curriculum's effects.

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Associated Press writer Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H., contributed to this report.

Need help? In the U.S., call 1-800-273-8255 for the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline.
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02:13 PM on 02/14/2012
"a little bit louder than a chip bag popping."

I'm guessing it was a .22 then.
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
02:09 PM on 02/12/2012
Thankfully, the rate of children getting a hold of a firearm and accidentally shooting themself or others is already very low, but it can always be lower.

There are three simple rules to follow for safely keeping firearms in a home where there are children present:

1) EDUCATE: Teach young children not to touch firearms. As they get older, begin teaching them about firearm safety. As they get still older, teach them about firearm laws.

2) UNLOAD: All firearms not under the immediate, direct control of a responsible individual or not secured should be unloaded.

3) SECURE: All firearms not under the immediate, direct control of a responsible individual should be secured.

Follow these three steps and the chances of children having an incident involving firearms is nearly non-existant.
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ConservativebyNature
I'll cling to my guns and religion, thank you
07:29 PM on 02/12/2012
When we taught our children abuot firearms, we did what you suggest and we supplemented it with the NRAs Eddie the Eagle Firearms safety video. It worked like a charm. The tape hammers the point home that if a child finds a gun they are not to touch it and to tell an adult. That training was put to the test when we were visiting friends and there was an AK style rifle in a room and the kids found it. My children immediately cam to me and told me about it. It turned out not to be loaded, but that's beside the point. Train your children well.
11:40 AM on 02/14/2012
Then they get depressed and grab the gun they know how to use properly. This wasn't a gun safety issue, it was a mental health issue. The kid didn't need help with proper use of a gun, he needed help with the proper use of emotions, and how to handle a break-up like an adult. As a hunter he obviously went through training courses and his parents were probably experts as well. What he didn't have at home it seems was someone to talk to about ALL of his problems (what kid does?).

On accidents however, Nearly non-existent is irrelevant. Because the chance isn't actually 0, this kind of statement has no meaning when all you're talking about is the chance that someone will lose their sanity temporarily and do something stupid.

There's no need to protect guns here, because the kid would've stabbed or hung himself lacking such an easy and quickly accessible alternative for death.

The rate can always be lower, but as long as guns and depression exist it will never ever be 0.

Ever.
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
02:40 PM on 02/14/2012
"Then they get depressed and grab the gun they know how to use properly. "

You obvious stopped reading after step 1).

"This wasn't a gun safety issue, it was a mental health issue. "

It may have been both.
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
01:14 PM on 02/12/2012
"Hunter has had counseling and that about a month ago his neighbors were so concerned about him that they called police and all guns had been removed from his home." -- unionleader.com
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
01:12 PM on 02/12/2012
"The Walpole student who shot himself Friday is “out of surgery and is recuperating, but it's going to be a long haul,'' a relative said Saturday." -- unionleader.com
11:57 AM on 02/12/2012
cont..
as I was saying...Yes,a child has many different options available,ropes,knives and drugs to name a few. None though,give the instant gratification a child at this age is looking for. They don't have the "I will show you" effect,that taking a gun to school has. The body politic can say all they want that guns don't kill people,people kill people,though I wonder how many parents of children involved with gun violence would agree. A readily available gun,not just for a child,but for anyone,can make an errant thought,an angry idea,into an action way to quickly. No,I am not a gun hater,and no,I don't believe that people should not have guns in their homes. That is their right. I do believe however that if a child of any age takes a gun to school,their parents need to be questioned as to where the gun came from. This is our responsibility as adults and parents.

Again,I do not know this family. This is just my opinion.
11:32 AM on 02/12/2012
I do not know this child or his family,below is just a scenario,my own opinion.

A fourteen year old who is an extremely reliable,alert and intelligent kid. Who has grown up around guns all their lives.Who has been taught how to clean,shoot and respect a gun.Who has gone hunting with their brothers,sisters and other family members.Who shows no signs of mental stress or disorganization.Who is well liked by peers and loved by their parents. This child,in no way,should have access to a gun without parental supervision,a gun should not be left within easy reach nor should they have the combination of the family's gun locker. A child of this age makes rash and hormonal decisions based solely on what they are feeling at the moment they are feeling it. They do not always understand the consequences or repercussions of their actions because after all,they are only children.Yes,a child has may different options available to them,ropes,knives, It is up to the adults in their lives to protect them and make the adult decisions for them.
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Grumpy Man
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09:41 PM on 02/11/2012
It is indeed sad that no adult caught on to this teen's troubles and intervened. I'm sad for this child and all of those he harmed.

I'm left to wonder about his level of narcissism since he sought an audience for his final act. I can't help but think that he was a pretty callous and selfish kid to imprint on the minds of his classmates, his violent and untimely departure from life. He may not have harmed his classmates physically but he surely harmed them.
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wolflover3825
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09:50 PM on 02/11/2012
Hi Grumpy.

I think the kid is still alive. In the article it said he was in critical condition. But if you have more recent news, then I am the one who is mis-understanding. Also I think the reason he may have did in the lunch room was in a way of saying 'I'll show them' kind of thing. Not real sure what to really think about that aspect of it. And yes, they will remember that the rest of their lives. That part is very sadening.
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Grumpy Man
Disappointed idealist
10:49 PM on 02/11/2012
Whoops! My bad. Thanks for the correction.

You may be right. The article says he had "relationship issues." He may indeed have been thinking "I'll show her." His public act was, IMHO, quite selfish in that he showed no regard for how his actions would affect others who had nothing to do with his "relationship issues."

He seems to fit in with many maladjusted people who are often, but not always, guilty of being extremely selfish with regard to committing suicide.
madame48
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08:16 PM on 02/11/2012
Ironically, an hour before hearing this I was thinking about a friend of my son, who 20 years ago shot and killed himself as a result of a previous sexual abuse from a step-grandfather. I was thinking, "If only they didn't have that gun and shells in the house most likely *** would be alive today. " my heart was breaking all over again. sad
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12:44 AM on 02/12/2012
Before the gun lovers jump on you, I have to agree with you. Our friend was a hunter and gun collector, he actually used a shotgun that was a gift. If guns weren't right there when someone was in the middle of a crisis, it wouldn't be so easy to make such a final decision. Sure, they might go on to use a different method, but then again, maybe they wouldn't.
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wolflover3825
Hungry Like the Wolf.
08:42 AM on 02/12/2012
Many people who resign themselves to suicide will use any means on hand, either gun, pills, knife, carbon monoxide, jumping off a bridge, walking in front of a heavy vehicle, or their own car and wrapping it around a pole.

Japan has very few guns available to the general public, but has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. So not have access to a gun does not stop someone from suicide.
05:17 PM on 02/12/2012
This clearly was not a "heat of the moment" event. The kid planned it out and brought a gun to school, he could have more easily hung himself with a belt.
07:02 PM on 02/11/2012
when you talk with lots of the diverse parents of kids who have nearly died or have died through suicide or foolish actions, you learn caring homes face tragedies too. stereotyping families in these cases makes the ignorant feel more insulated from such utter devastation, but it doesn't inform prevention efforts. guns kill fast and certain, so impulsive kids who may become emotional quite suddenly should not have easy access. kids and families in psychological trouble will be more likely to receive help if the biased view that they are irresponsible and crazy is dropped, NOW. how many of these comments would remain?
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ConservativebyNature
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07:34 PM on 02/12/2012
Kids shouldn't have easy access to firearms at all.
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06:15 PM on 02/11/2012
"He's a wonderful little boy. He's an avid hunter – like his name. He is very smart. He won prizes at school. He shot his first deer last year. He's a great, great kid."

A 14-year old killing animals--too bad I have no sympathy for him.
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Spartan112
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06:36 PM on 02/11/2012
Make that statement in rural NH and see how it plays.
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
08:26 PM on 02/11/2012
not everyone here has guns...and I just posted about a friend of my son's. shot and killed himself, being distraught from a sexual abuse. the kid was 15 years old. read my post above..it still makes me cry. He used a shotgun. My Grandfather told us he didn't hunt because, as long as he had food for the family, he woudn't do it. Neither did my father or uncles. Their choice...
08:54 PM on 02/11/2012
It is not just in NH. There is a deep seated fascination and love---if that is the right word--for guns in the USA. The average number of deaths/head of population caused by firearms is three times higher in the USA than it is in Canada where gun ownership is lower and hand gun ownership is actively discouraged. That a 14 year old was able to access a firearm speaks volumes for the mindset of the social group he lives in.
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07:05 PM on 02/11/2012
You must really hate wolves, then, since the only way they can survive is to kill other animals.
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Patricia Russell
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09:06 PM on 02/11/2012
a 14 yr old human is not a wolf---well maybe in the TWILIGHT series...
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wolflover3825
Hungry Like the Wolf.
09:52 PM on 02/11/2012
Did you mention wolves?
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02:56 PM on 02/11/2012
Very very sad, can't imagine what was going on or why he could get help anywhere. Many people living in this economy are feeling the same way. I hope that if any are at this post they gain comfort from Psalms 9:9.
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02:41 PM on 02/11/2012
... He shot his first deer last year ?..... it was too easy to pick up a gun in the first place....
This will continue until stronger measures are put in place. Usually women are the victims.
Women who vote against their own interests are a large part of the voting public.
JStading
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03:24 PM on 02/11/2012
So......your goal is to ban all firearms?
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04:26 PM on 02/11/2012
I didn't understand his comment either.
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08:32 PM on 02/11/2012
Let's ban all hand guns. I am all for that.
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06:40 PM on 02/11/2012
The 18-year old mother who shot a knife-wielding intruder a couple of months back would probably consider gun control to be against her interests.
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08:32 PM on 02/11/2012
That's rare. Should we make policy based on really rare events?
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edgySF
If God had enemies, they would be the fear mongers
08:33 PM on 02/11/2012
yes, let's live like the wild west...barbaric.
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02:30 PM on 02/11/2012
I'm all for gun control and not a supporter of hunting, but this child did not shoot himself because he was raised to understand how to handle a gun. I lived in Phoenix for too long not to understand that children who are raised learning a healthy respect and proper training for guns are much less likely to hurt themselves or others with one. He wanted to do this and did it, now focus on the real problem that led to it, not the straw man.
02:53 PM on 02/11/2012
You can't expect a 14 year old to be responsible. Respect and proper training don't make a difference when a teen decides to use a gun to kill himself. The real problem is the NRA and their push for gun proliferation poisoning the minds of our kids.
05:45 PM on 02/11/2012
So would you prefered he use a rope and hung himself instead?
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ifquilt
06:29 PM on 02/11/2012
The NRA made him do it? Maybe it was his mental state? Kid's can be mentally ill too ya know. SMH
05:14 PM on 02/11/2012
Kids with access to guns are much more likely to kill themselves, regardless of how they were raised.
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ifquilt
06:30 PM on 02/11/2012
I wonder what the teen suicide rate was in the old west. That would make an interesting study.
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wolflover3825
Hungry Like the Wolf.
07:53 PM on 02/11/2012
And if not guns, something else.
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yakmeat
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02:21 PM on 02/11/2012
While this kid's decision to bring a gun to school was a poor one (he could have unintentionally hurt or killed someone besides himself) it is (sadly) refreshing to read that he chose not to direct his violence at his schoolmates before attempting to take his own life. I hope he recovers and gets the help he needs.
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edgySF
If God had enemies, they would be the fear mongers
08:27 PM on 02/11/2012
"While this kid's decision to bring a gun to school was a poor one "

YA THINK???
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yakmeat
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12:14 AM on 02/12/2012
I'm pretty sure.
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12:53 AM on 02/12/2012
After all that's gone on at schools concerning guns, why on earth is it still possible for a kid to get one through the doors?
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wolflover3825
Hungry Like the Wolf.
09:28 AM on 02/12/2012
Not all schools across America has metal detectors and armed security to patrol every doorway of the building.