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Mitt Romney's Stance On Auto Bailout Doesn't Reflect Local Feelings On The Economy

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First Posted: 02/15/2012 3:25 pm Updated: 02/15/2012 10:58 pm

DETROIT -- Three and a half years ago, as the auto companies at the heart of this battered city faced bankruptcy, Texas Bar and Grill on Kercheval Street on Detroit's east side was deserted. People just stopped coming, says Rose Tucker, a bartender at Texas Bar for 15 years.

And when a few people did trickle in, many didn't have money to drink. They'd play pool, or start up the jukebox, and smoke.

Today, from the outside, the bar looks run down, and it's not entirely clear whether it's open for business. But the dark, wood-paneled place is again attracting auto workers from the nearby plant, day laborers hoping to find work and anyone else down on their luck. During lunchtime at the bar last week, about a dozen people were nursing drinks, chatting with friends, eating or watching news broadcasts of a local murder investigation.

The anxious, cautious optimism in the smoky air at the Texas Bar now reflects a shared feeling among the inhabitants of Detroit and its suburbs, voiced by Tucker, the bartender: "Things are getting better."

That outsiders and presidential candidates still question the necessity of the auto bailout -- a question with not just local, but also regional and national implications -- somewhat baffles those here who feel as if they are just beginning to emerge from the added weight of the nation's financial crisis more than three years ago, the ones who are seeing the bailout's benefits.

On Tuesday, presidential candidate and former Michigan resident Mitt Romney wrote in an op-ed in the Detroit News, "The president tells us that without his intervention things in Detroit would be worse."

He called the auto industry bailout, "crony capitalism on a grand scale," writing, "I believe that without his intervention things there would be better."

But interviews with those who lived through the near-collapse of the auto industry here in 2008 paint a more nuanced picture than the one Romney presents. In Michigan, unemployment is dropping, and the auto industry on which it depends is adding jobs and making money.

Anyone still debating whether or not the bailout was worth it is "crazy," said Kenny Akinwale, owner of The Detroit Seafood Market, a restaurant downtown. Business at the restaurant was really slow until the end of 2010, when lunch time traffic started picking up. By the end of 2011, Akinwale had doubled sales compared with 2010.

"You can clearly see all of the company executives who come in here," he said, referring to executives from General Motors, Quicken Loans, Blue Cross Blue Shield and Detroit's energy provider DTE who are back spending money. "You can see a shift in the city."

The federal government invested about $80 billion in Detroit's automakers and suppliers following the economic downturn in 2008. About $60 million went to GM and Chrysler.

Three years later, in his state of the union address in January, President Barack Obama touted a revived auto industry as an accomplishment of his administration. Earlier this month, Chrysler, the smallest of the Detroit automakers, posted its first profit since 1997, and it has added some 9,400 jobs since the bailout. On Thursday, GM plans to release earnings and is expected to post its second annual profit in a row, following five years of successive losses.

"We can't go back to 2009 and say, 'OK, as an experiment, let's see what happens if we let the automakers crash and burn,'" said Charles Ballard, a professor of economics at Michigan State University.

Though Michigan hit a high of 14.1 percent unemployment in 2009 and has been regularly among the worst states for job losses, unemployment is improving. Unemployment had dropped to 9.3 percent in December, though the rate is still higher than the national average.

That may be in part because a lot of people have left the state: Census data shows Michigan is the only state in the union which lost people between 2000 and 2010. But state has gained 100,000 jobs in the past two years, said Ballard. That doesn't come close to offsetting the 800,000 jobs lost between 2000 and 2009, but it's better than a continuing downward spiral, he said.

There could have been nearly 1 million job losses immediately following the automaker collapse, mostly in Michigan, according to Ballard. Instead of unemployment hovering around 14 percent, he said, it could have been closer to 20 percent.

In his recent op-ed, Romney -- who also opposed the bailout in an op-ed in The New York Times in 2008 -- argued that automakers should have been left to go bankrupt on their own, letting the courts force the companies to restructure. As the son of both a previous Michigan governor and former head of the American Motors Corporation, Romney says he speaks from experience. He was born in Detroit, after all.

The bailout gave the unions too much power in the new companies, Romney argued, and gives the government a large stake in General Motors that it should divest itself of immediately.

Yet in the fall of 2008 and early 2009, there weren't any banks willing to help GM or Chrysler through bankruptcy. If a company goes into bankruptcy without a bank willing to fund operations for a while, companies typically go out of business and are sold piece by piece.

Without someone stepping in, it seemed GM and Chrysler would sink. And Ford, which didn't take bailout money, urged the government to come forward. If the two other automotive giants in town went under, they could drag Ford under, too, CEO Alan Mulally told Congress.

At the time a senior official in the President's automotive task force said on background during a White House conference call that the government never expected to recoup the money it invested in the automakers. It was simply trying to avoid a disaster.

And while a disaster on a national scale has been avoided, residents in Michigan are still recovering from the shock of the downturn.

"For a person like me, I depend on wealthy people," said Dave Taormina, an independent contractor who frequents the Texas Bar and works primarily in the nearby wealthy Grosse Pointe suburbs. He had some dry periods where he didn't work at all. Now he's got some leads. He priced out a job for one GM executive who wants to build a glass shelf around their kitchen to show off a collection of hot sauce bottles. But the exec hasn't committed yet.

"[People] don't want to let go of their money," Taormina said. "For guys like us, it's still very difficult."

Gene Lovell, CEO of First State Bank in St. Clair Shores, a town just outside of Detroit, said people feel better about the economy, but it's still not where it was before the crash.

"People are still skittish, and are making sure that everything has stabilized before they put themselves out too forward," Lovell said.

The bailout has not resolved the financial struggles of Detroit itself, and the auto industry's recent success may never trickle down to the city government. Detroit's government is in crisis: The state has threatened to install an emergency manager to run the city, has laid off thousands of workers, and could ultimately face bankruptcy.

But the broader upswing in the regional economy is starting to show up in some surprising places, like the state capital, Lansing. When the state closed out its books for 2011, it realized tax revenue was up a bit. The state was surprised to find it has a $457 million surplus on the books. And, thanks to deep cost cutting moves taken in recent years by Gov. Rick Snyder (R) -- some in the areas of education and local government -- the state has no major deficits pending for one of the first times in a decade. The state may actually be able to use that money to do something, like hire back teachers or hire police officers.

As HuffPost's Jason Linkins reports, Snyder has cautioned candidates against criticizing the bailout.

"I would have had some differences on how they did it, but I'm not going to second guess it," Snyder told The New York Times. "The more important things is the results. And the auto industry is doing very well today."

Despite the confidence of politicians like Snyder, given that so much of the local economy is dependent on the auto industry, people are waiting to see if the automakers are truly doing better before making large investments.

Lovell's chain of banks are primarily in Macomb County, just north of Detroit. Everyone there has ties to the industry, he said. When the automakers are losing money and laying off people, it hurts everyone from restaurateurs, retailers, cleaning services, office good suppliers, and everyone in between.

Business leaders are "hopeful that the auto companies have in fact recovered, but it's still a big question mark: are they going to be able to sustain that recovery," Lovell said.

Ron Hoffman, owner of advertising firm RJ Hoffman and Associates, is seeing that first hand. He doesn't do advertising for automakers; his clients are primarily dentists and restaurants. Business has been flat or down over the course of the past three years, but in the fourth quarter of 2011, he signed two new customers. They were his first new customers in three years.

"It's just a trickle," he said. Some of the restaurants he works for are doing much better, doubling business over the course of the past 12 months, but they're still hesitant to start advertising more. "It'll get better. It's just going to take time."

Not everyone in Michigan is comfortable with the bailout. According to Public Policy Polling, over 60 percent of Michigan's Republicans oppose the auto bailout -- but only 36 percent of the state's overall population opposes the measure. Lovell said he's worried the auto bailout will teach business owners that if times get tough, the government will step in. He finds himself talking with customers about self-reliance a lot, he said.

"We need to be prepared as business people and as individuals to pick ourselves up by our boostraps and get things going," Lovell said. A lot of people in Michigan, he said, have a lot of respect for Ford Motor Co., which didn't take any bailout money. "The people of Ford feel some pride, and I think that's very warranted."

"They've shown we can do it. That's a great message for Michigan."

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story stated that Mitt Romney's Detroit News op-ed was published Thursday. It was published Tuesday.
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DETROIT -- Three and a half years ago, as the auto companies at the heart of this battered city faced bankruptcy, Texas Bar and Grill on Kercheval Street on Detroit's east side was deserted. People ju...
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wethepeople3884 05:14 PM on 02/15/2012
The hillarious thing is that there is a tiny granule of truth to romney's second to last position when he said he kind of advocated for what obama actually ended up doing. Romney essentially let the article be titled let detroit go bankrupt but if you read the article, it became clear he was advocating for a managed bankruptcy which is what ended up happening. But romney has been so dishonest about the  Read More...
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Oakland
10:29 AM on 02/19/2012
First, they bailed out the banks, not the automotives. Every dime they automotive companies got was a loan for which they put up collatoral - totally unlike the banks. Second, is Mr. Lovell the BANKER concerned that his bailout might teach banks to lean on the government when they make bad decisions? The inconsistency of thought and pure stupidity of conservatives and Republicans never cease to amaze me. They keep yelling about letting the free market prevail when there isn't any free market. It is all owned controlled and manipulated by the very people who claim it should be free. They want to keep all of the profits, and they want to socialize all of their losses. When tax dollars go to corporations, they call it capitalism. When tax dollars go to people, they call it welfare. As if we don't all know that the biggest welfare queens on the globe are the politicians and top .05%. By the time Romney and Santorum get out of Michigan, seniors., women, workers, and minorities will all be solidly in Obama's tent. The biggest reason to re-elect Obama is Republicans.
05:35 PM on 02/17/2012
Romney was just speaking from experience, that he learned at Bain. Buy the company, sell off it's assets, outsource it, then let it go bankrupt. Then he and his fellow investors would make a bundle from it. Simple.
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sonoflars
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional
02:15 PM on 02/17/2012
Either Mitt doesn't understand the automotive business or he is lying about it. If the government hadn't stepped in and saved GM and Chrysler, our entire manufacturing base would have collapsed. There would have been a daisy chain of bankruptcy through the supply chain and not only wouldn't there be a GM or Chrysler, Ford would be gone too along with Cat., John Deere, and on and on. They all use the same manufacturing supply chain and once you board up some of these facilities, they just don't come back... Mitt doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Oakland
10:44 AM on 02/19/2012
You can add the transplants down in the right-to-work states. If the suppliers had tanked, they would have tanked too. The biggest obstacle to this country's recovery and progress is Republicans and unchecked capitalism. Global corporations own the globe. It's all their backyard. It's us who are still stuck with the borders they abandoned and capitalize on.

"The waning of the American era of global dominance has caused a good deal of hand wringing in US foreign policy circles and denial by many in the political establishment. It is the country's lack of preparation for this historic transition which should worry Americans, not the change itself. Just when the US should be strengthening university education to produce a more cosmopolitan citizenry that will deal intelligently with its new position in the world, public expenditures on higher education are declining at unprecedented levels. "

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/02/2012271229581421.html
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07:26 AM on 02/17/2012
Republican plan to fix the economy: feed the poor to the rich, until there are no more poor people. At that point, feed the middle class to the rich, until there is no more middle class. At that point, declare war upon the entire planet, until there is no more life on the planet. Of course, this makes no sense, but what, exactly, about Republicans, makes any sense?
06:56 AM on 02/17/2012
This is what happens when you have found a way to live in the last century.
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webwzrd
Reality is liberal indoctrina­tion.
09:41 PM on 02/16/2012
This is why Republicans were so up in arms over the Clint Eastwood Super Bowl. It rubs their face in how wrong they were on this. Obama is rubbing it into how wrong they are on everything else.
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MamaBird62
09:03 PM on 02/16/2012
"The federal government invested about $80 billion in Detroit's automakers and suppliers following the economic downturn in 2008. About $60 million went to GM and Chrysler."

I think the writer needs to double check this. Chrysler got $17 billion, and GM around $7 billion in federal loans.
05:30 PM on 02/18/2012
The Obama plan of $80 billion comprised of $13 billion Cdn. or 20% of the entire package. Funny that is never mentioned stateside..........Ontario kicked in $6 billion and Ottawa $7 billion while Michigan was noted as absent from the exercise.
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06:48 PM on 02/16/2012
If Romney was president letting the auto industry fail would be crony capitalism, since his cronies are all vultures.

In fact if he was concerned about crony capitalism he wouldnt even be running. If Gordon Gecko was pres, would he think twice about usign insider info? THe modern capitalist holds up "narrow self interest" aka "greed is good" as the height of virtue.
05:53 PM on 02/16/2012
My vote for how Dems should spend their bumper sticker money:
"Michiganders who vote for Romney are damn fools."
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dsb1252
05:26 PM on 02/16/2012
If Romney wins the primary I give up.
07:42 PM on 02/16/2012
Don't hate on Romney, it's only going to make psychotic Santorum look better. Santorum has a cult behind him and do you really want HIM and his cult of crazy anti-birth control religious nutcases and/or businessmen up against Obama? I know first instinct would be to say yes, so everyone would realize how crazy he was, but obviously there are enough deranged US citizens that Santorum has actually been doing WELL. It's a sad state of affairs for the country... it's like a car wreck and you can't look away. At least Romney is sane, even if he's an elitist. He's far more moderate than Santorum, (cont.)
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webwzrd
Reality is liberal indoctrina­tion.
09:39 PM on 02/16/2012
Sontorum lost his Senate seat by 18%. The more he speaks, the more average Americans are going HUH? Did he actually just say that? The Republicans pushing this contraceptives argument is great, because Santorum is staunchly against any form of birth control, and thats a great argument for an election in 2012.
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dsb1252
09:57 PM on 02/16/2012
I should have made myself clear. "If Romney wins the MICHIGAN primary I give up." He is running an ad hear blaming Obama for the problems with the auto companies. If they would have followed what Romney wanted the companies would have liquidated. The job loss, including the supply base, was estimated at 2,000,000. The largest manufacturing sector in the United States would have vanished.
07:43 PM on 02/16/2012
(cont.) and at least we know he would exercise *some* decent judgement in government, no matter what he says now (the obama-care like health bill in massachusets comes to mind). Truth is, I think Romney is kind of stuck. He doesn't have enough gusto or belief in far right craziness to get Santorum's crowd, but when he starts to lean towards being more of a (right-leaning) moderation (which is how he practiced politics in Massachusetts), the GOP calls him out on "not being a true conservative". Then he's probably worried about alienating all republicans because of claims like these so he tries to temper his moderat-ism back towards the right. If he says screw the extreme right wing, and leans more towards moderate positions and into the left... he probably realizes that he'd be screwed because he'd alienate the far right as I said but also a lot of conservatives by association (fox news propaganda and all that), he can't really depend on the moderates or left-leaning moderates either because most of them would choose obama over him. I, for one, if forced to choose between Santorum and Romney (with a gun to my head) would say Romney 10 times over. The closer Santorum gets to the presidency, the closer the country gets to spontaneous implosion in a cloud of women hating, gay bashing, birth control eliminating smoke.
05:26 PM on 02/16/2012
Mr Romney is so out of touch.
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authorized-user
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03:53 PM on 02/16/2012
Who was talking, the liberal Mitt or the conservative Mitt?
Can he say both things at the same time?
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bettestreep
No more wire hangers EVER!!!
09:56 PM on 02/16/2012
It was MAVERICK Mitt...

Oh wait... that was the other one....
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Patriot86
Compassion is the basis of all morality.
02:53 PM on 02/16/2012
These figures show how out of touch the GOP is with reality...over 60 % opposed the auto bailout in Michigan?
01:20 PM on 02/16/2012
you're thanking our governor for "deep cost-cutting"??? oh, please. he took office, sent us into the red w/ tax cuts for corporations that CAUSED the crisis that enabled him to pass his unconstitutional Emergency Financial Management Law-we call it the FML-that disenfranchises tens of thousands of Michiganders. It also invalidates union contracts. He has INCREASED the tax burden on the poor, while giving deep tax cuts for corporations. and now? Michigan has passed a voter ID law, which means my BLIND friend has to get a photo ID in order to vote, something she has no need of, and has never had a need of in order to vote or take care of any of her business EVER in her life.
Do some research, Huffpost.
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womanwithstixs
Just because you're paranoid
11:14 AM on 02/16/2012
Uncontrolled bankruptcy, however, would have jeopardized at least 1.4 million jobs in the industry. That’s partly why Michigan’s own Republican Gov. Rick Snyder even warned Romney and other GOP candidates not to “second-guess” the rescue or its success. But as Michigan Rep. Gary Peters put it, Romney prefers to remain “willfully ignorant of the facts.”