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Hussein Tantawi, Gen. Martin Dempsey Meet

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AYA BATRAWY   02/11/12 03:27 PM ET  AP

CAIRO — The United States' top general discussed an Egyptian crackdown on Western-funded pro-democracy groups with the head of the country's ruling military council on Saturday, as another two foreigners were arrested on charges of fomenting discontent on the first anniversary of Hosni Mubarak's ouster.

The meeting between Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey and Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi took place as relations between the two allies have reached their lowest level in decades.

Egypt, which regularly blames anti-military protests on foreign meddling, has referred 16 American civil society employees to trial on charges of using State Department funds to finance unrest in Egypt. Among those referred to trial is Sam LaHood, the head of the Egypt office of the Washington-based International Republican Institute and the son of U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood.

And in an indication that authorities will continue to push the line that foreigners are stirring up trouble, Egyptian police said they had arrested an Australian journalist and an American student whom they say residents accused of trying to bribe people to join a strike aimed at pressuring military rulers to transfer power to civilian rule.

The new arrests follow warnings from both the White House and Congress that the United States could cut an annual $1.5 billion aid package to Egypt over the crackdown on the civil society groups.

Dempsey discussed a range of issues with Egyptian generals "including the issue involving U.S. NGOs", according to his spokesman Col. Dave Lapan who declined to give more details about the private discussions.

Egypt's state news agency said Dempsey and the ruling generals discussed "the depth of the strategic relationship between Washington and Cairo," but a Pentagon official had said prior to the general's visit that he would talk with Egypt's leaders about "choices and consequences."

Egypt's generals have responded defiantly to both the Americans and to their domestic opposition, issuing a statement Friday evening saying the country was facing great threats.

"We face conspiracies hatched against the homeland, whose goal is to undermine the institutions of the Egyptian state and whose aim is to topple the state itself so that chaos reigns and destruction spreads," it said.

Activists say the conspiracy warnings seek to undermine their campaign aimed at pushing the generals to relinquish power.

Saturday's arrests will likely be used to reinforce the generals' narrative that the strike and other protests against their handling of the post-Mubarak transition are the work of "foreign hands."

A security official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to release the information, identified the two arrested as a U.S. student enrolled at the American University in Cairo and an Australian journalist.

He said that their Egyptian guide was also detained in Mahalla al-Kobra – a northern industrial city that has seen violent worker strikes in the past – after residents told police the three were handing out money to people in order to encourage them to participate in the strike.

The security official said the three would be interrogated by the state prosecutor. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.

The official did not identify the three, but a woman identified as Aliya Alwi wrote on her Twitter account that she and the two others, freelance journalist Austin Mackell and student Derek Ludovici, had been detained and told they would be transferred to a military intelligence office in the Nile Delta city of Tanta. Their identities could not immediately be confirmed.

Rehab Saad, a spokeswoman for AUC, said they could not confirm if she was a student at AUC because the university was closed.

It was difficult to fully gauge the success of the calls for a general strike in Egypt. Activists say that they intend it to be a rolling strike that will grow over time, and the first day – Saturday – is a weekend day in Egypt.

A statement signed by 40 groups said that the strike aimed to push Tantawi and the other members of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces who took over from Mubarak on Feb. 11, 2011, to give up power.

Egyptian activists accuse the generals of using repressive tactics similar to those of the Mubarak regime to silence dissent.

"We are on the verge of another struggle, to overthrow another tyrant," said Ahmed Hewary, a member of the Revolution Continues coalition.

Student councils and professors at 11 universities, among them Cairo University and the American University in Cairo, announced that they would cancel classes for three days to take part in the strike.

Hundreds of students protested inside several universities across the country, carrying photos of some of the nearly 100 protesters killed in clashes with security forces since Mubarak's resignation.

But outside the universities and a handful of factories, there were few reports of adherence to the strike.

Cairo airport Helmy al-Saber said he worked overtime for an hour to show his rejection of the strike.

"The economy is reeling and it is not possible for a worker who loves his country to adhere to this civil disobedience, because it will only make the economy worse," he said.

The generals still have support from a wide spectrum of Egyptians who see them as the only viable leaders able to run the country until presidential elections scheduled for June.

Tanks parked around Cairo were covered with stickers showing a soldier carrying a baby, and another reading, "The army and the people are one hand."

That was the slogan raised by demonstrators a year ago, many of whom put their faith in an army that they believed would step in to end the crisis, remove Mubarak, and restore stability.

Human Rights Watch meanwhile released a statement Saturday saying that free expression in Egypt has worsened since Mubarak's ouster.

The New York-based rights group cited military trials of protesters and bloggers and the use of deadly force to break up demonstrations.

It also noted the interrogations of activists for criticizing the military, the suspension of new satellite television licenses, and the closure of an outlet of Al Jazeera television.

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Sarah El Deeb contributed reporting.

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rosiebag
Big, Bold, Brassy
09:35 AM on 02/13/2012
The general is doing Hillarys job.Hey lady its 3 am.
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Randolph Greer
I am a Poet .
02:52 AM on 02/13/2012
I see a lot of comments on this thread that are so simple minded as to be embarrassing to those making them. The Egyptian Generals are playing a game and everyone knows what it is. It is as old as time. They are fooling no one. We'll see how this game plays out.
11:57 AM on 02/19/2012
Washington is playing the game and convincing everyone that there is a serious diplomatic rift
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02:48 PM on 02/12/2012
Why is it okay for a US general to go to Egypt and complain about that country treats its dissidents but it is not okay for an Egyptian general to come to Washington and complain about Gitmo?
07:13 PM on 02/12/2012
My guess is because USA gives Egypt $1.5bil in aid which comes with some clauses that allow the visit mentioned in the article ... again, just a guess
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fapescia
01:20 PM on 02/12/2012
It is so good that we have "our guy" installed in Afghanistan and Iraq. We now need "our guy" running both Egypt and Syria. Tunisa and Libya should be begging for "our guy" to take over. The US has a long history of promoting democracy in Africa, Southeast Asia Latin America, and the Middle East. They should trust us. The Palestinians know we are a fair moderator and judge of disputes.
05:41 PM on 02/12/2012
Egypt was always running with "our guy". The last one got fired just recently and now Egyptians need to fire the rest of the "our guys" in their military command before they can have their say.
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madcityy
12:47 PM on 02/12/2012
how dumb r we in the usaaaaaaaaaa,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the generals have run that country forever.................

they r not gonna give it up.....................
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02:49 PM on 02/12/2012
Maybe Dempsey was there trying to get pointers.
11:59 AM on 02/19/2012
They'll hold on, with the approval of Washington.
There is no diplomatic rift.
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fapescia
12:38 PM on 02/12/2012
There is a lot of noise on the right-wing machine about cutting off aid to egypt and that is good. The aid was promised to Egypt by Jimmy Carter as a bribe to honor the peace treaty with Israel so it is best that that phoney treaty is finally rejected.
12:00 PM on 02/19/2012
But they won't cut the aid.
Empty threats
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edwardandersons
The Lord is my Shepard
12:30 PM on 02/12/2012
Why are all propaganda sources always spoke of in this manner; 'who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to release the information'...Whenever an opinion is needed to prop up an event its always someone with no name and is unanimous or unconfirmed eyewitness...
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Mailman
12:19 PM on 02/12/2012
Just stop giving them money and see how things go.
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02:49 PM on 02/12/2012
Like that isn't a two edged sword.
Intelligentia
Anti-Racist
12:10 PM on 02/12/2012
To the Moderator(s): Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ... You can reduce it to ZERO and it won't make a bit of a difference to me. You know what I'm talking about!
shlack123
Independent; Moderate; Atheist; Texan.
11:03 AM on 02/12/2012
We have no business in ANY of these countries. No money, no troops, no aid. We need to leave them alone and handle our own country first. We have poverty-stricken people in our own backyards, and all that aid money could certainly be put to better use at home, where it would actually be appreciated. Not to mention all of our soldiers who have fought and died in this region did so for naught.
12:01 PM on 02/19/2012
Your comment shows how ignorant you are of the geo-politics of the region.
There is no diplomatic rift
09:51 AM on 02/12/2012
It is a laughing matter if you look at it from their side. No matter what they do this bunch of clowns and idiots in this administration will continue sending military aid and money to get the brotherhood in place before he (hopefully) loses the election.
shlack123
Independent; Moderate; Atheist; Texan.
11:01 AM on 02/12/2012
We've been sending money to them far longer than when Obama was president. Take the wool off of your eyes...
12:56 PM on 02/12/2012
Then we had a group that actually "somewhat" supported us. I was stationed there during Desert Storm. Now, the concept is gone and with the brotherhood taking over, our money will not be spent for our benefit at all.
But, we should be asking where the three trillion dollars went that this administration had "givien" to the failed banks in europe over the past three years? In some countries that was over 20 times more than their governments had given them (and they are arguing about giving greece 120 billion).
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ClarcKing
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08:53 AM on 02/12/2012
The destabilization of the nation states throughout the middle east is being disguised by humanitarian rhetoric. Western Imperial forces are the cause of the bloodshed. Libya ought to inform our perspective and intelligence. The MSM are weak, collaborators, and should not be used as the instrument and administration of Imperial propaganda.
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blutopie
maui ono
08:44 AM on 02/12/2012
The Egyptian people need to run Egypt - not Hillary Clinton (and the rest of the Israeli Lobby) using puppets in the military like Mubarak, kept rolling in 'US Aid' bribes

Egyptians should forbid any direct military political contact with Hillary until the transitional military council has been replaced with actual Egyptian civilians and an established way of dealing with Americans trying to re-clone Mubarak.

The Israeli Lobby is already doing everything it can with NGOs, military aid bribe offers, etc to take up just where they took off with Mubarak

The first stipulation of any new peace treaty with Israel should be predicated on complete closure of just the kind of loopholes the Israelis used to abnegate the Camp David accords - and then cover up those loopholes with a bribed and corrupt puppet like Mubarak - loopholes and time the Israelis used to continue to set up an Apartheid state over Palestine for the last several decades.

Everybody except Hillary and the Neocons realize what a disaster that has been for Israel at this point - Israeli is facing strategic debacle with 700,000 illegal settlers stuck over her borders which she now cannot withdraw without yet another disaster

Any new peace deal with Egypt should be predicated on the end of Israeli Apartheid - which in real terms, as the Israeli Knesset now is planning for, means the One State Solution
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edwardandersons
The Lord is my Shepard
12:32 PM on 02/12/2012
The anniversay of Camp David accords is Sept 11th....not sure of year but interesting.
08:22 AM on 02/12/2012
And Obama keeps giving the military in Egypt $1.5 billion a year - this for three years while he called Mubarak a dictator and they had - and still have - a police state. A police state Obama complains about but continues to fund.
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EdRea
08:33 AM on 02/12/2012
What are Santorum's and Romney's positions on $1.5 billion military aid to Egypt?
08:41 AM on 02/12/2012
They are not the current President nor have been the President for the last three years so they are not in a position - nor have been in a position - to address this issue. So what's your point?
07:17 PM on 02/12/2012
Here is the thing about the $1.5 billion a year. It comes with the clause that they have to buy weapons from USA for that money. That is why they have F-16s, Abraham tanks, Hawk missiles, Aegis guided missile cruiser, Sikorsky helicopters and many more weapons made in USA
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flaconoire
Anartist
08:04 AM on 02/12/2012
Look at the generals with their shiny suits and medals, they look like a 3rd rate actors in a bad Las Vegas show. They should be laughed out of their jobs. Military everywhere looks (and acts) the same. Not one of them should be trusted.
09:13 AM on 02/12/2012
The photograph shows uniforms, medals and lots of gold leaf on the furniture. You're right. It looks gross.