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Lisbon Protests: More Than 100,000 Rally Against Austerity In Portugal

Portgual Protest Austerity

Posted: 02/11/2012 2:34 pm


* Organisers claim 300,000 took part

* More protests against bailout austerity on Feb. 29

* EU/IMF inspectors arrive on Wednesday

By Andrei Khalip

LISBON, Feb 11 (Reuters) - More than 100,000 people packed Lisbon's vast Palace Square on Saturday in the largest rally against austerity and economic hardships since the country resorted to an EU/IMF bailout last May, and organisers vowed to step up protests and labour action.

The mass rally occurred just four days before Portugal's international lenders were due to start the quarterly evaluation of the bailout implementation on Wednesday in the finance ministry building which overlooks the square by the river Tagus. They come amid concerns Portugal may need more bailout funds, if not a debt restructuring like Greece.

"We take this opportunity here to make our own evaluation on behalf of those who suffer daily," Armenio Carlos, head of the country's largest union, CGTP, told supporters as the crowd chanted: "IMF doesn't call the shots here!"

"We have to step up the struggle," he said. Carlos promised the next wave of rallies across Portugal as soon as on Feb. 29.

"The country needs to remove the rope from around its neck," he said, saying that Portugal should try to renegotiate its debt rather than impose more austerity, an argument he has made consistently.

The peaceful rally under the banners of the 750,000-strong CGTP, which last month refused to sign a pact with the government on labour market reform, showed that social strife is running strong and likely to grow even though other unions agreed to the reforms demanded by the bailout terms.

Spending cuts and tax hikes needed to meet the fiscal terms of the bailout have caused the worst recession in Portugal since the few turbulent years that followed the 1974 return to democracy. Unemployment is at a record of around 13 percent.

"The bailout is good for the creditors who get billions in interest and commissions, good for the banks ... But the measures are really bad for the workers, youths, pensioners, for 2.7 million Portuguese on the verge of poverty and those already below the poverty line," he said.

CGTP said the rally was the largest in the past 30 years and brought together some 300,000 people, but it is not unusual for the unions to exaggerate the numbers. Police would not provide estimates. Many of the protesters came from other cities in dozens of buses organised by CGTP.

Some of the placards carried by demonstrators read: "Against exploitation and impoverishment! Another policy is possible and necessary!"

"They are stealing the salaries and the rights we had. They are stealing from the poor to give to the rich. I'm poor and I have to protest. The more we stay quiet, the more they rob," said Jorge, one of the protesters in his twenties.

Portugal's debt crisis has so far failed to provoke the scale of labour protests seen in Greece. There have been two general strikes in the past two years and workers in transport and other sectors have staged regular stoppages.

Compared to some other European countries, protest rallies have been few and peaceful, though large in numbers.

But analysts say there could be more unrest as some of the government's most stringent austerity measures come into effect this year. Tax hikes and cuts, including the elimination of two months' of civil servants' wages, have already sent the country into its deepest recession since the 1970s.

Still, the head of the second-largest union, which signed the labour reform pact, said at the time it would significantly decrease the likelihood of social strife spiralling out of control in Portugal.

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10:48 AM on 02/13/2012
As the Titanic of Western civilization sinks beneath the waves. It will rise again though, I think, because people will reject totalitarian rule by the 1%. It may not emerge as the dominant force in the world, but it may emerge as a free place where people are valued, still the best idea human beings have ever come up with.
05:48 AM on 02/13/2012
Dismantle the EU Gambling Machine and end the Euro, the Wests financial problems solved!
05:47 AM on 02/13/2012
Form an 'Alliance' with Greece, tell the EU to go 'whistle', DEFAULT. leave the euro, make Greece your trading partner, Start again without your 'Overlords' Germany and France.
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ajustman
09:40 AM on 02/13/2012
Good idea, just switch some of the trade take some back from China and give it to Greece
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04:07 AM on 02/14/2012
From my experience, you cannot get a Greek to show up for work on time or work 60 hours a week like the Chinese do. There needs to be a cultural shift.
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VPerry24
Carpe Diem!
05:35 AM on 02/13/2012
Really, think about it, first you vote for those politicians that run the country into the ground and then we blame them when it is our fault in the first place and we have not learned our lessons yet.
05:51 AM on 02/13/2012
Thanks for your post VPerry24, who would you vote for next time round?
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Martha Fair
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10:02 AM on 02/13/2012
I have repeatedly posted the fact that the 10 poorest states in the nation are all Republican controlled and most have already adopted the Republican Austerity measure "Right to Work" so why do they insist on voting for them over and over. What does it take for them to notice that voting Republican is a sure route to poverty...a sledgehammer on the head? I just don't get it?
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04:09 AM on 02/14/2012
Depends on how you define poor." Those states also have a very low cost of living. If you look at the three states with the greatest debt and inability to fiance their operations, it is California, New York and Chicago. None of those are Republican bastions.

I think you rely more on ideological bigotry than facts and financial realities to make your judgements.
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jmdziuban1
Aspiring ne'er do not-so-well
03:14 AM on 02/13/2012
Everyone in Portugal must accept lower wages, higher taxes, and fewer services, so that banks can continue to profit. Does that make sense?
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peacekitten
primum non nocere.
03:49 AM on 02/13/2012
no.  but that's exactly why those with the most political power will try to force it upon them.
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ajustman
09:51 AM on 02/13/2012
The banks need to pay for healtcare
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jmdziuban1
Aspiring ne'er do not-so-well
03:12 AM on 02/13/2012
Spending cuts and tax hikes did not cause the recession in Portugal, the global financial collapse brought about by the big banks caused the recession in Portugal. The spending cuts and tax hikes the big banks and the IMF now insist upon, are just making the situation worse. Austerity doesn't work, but the banks will except nothing but.
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VPerry24
Carpe Diem!
05:36 AM on 02/13/2012
2 words - Goldman Sachs!
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04:12 AM on 02/14/2012
As a reminder, Obama took 5 of the 8 heads of Goldman Sachs from the credit default days, the very architects of the problem, and put them in charge of every financial aspect of your life.
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04:13 AM on 02/14/2012
No, spending more than you take in caused the problem. They just ran out of a partner and an enabler with the banks. Basic math caught up to Portugal. It is that simple.
foubabou
Mean People Suck
03:08 AM on 02/13/2012
Much like the Social Security system in the US, European benefit systems were created when there were more putting in than taking out. Europe continued to add more and better benefits and the US began robbing the SS funds leaving govt IOUs that are looking to be worthless.

Europe began giving 13th-15th month checks, socialized medicine and high retirement benefits when age and salary was much lower. When the benefits prove unsustainable over time people aren't willing to give up things they were given. So they borrow hoping thigs will change and when things get worse the powers that be begin to cut back. Finally, people's eyes begin to open.

In Portugal pensions at 65 can easily approach 100% of your preretirement salary. Not such a burden when people were making 500-1000 Euros a year but a little silly when salaries of 6, 8, 10,000 Euros/monthly are common. The US is already to 67 and talking about higher.

After paying for 40 years into the US Social Security system I'll draw $1800+/- at 66. Eight years paying into Portugal's social system will reap significantly more that that ($2500-$3000) at 65 provided no more cuts.

Yes, things got to change and people are going to hurt. You can blame the banks, Wall Street, 1%ers, 99%ers, the poor, the unemployed, politicians, voters, insurance companies, gas station attendents or the middle class. The true reason the world is in this mess is staring back at you in the mirror.
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shaunmarie
Proud Member of the 47%
03:33 AM on 02/13/2012
You don't know much about Europe, nor about our benefits systems.

In exchange for our relatively decent benefit systems, we pay high taxes, and take relatively low wages.

With the introduction of the Euro, the Eurozone countries (except for France and Germany) suddenly faced a real inflation rate of 100% against our sovereign currencies, while wages and pensions stayed flat - pensioners who would have been able to enjoy a relatively comfortable old age suddenly could no longer afford even the basics.

And - no one here is earning 5 - 10k Euro per month! Average wages hover around 1000 Euro per month.
foubabou
Mean People Suck
04:29 AM on 02/13/2012
"relatively" decent benefit system?
"relatively" low wages?
"relatively" comfortable old age?

Doesn't prefacing everything with "relatively" kinda change the meaning? Like saying ...more or less decent benefit system......kinda low wages.........and sorta comfortable old age? Meaning not really decent........not really low..........and uncomfortable old age?

I came to Europe 4 years ago and even after the recent cuts am making significantly more than 5K. Most of the people I know and/or spend time with make as much or more than I. So when you say "no one here (Europe) is earning 5-10K......." you are either knowingly being untruthful or know even less about Europe than you claim I know.

Yes, there are people hurting. There are people hurting in every country in the world. There will always be poverty and always be hunger. One thing the Europe I know has over cultures like the US is most families still pull together for the group. Well, "relatively" for the group.

Income taxes are not much different from the US and while there are a lot of consumption taxes you don't pay those unless you consume.
foubabou
Mean People Suck
04:57 AM on 02/13/2012
If you truely believe NO ONE is earning more that 5K Euro a month you know even less about Europe that you claim I do.

European income taxes aren't that much different from US taxes. There are a lot of consumption taxes here but there is a simple way to cut down on those. Cut down on your consumption.
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MarxEngelsLeninTrotsky
Einstein: Socialism is the way forward.
01:44 AM on 02/13/2012
Dismantle the banks.

They have to much power.
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SPacific
Get a clue, then get a life
12:53 AM on 02/13/2012
The real question is: Will Rome be next? After all, we all know how fond the Romans are of imitating the Greeks.......
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11:51 PM on 02/12/2012
BOO FRIGGING HOO.

They forged a country that couldn’t afford how they lived. They chose to be lazy and to live under subsidies and elected politicians who promised the moon and no one could do some basic math to see that is it all impossible.

It was selfishness, impracticality and ridiculousness that created this situation. The same thing for Greece and eventually the US will have to have its reckoning as well.

Don't live beyond your means. It is simple. If you want more, earn more. You can't have everything, and the rules of politics and society need to make sure you have a fair chance but not a guaranteed result that is borne by someone else.

No sympathy for Greece, Portugal or the coming storm in the US.
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jmdziuban1
Aspiring ne'er do not-so-well
03:18 AM on 02/13/2012
They seemed to be doing fine, even the banks agreed it was so, until the banks crashed the global economy. Suddenly, the banks recognized what everybody else, but not the banks, was doing wrong.
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04:20 AM on 02/14/2012
No, they weren't. It was just a shell game and the banks ended up having to just put two shells on the table instead of three. Basic math caught up with them, and the fiscal crisis revealed the folly and ridiculousness inherent in the system by no longer helping people rationalize for the short-term.
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koos458
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10:33 PM on 02/12/2012
IMF bankers are the biggest crooks in the history of mankind.
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04:20 AM on 02/14/2012
Yet the IMF is almost exclusively run by European Socialists.
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koos458
The Weather is Aways Nicer in Coos Bay
11:34 AM on 02/16/2012
There is no such thing as a rich socialist.
09:45 PM on 02/12/2012
The disasters in the european countries can all be ultimately traced back to what American banks and Wall Street did. Why else would billions and trillions be paid out by our government to the banks if not because of the greed and corruption of wall street, the banks and the 1%?

So far this country has spent 26 trillion to support and bailout the banks and wall street, with AIG and other financial institutes being bailed out at the same time they had to pay foreign banks for their duplicity, greed and fraud.

Something the GOP does not want Americans to know because it happened on their watch under Bush. Which is one of many reasons why 238 historians all agree, Bush was the worst president this country has had since the days of the American Revolution.
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04:22 AM on 02/14/2012
No, it can't. The banks going down meant there were not more banks to borrow money from and issue debt notes to; it robbed them of a partner in crime and a short-term conspirator and did not create the habit of countries spending more than they were taking in.
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SPQR1775
09:36 PM on 02/12/2012
THE ELITES ARE AT IT AGAIN, TIME FOR THE NEW WORLD REVOLUTIONARY'S TO ARISE. CHANGE IS ON THE WAY!
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12:18 AM on 02/13/2012
The elites did not vote in socialist policies and governmental policies for 30 years that were both unfinanced and unsustainable. That was the people and the socialist mindset. They demanded things their resources could not pay for and got it. Now the bill is due.

Wall Street and elites have nothing to do with the stupid choices the people of Greece and Portugal made themselves.
theaustralian
to the far left of right wing democrats
12:51 AM on 02/13/2012
you dont understand the current crisis.
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shaunmarie
Proud Member of the 47%
03:36 AM on 02/13/2012
Blahboy, you don't actually know what you are talking about. Go lick a toad.
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CarmenCameron
Hoping 4 a US version of the Arab Spring
08:38 PM on 02/12/2012
We've seen all of this before. In France in 1789.

Ultimately, history proves, We the People always win.
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TAIsabel
Suffer no fools.
09:16 PM on 02/12/2012
Just like a pyramid, the top can only stand if the base is solid. The top 1% has cannibalized the 99%, the base is gone, the top will fall. As you say, history has proven it over and over again. The people sooner or later refuse to "eat cake".
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11:57 PM on 02/12/2012
Sorry, but this doesn't hold up with any degree of examination and the socialist government that has run Portugal for years and years. The 99% in Portugal cannibalized themselves. They voted themselves subsidies and funding and entitlements far beyond what the nation could bear to pay.

Eventually, basic math will catch up to you. That is what happened here. No one robbed Portugal. What happened was the undisciplined, selfish children were put in charge of a country. It is happening in the US now, and crosses Party lines. But only one party is trying to reinforce the selfishness and capitalize on the idiocy of the 99%. (And a hint... they are in power now.)
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ajustman
09:43 AM on 02/13/2012
The top has it all
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Peter007
09:41 PM on 02/12/2012
In 1789 the government of France had taken everything including the freedom from the population.
That's whats going non now in the US.
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SeeDaddy
Ridicule is the Burden of Genius
10:20 PM on 02/12/2012
The "gov;t" was the Vatican ordained royalty, who were obscenely wealthy.
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harveyr2
Be skeptical of politicians or be their pawn
07:51 PM on 02/12/2012
Once again the soft and greedy demand that their government continue to coddle them with middle class welfare benefits that society can not afford.

Wake up; the middle class welfare state is dead and its not the fault of the 1% successful, its the fault of those too stupid to understand that promises of dead or out-of-office politicians can not be kept.
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CarmenCameron
Hoping 4 a US version of the Arab Spring
08:47 PM on 02/12/2012
You are severely confused.

The "soft and greedy" are the 1%, not the hard working middle class.
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Ashok Hegde
06:19 AM on 02/13/2012
This "Hard working middle class"...are they the same people who watch 7 hours of TV a day and don't have college degrees?
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SeeDaddy
Ridicule is the Burden of Genius
10:32 PM on 02/12/2012
Please explain why workers"socialist" France, Germany, Norway aren't complaining. Maybe the the problem isn't socialism, but the big banks in France, Germany, Switzerland, and elsewhere, used the PIIGS as low-cost laborers and sucked the wealth out of those countries instead of investing in them to create high-value industries.
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fried52
"Just the Facts Ma'am Just the Facts"
11:25 PM on 02/12/2012
Nailed it
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12:07 AM on 02/13/2012
Actually, you cannot cite Norway in your example at all. Norway has a government that actually turns a profit because they own the Arctic Oil Fields, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars every year. Norway also keeps their taxes insanely high and their benefits to immigrants extremely limited (in duration or funding) to discourage people from moving there except for their even allotments of traveling and 7-year worker visas.

You also conspicuously omitted Sweden, a nation whose social services are collapsing precipitously because of the financial strain and the inability to keep decent doctors working in the public sector. The Swedish version of the NHS is beyond bankrupt and is now cannibalizing other social programs. The nation simply cannot afford the entitlements it has guaranteed for the next three generations.

More coming....