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Greek Debt Deal Nears, As Greece's Coalition Party Leaders Back Agreement On Bailout

Greek Bailout Deal

DEMETRIS NELLAS   02/11/12 05:57 PM ET  AP

ATHENS, Greece — Warning of a "catastrophe" that would leave Greeks subsisting on food stamps and the country wallowing in bankruptcy, Greek leaders urged lawmakers Saturday to pass more painful spending cuts on the eve of a crucial vote to qualify for a massive bailout.

In a televised address Saturday, Prime Minister Lucas Papademos defended the thousands of job cuts, drop in the minimum wage and other austerity measures that would earn the country a euro130 billion ($171.6 billion) bailout deal and stave off bankruptcy.

"The deal will ensure our country's future inside the euro. ... A bankruptcy would lead to uncontrollable economic chaos and social explosion," Papademos said. He added that a bankruptcy would lead to Greeks losing their savings; the state being unable to pay salaries and pensions; and shortages in import items such as medicines, fuel and machinery.

He and the leaders of parties backing Greece's coalition government – socialist George Papandreou and conservative Antonis Samaras – as well as Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos, a socialist – used stark images of a country under bankruptcy to convince the public and, more importantly, persuade Parliament members debating the measures to vote for the deal.

"If we do not dare today, we will live a catastrophe," Papandreou said during a parliamentary debate session.

"What do you want, a country where food will be handed out with food stamps and where we will have no fuel?" Samaras angrily told a dissenting deputy.

"The battle is now. The war is now. If we falter, nothing will be left standing...The real dilemma is between painful measures and crushingly painful ones," Venizelos told socialist lawmakers.

Several dissident lawmakers were unconvinced. At least 13 conservatives and seven socialists declared they would not vote and two more socialist deputies resigned, bringing the total to three. Their replacements will be seated Sunday.

Typical of the dissidents' arguments was the one put forward by veteran socialist Vasso Papandreou (no relation to the socialist leader), a former minister and member of the European Commission. "If we say we do not pay the bond that matures on March 20, all (Europeans) will rush to find a solution," she said.

Debt-stricken Greece does not have the money to cover a euro14.5 billion bond repayment on March 20, and must reach a vital debt-relief deal with private bond investors before then. The country's woes have threatened its future in the 17-country zone that uses the euro currency.

The Europeans are waiting to see Greece finally act on their commitments.

"If the right course is now set sustainably in Athens, Greece can count on our support – but only then," German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle was quoted as telling the weekly Der Spiegel.

"There can no longer be advance payments," he said, according to the report. "Only actions count now."

Westerwelle said that the "clear aim" is to keep Greece in the eurozone. But he insisted that "it is not enough to approve reform programs; it is necessary to begin the implementation of the reforms without delay. Not sometime, but now."

The austerity measures included in the bailout deal, including the layoffs of 15,000 workers and a 22 percent drop in the minimum wage and pension cuts, have set off street protests and led to the resignations of half a dozen Cabinet officials.

Lawmakers are wary of voting for the measures and the prospect of more to come, along with the job cuts and the shutdown of several state agencies, including welfare agencies. The demands of creditors, including the European Union and the International Monetary Fund, have caused one of the original coalition parties – the populist right-wing Popular Orthodox Party – to quit the government and withdraw its four members from the cabinet. Two more cabinet members, both socialist deputy ministers, have also quit. They cited their disagreements with parts of the austerity package.

Both Papandreou and Samaras made it clear that dissenters are not welcome in the party. Samaras threatened to expel those who did not vote in favor and exclude them from the lists of party candidates in the next election. "I want to make it absolutely clear ... rebels or 'bravehearts' have no place in (the party's) candidate lists," he said.

"I call on you to fall in line and vote for this difficult and painful deal that will help (the country) stand on its feet. Whoever has a conscience problem can resign," Papandreou told his lawmakers.

Together, the socialists and the conservatives have 236 deputies in the 300-member parliament.

Parliament will vote Sunday on emergency legislation approving the new bailout and a debt-swapping deal with private creditors. Further legislation detailing the measures demanded by, and agreed with, Greece's public creditors, the EU and the IMF, will be up for vote a few days later. The exact time has not yet been set.

Samaras also called for an immediate election once the bond swap deal with Greece's private creditors is over, saying he would not agree to the extension of the mandate of the coalition government beyond that date. Elections are normally due in October 2013. The bond swap deal with Greece's private creditors is expected to help Greece get rid of some euro100 billion of its debt. The bond swap must be completed before March 20, the redemption date for euro14.5 billion worth of bonds. Elections could then be held about three weeks later than that, at the earliest.

While the two parties met, union leaders staged a demonstration outside Parliament that attracted about 4,000 protesters, while up to 6,000 policemen patrolled the streets of Athens. The protest ended with some scuffles that left two people injured when police tried to clear the street in front of Parliament. Authorities are bracing for a much larger, and possibly violent, one on Sunday evening.

Another 4,000 turned out for a peaceful demonstration in Thessaloniki, Greece's second-largest city.

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Costas Kantouris in Thessaloniki and Geir Moulson in Berlin contributed to this report.

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ATHENS, Greece — Warning of a "catastrophe" that would leave Greeks subsisting on food stamps and the country wallowing in bankruptcy, Greek leaders urged lawmakers Saturday to pass more painful...
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ringo3khan
02:21 PM on 02/13/2012
Huh, yea.........those Greeks are really broke........NOT. They got enough money to build that huge new building on the hill overlooking Athens; I see it in the background everytime Michele Caruso Carera comes on the t.v. to talke about the Greek Debt crises. The country is broke and they can afford a new parliment building or super library or whatever that is? How damned broke is that? Someone's got some money unless its a new McMansion for George Soros. He's getting pretty old, I guess he wants to return home for retirement. Come to think of it, Soros is the only Greek guy I ever heard of whose last name wasn't Papendreou. And that family can't be too awful broke what with all the Papas Restaurants.
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ericw1004
Libertarian Socialist, Secular Humanist, Pacifist
10:42 AM on 02/13/2012
Neoliberal capitalism is failing....lets hope what will replace it will be respectful of the value of people's labor and of human lives....
...if the right wingers have their way, however, that will not be possible....
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robert horwitz
08:36 AM on 02/13/2012
No chance of this working. The problem in Europe is so wide spread its like the movie (The Blob).
03:15 AM on 02/13/2012
Goldman Sachs (One example) and some greedy Greek politicians started this years ago. Now the IMF and EU Central Bank (Economic Hit Men) are moving in to take over what's left of Greece. The Multi-National Corporations will make out like bandits and Greece will become another Third World Nation. As went South America years ago, so goes much of Europe now. I believe Italy and Spain will be next.
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FogBelter
Illegitimis non carborundum
02:38 PM on 02/12/2012
Maybe HuffPo should be covering this:

21:31 Syriza Parliamentary group leader Alexis Tsipras has said that a collapsing political system and a government with no popular mandate cannot negotiate.

http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/1/53244
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FogBelter
Illegitimis non carborundum
02:01 PM on 02/12/2012
Updates from Athens News Live News Blog :

20:55 Skai TV reports that police have run out of tear gas & have asked for more supplies to be brought

20:22 A branch of Starbucks and Eurobank are on fire on Korai Square, off Panepistimiou St.

19:19 Theodorakis has just spoken to the press inside parliament. He said "the people will win" just as they did against the Nazis and the junta.

http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/1/53244
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aforbes808
Naked is a state of mind.
01:03 PM on 02/12/2012
Do they really think the Greek people will swallow their poison pill? If the men who created this mess aren't willing to put their livelihoods on the line why would the people be content allowing theirs?
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aforbes808
Naked is a state of mind.
12:59 PM on 02/12/2012
Both Papandreou and Samaras made it clear that dissenters are not welcome in the party. Samaras threatened to expel those who did not vote in favor and exclude them from the lists of party candidates in the next election. "I want to make it absolutely clear ... rebels or 'bravehearts' have no place in (the party's) candidate lists," he said.

"I call on you to fall in line and vote for this difficult and painful deal that will help (the country) stand on its feet. Whoever has a conscience problem can resign," Papandreou told his lawmakers.
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Stunning. Occupy your conscience. From underneath the rubble sing a rebel song. (Coldplay)
12:41 PM on 02/12/2012
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/02/violent-protests-in-greece-6-cabinet.html

Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:50 AM

Violent Protests in Greece; 6 Cabinet Members Resign; LAOS leader "I Would Rather Starve Than be Under German Jackboot"; Controversy Over Missing Paragraphs

Imagine you are asked to sign a document but three pages were missing. Further imagine the documents you were asked to sign were written in English but you only speak Greek. Would you sign?

That is exactly the predicament Greek officials were placed in by the Troika. Here is the story sent to me by Demetri Kofinas at Capital Account.

Hello Mish

George Karatzaferis leader of LOAS political party gave a speech today addressing why he refused to sign this latest agreement. In his speech, he said that he asked for a translated document of the agreement so that he could read it and sign it since his English is not as good as Papademos'.

When he got a copy, it was not only smaller than the English version, but was also missing pieces, including the last paragraph! He refused to sign it because he felt pressured and wants more time.

Youtube has a video of Karatzaferis where he compares the documents. At the 11:35 mark he translates the last paragraph for the listeners, which was not provided to him in the translated copy that he was to read.

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12:26 PM on 02/12/2012
"I am a rich banker, if you don't make cuts to your life to bail me out it will be a disaster for you."
who the F.. is so stupid they believe this crap.
It's sop full of hole you could drive a truck through it,
Plus this isn't a bailout of greece, that should be made clear, it's a bailout of the banksters, sold to people as a bailout of greect, it's a bailout of the markets, and since i the us something like 40% of the wealth is owned by less than 10% , what a bailout of the "markets" is is really a bailout of the rich. people really need to get this through their head!!
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withonor
Progressive Liberal Independent
11:38 AM on 02/12/2012
Spending cuts -> Loss of Revenue -> Need for a bailout -> Requires more spending cuts for lender confidence -> Loss of Revenue -> Need for a bailout -> Requires more spending cuts for lender confidence

Just like a toilet flushing. If the GOP controlled congress in 2008, we might have been one step ahead of Greece.
11:14 AM on 02/12/2012
Read this carefully. This is where we are headed under Obama and the democrats. Hang on
11:18 AM on 02/12/2012
No one can stop it. Doesn't make any difference who the President is or what party is controlling Congress. The FED is the one bankrupting this country and they are accountable to no one in American politics.
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Roelvdwegen
Reality has a liberal bias.
12:54 PM on 02/12/2012
Thanks to 8 years of Bush we are already there. $16 trillion deficit remember? The only reason the US isn't already bankrupt is because of the massive loans and endless money printing.
12:59 PM on 02/12/2012
Bush has been gone 3 years. Obama has run up more debt than all the presidents combined in 200 years with nothing to show for it but more government control and no jobs, and still want to give more away. I feel sorry for the few of us that are dumb enough to work for the clowns that vote for him.
10:35 AM on 02/12/2012
Lies, lies and more lies. Austerity measures are pushing Greece into default...it's insane. This will topple their government and cause a revolution. Investors will get nothing. The people suffer no matter what. Rich people got richer investing in Greece, making risky investments for high returns, now that bubble has burst but they refuse to take responsibility for their mistake. Heaven forbid rich people might lose money on their risky investments, the Greek working class has to pay for their gambling mistakes. Class warfare at it's worst. Then again maybe Germany will invade Greece to force them to embrace slavery. So it could get worse. Maybe Obama will intervene with drone bombs to force them to embrace slavery.
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
10:27 AM on 02/12/2012
The deal doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that the current group of Greek politicians agree to the deal. They will be ousted. New leadership will be brought in with the serious intent to default and Europe will be forced to bail Greece out, else risk the debt-collapse "contagion" spreading through the EU. The Greeks hold the cards, not the German banks. But, the job of the financial ministries is convince Greeks that it is otherwise.
09:47 AM on 02/12/2012
The Greek government tolerated tax evasion for populist reasons.

Now it is time to ensure that everyone pays their fair share.