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Payroll Tax Deal Finalized Before Vote

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First Posted: 02/16/2012 6:58 pm Updated: 02/17/2012 8:28 am

WASHINGTON -- Lawmakers signed off on the final details of the bill to extend a payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits Thursday, likely clearing the way for the $152 billion measure to pass before Congress takes a break next week.

The final obstacle was getting enough senators to sign the compromise bill worked out by a House and Senate conference committee. Three Republican senators refused to sign on, and Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) only signed reluctantly because half of the $30 billion unemployment extension is paid for by extracting $15 billion from the federal pension system.

And it took a personal appeal from President Barack Obama and a promise to stop targeting government workers in the future because many of Cardin's constituents are federal employees.

"One of the things he brought up, I brought up, was the impact on federal workers and what is likely to transpire the rest of this Congress," Cardin said. "I think there's a resolve to say, 'Look, this is it.'"

Cardin could have expressed his objection by not signing the conference report, but Sens. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho), Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) and John Barasso (R-Wyo.) all refused to back the deal, complaining they had not been involved in the negotiations.

"I didn't know their reasons. I still don't know their reasons," Cardin said, echoing House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), who set up the deal by dropping GOP opposition in his chamber.

"There was an awful lot of conversation going on," Boehner told reporters Thursday. "Matter of fact, if I recall correctly, there were two or three public meetings where they were all present, so for someone to say they weren't involved really would surprise me."

The bill would also prevent a cut to doctors' fees in Medicare. That portion costs $22 billion, and also had to be off-set with cuts elsewhere.

The extension of the 2 percent payroll tax cut -- which costs $100 billion and is worth about $1,000 to an average family -- will be added to the deficit.

While the agreement prevents extended federal unemployment benefits from expiring, it adds several conditions, including a Republican proposal to allow states to drug test the jobless for the first time. It will also reduce the duration of federal benefits, which kick in for workers who use up the standard 26 weeks of state benefits. Under the deal, the maximum duration of combined state and federal benefits will gradually decline from 99 to 73 weeks.

But in the short term, several states will get a boost. In December, Congress reauthorized federal aid for two months, but did so in a way that would cause the final 20 weeks of benefits to phase out in one state after another over the course of the year. Michigan and Maine already "triggered off" the federal Extended Benefits program, which provides those final weeks of compensation.

According to a summary of the new legislation, states that lose eligibility for Extended Benefits from March to May will receive 10 extra weeks of benefits as long as their unemployment rates are above 8.5 percent (which would benefit Michigan, but not Maine). A Democratic aide said at least nine other states losing Extended Benefits would also receive the 10-week boost during that time.

Without a deal, the duration of jobless benefits would fall to 26 weeks, and waves of people receiving benefits under federal programs would stop getting checks. Congress has let benefits lapse four times in the past two years, including for a seven-week stretch in the summer of 2010.

"If passed, this legislation will also guarantee that hardworking Americans looking for a job in this tough economy will not have the safety net ripped out from under them," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

That applies to people like Steve Bachman of Costa Mesa, Calif., who said he lost his $111,000-a-year job as product manager at an aerospace manufacturing company in March 2011. His current "tier" of federal unemployment insurance will expire shortly before the end of the month, meaning that if Congress somehow goofed on its payroll tax deal, he would be left hanging.

"My unemployment benefits are $1,800 a month, which pays my mortgage and my health insurance," Bachman said in an email. "I am still going negative each month about $2,000 even with unemployment benefits."

Bachman, 52, said he has been the runner up in three job interviews in the past 10 months, but mostly he said joblessness has been a mix of anxiety and boredom. What really rankles him is Republican reluctance to reauthorize benefits and the suggestion -- baked into the legislation via its drug-testing provision -- that unemployed people are on drugs.

"They're wanting to drug test everybody. Why would you want to do that? Most people are out there trying to find a job," Bachman said in an interview. "It just shows they think everyone on unemployment is sitting around smoking pot. If the Republicans had their way they would get rid of [unemployment insurance]."

Although Reid said Democrats had to accept some of the new conditions on unemployment insurance, he agreed with Bachman's assessment.

"People who are drawing those benefits are obligated to look for work, and they do that," Reid said. "We were unwilling to do some of the mean-spirited things to further embarrass people who are recipients of unemployment insurance."

While many insiders said they expected the deal to pass, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) suggested balky Senate Republicans could still pose a problem.

"It goes without saying that this deal will not pass unless leader McConnell gives it his blessing," said Schumer, noting that House leaders are doing so.

"I don't get how not one Senate Republican conferee would sign a deal negotiated by their own party and endorsed by Speaker Boehner," Schumer said.

"There appears to be strange divisions emerging between the House and Senate Republicans these days," Schumer added. "Well, this agreement that helps middle-class families, senior citizens and those who have been looking for work is too important to be jeopardized by political rivalries between Republicans in the House and Republicans in the Senate."

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wethepeople3884 01:32 AM on 02/17/2012
How could bohner not know why the republicans in the senate on the relevant committee would not support the bill? Dont they talk amongst each other? So strange that the house republicans passed something that the senate republicans wouldnt support - thought it would be the opposite. Bohner has proved many times he is a terrible speaker so confusion in his ranks in the one piece of business they will  Read More...
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06:09 AM on 02/26/2012
The jobs are gone and they are not coming back. Period. Technology and many, many other factors have made thousands of careers us oldsters use to do: obsolete. Ask any one in sales or account management how hard it is. That use to be a good job but sadly so many jobs are simply "Gone With The Wind". So many companies use to have a sales force and staff to support the sales force...now customers just go to company website to place orders and sales is done via the internet, eliminating tons of jobs at any given company.
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07:26 AM on 02/24/2012
I'm all for tax cuts. Makes no difference what party does what. The only party we all should favor is . . . PARTY ON FOLKS!
12:10 PM on 02/22/2012
Ok, the Republicans need to screen the unemployed. Who will pay for this? Isn't this adding to the already high debt Americans inherited under the previous administration? The Republicans screaming cut the deficit but on the other hand secretly adding to the deficit by imposing another debt. Please pass this additional spending to all Republicans who voted for this Act.
08:19 PM on 02/18/2012
As always Republicans caved in. They are mostly RINO's.And the Speaker of the House only two heart beats away from the Presidency is the worst one.
We really have a one party system they are all the same Democrats and Republicans. They care for their positions and their money only. We need a term limits. Let's all vote against the incumbents.
And vote for Ron Paul for President.
05:48 PM on 02/18/2012
If the repubs had a clear-cut presidential candidate and had any real public support, there would have been no deal. Thanks for coming back to the real world, if only for a bit...
01:00 PM on 02/18/2012
It took a personal guarantee from Obama to stop targeting Federal employees from future cuts, and the federal employees basically took the position that "THIS IS IT" !!. People working for the federal government can take a much larger beating before they catch up to the horrors being experienced by non-government workers. What many of them need is a dose of the "real world", they really wouldn't like it.

Drug testing unemployed people that have been laid off because of the current economic crisis would be very wrong. But, those who have been "out of work" for 2 to 3 generations and have babies to receive benefits rather than working should be tested monthly. This is an area that no politician has had the guts to address although it is a HUGE problem . I know many "families" that have lived this way since the birth of their first child and not one of them would pass this test. Many of them have small jobs off the books that enable them to purchase their drug of choice,these are funds that would have to go to rent and food if we wouldn't so happy to pick up the tab.
08:10 PM on 02/18/2012
They should drug test our Congressman too. I wonder how many would pass.
09:00 AM on 02/18/2012
Those who insist on punishing unemployment benefit recipients by subjecting them to the humiliation of drug testing without probable cause need to keep these words from Thomas Jefferson and our founders in mind:

"...when a long train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, envinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty to throw off such Government, an to provide new Guards for their future Security."

The Right of Revolution (Insurrection) is a natural right and cannot be revoked by governments.
11:12 AM on 02/18/2012
I wonder did Mr. Jefferson pass that little tidbit of information along to his slaves?
08:26 PM on 02/18/2012
Just for your information there were slaves for thousands of years. Blacks had slaves as well as whites were slaves too. To judge someone in the 21st Century who lived in the 17th Century is not fare. Yet in our Constitution it said All men are created equal. Not some and not most but all. Don't you think it was a g big step ahead.
08:12 PM on 02/18/2012
Support the 2nd Amendment of our Constitution and Vote for Ron Paul
06:04 AM on 02/18/2012
I don't think drug testing under these conditions is wrong. People who are breaking the law should not receive any benefits until he/she is clean and available to work. Most of the unemployed want a job but there are plenty who don't. I don't have all the answers but then no one who has commented has them either.
08:07 AM on 02/18/2012
The whole concept of drug testing is wrong and this practice needs to stop. If drug testing is so good for the nation why don't we drug test everyone daily and publish the results ? Not just illegal drugs there are millions of people taking controlled substances without doctors approval. So since I'm a Rastafarian with a doctors recommendation living in California where me taking cannabis for my depression is acceptable. Personally I think unemployment insurance should be eliminated totally if they can't afford the program anymore. Further erosion of my personal liberties and being forced to suffer from my depression symptoms while looking for work to get unemployment is just unacceptable in a democratic republic but we live in the most successful communist country in the world so what can we expect.
11:36 PM on 02/18/2012
You certainly have a right to your opinion and there are cases that make the use of some drugs legal. That is why I said "who are breaking the law". You do not have the right to put me in danger because you are high while driving nor cost me more fore a product because you are too stoned to do your job efficiently. Your coment that thiscountry is a communist country makes everything you say suspect.
09:38 PM on 02/17/2012
Drug testing is class warfare. Worse its a tool used by the paid lobbyists and and paid politicians to divide us, to have one non-rich person to attack another non-rich person. Middle class is not rich.

I reel against this nonsensical desire to discriminate against those collecting unemployment by subjecting them to drug-testing and implicit labeling them as losers. "You, Mr/Mrs/Miss Unemployed are a loser!" Worse, this move give political cover to idiots like the Florida governor who made the huge mistake to drug test those collecting benefits.

Veto this until it is amended.
09:29 PM on 02/17/2012
Awwww...Senators Crap-o, Kyl, and Barasso, won't sign because their feeling are hurt, because they say they weren't included in the negotiations...Well, maybe they ought to realize this isn't about them, and their fragile ego's...These Republicans, are just such babies...
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08:48 PM on 02/17/2012
They should call this "Urine for Dollars Act."
07:51 PM on 02/17/2012
Least there is something Congress is actually working on and may actually get done that will benefit everyone one way or another.
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07:45 PM on 02/17/2012
What happen to the principle of off sets? Discontinue the Bush tax "give a ways" for Millionaires that are creating the slave wage jobs in Communist China! This will start to address the over-spending!
08:36 PM on 02/18/2012
Some of our Corporations are moving their factories to China, India and elsewhere where they pay not only lower wages but also lower TAXES. They can not bring their profit back home because they would be taxed again. We are the only Country that does that. If they were able to repatriate their money to the USA they could invest it at home too. This way they are invest it outside of the USA. We have to vote all incumbents out and have term limit. Tax and spend policies never bring about prosperity. Only Inflation.
06:44 PM on 02/17/2012
Who is paying for this? We go deeper in debt and those with their hands out could care less as long as they get theirs.
07:56 PM on 02/17/2012
Well those with their hands out are actually many people who are not benefiting by what is sold to us as an improvement in our economy like those who lost their jobs and can't actually find one that pays enough to pay their mortgage and all their other bills, not like many of us who are fortunate to have a job. I was in that position some years ago and would never want to experience that ever again.
11:38 PM on 02/17/2012
It has to stop at some point or are you advocating that we just provide until everybody is broke? I spent 30 years in the military and I don't remember many people running to us to get a job. If they were truly in need and wanted a job they would take whatever pays the bills. I did not buy a McMansion, I drive a 1996 car and don't buy things I can't afford. If the statistics are correct 50% of the population pays no taxes yet are given the most. This has got to stop or we are all doomed.
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03:23 PM on 02/17/2012
so the democrats are definding Social Security even more...