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Online Piracy: Youth Shaping Future Of Online TV, Movies, Music

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First Posted: 02/18/2012 6:33 pm Updated: 02/19/2012 3:52 pm

CHICAGO (AP) — Young people want their music, TV and movies now — even if it means they get these things illegally.

A recent Columbia University survey found, in fact, that 70 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds said they had bought, copied or downloaded unauthorized music, TV shows or movies, compared with 46 percent of all adults who'd done the same.

With such an entrenched attitude, what can be done about widespread online piracy?

Certainly law enforcement has gone after scofflaws like these, hitting them with fines and, in some cases, even jail time. Congress is considering controversial anti-piracy bills that would, among other things, forbid search engines from linking to foreign websites accused of copyright infringement. And there are lawsuits pitting media heavyweights against Internet firms — notably Viacom's billion-dollar litigation against YouTube.

But here's a radical notion to consider: What if young people who steal content weren't viewed as the problem?

What if they and advocates for maximum online access could persuade the entertainment industry to loosen its tight grip on its coveted, copyrighted material — quite the opposite of what the industry is trying to do right now?

"The real problem is not pirates downloading illegally, but a failure to innovate on the part of the content providers," says Steven Budd, a law student at Drexel University in Philadelphia.

Like it or not, that's how a lot of people of his generation view the situation. And some experts think they're gaining clout, as they insist on easy access to music and other content while the Internet world loudly protests anti-piracy legislation that it says unfairly puts the responsibility of policing piracy sites on search engines and other sites.

"We've seen the emergence of a real social movement around these issues," says Joe Karaganis, vice president of The American Assembly, a public policy institute at Columbia University, which oversaw the recent survey, funded by a grant from Google.

He's talking, in part, about "blackouts" staged by popular Internet sites that included Wikipedia, the user-generated online encyclopedia, and Reddit, the social news website. With support from Google, Facebook and Twitter, they were protesting the proposed federal anti-piracy bills.

But here's the surprising part — a lot of young people don't necessarily expect to get movies, TV shows and music for free.

"I do think people would pay for this content if it's reasonably priced and it's available when they want to watch it," says Srikant Mikkilineni, a law student at Drake University in Des Moines.

Not wanting to mar his law school record, Mikkilineni pays for the songs, movies and TV shows he downloads. But he does so grudgingly. "Right now, they want us to pay multiple times for the same content," he says, complaining that that's not reasonable.

If he buys a DVD, for instance, it's $15. He can watch it on his laptop — but it's illegal for him to copy it in order to watch it on his iPod or smart phone.

Many young people point to Apple's iTunes service as a model that could be replicated by other entertainment companies.

"iTunes changed the landscape for music because it made it far too convenient and much easier than downloading music through alternative methods (even illegal ones)," says Matt Gardner, an information technology student at Rochester Institute of Technology in New York.

But even more than convenience, a recent study at Duke University found that cost was the major factor that drives college students to copy entertainment content illegally. Researchers there found that the lower the students' income, including their parents' income, the more likely they were to search for free, illegal options.

To address the issue of cost, the study's authors suggested that universities consider making licensing agreements with services that sell entertainment content so that students could get a discount.

Cornell University is one institution that has experimented with this. From 2004 to 2006, an anonymous donor paid for two years' worth of Napster service for Cornell students, but students ultimately declined to have their student activity fees raised to continue the service because the music couldn't be played on all devices, according to the Duke study.

There are those who doubt that students would pay for content they can pirate, especially when the habit has become so ingrained.

"Nobody's going to pay you for something they can get for free," says Glenn MacDonald, an economics professor at the Olin School of Business at Washington University in St. Louis.

So he asks: What if you gave music and movies to consumers for free, or asked them to pay what they thought the content was worth?

Some bands such as Radiohead are already doing that — in essence, using their songs to build a following and entice people to pay to see them in concert and, once there, to buy their merchandise.

The song becomes the ad, MacDonald says. Or a movie on the small screen becomes the driving force for a line of merchandise or drives the wish to see it again on a big screen in 3-D or at a special theater event. A free clip from a TV show seen online draws viewers to the show.

"It's like a bar. They give you the peanuts so you buy the beer," MacDonald says.

He notes that music companies already take a cut of money made from concerts, merchandise and endorsements. So he thinks that should, at the very least, offset the cost of the recorded music to consumers, who've been increasingly willing to pay big prices to see artists live.

"Music companies would be better served by increasing their focus on how to make artists' music, and especially their concerts, even better," MacDonald says.

Nice thought, but not realistic, says Thomas Carpenter, general counsel for legislative affairs for the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, a union that represents people working in the entertainment industry.

As it stands, he says 90 percent of the earnings that a musician currently makes under a recording contract is tied directly to royalties from sales, including lawful downloads. For actors, he says, it's about 50 percent.

"There's a lot at stake — much more than most people realize," Carpenter says.

And he adds, "You have to be paid in order to be good. You have to use the funds from your projects to fund your future creativity."

Still even some people who've spent their careers defending copyrights say it's time to find some middle ground.

"It really is a failure to come up with practical, reasonable models for sales and distribution," says Michael R. Graham, a Chicago attorney who specializes in trademark and copyright law. "There's a real disconnect."

Like many, he thinks iTunes has set the standard for the future.

Another possible approach: licensing agreements — with online services, for instance, paying a fee to content creators so they can provide it to consumers for free or for a monthly subscription fee.

Popular options, so far, include online music streaming services such as Spotify and Pandora. Others point to movie and TV services such as Netflix, though some complain that content on Netflix's online streaming service is still too limited. Hundreds of thousands of people also quit Netflix last year after it started charging more to those who wanted both the streaming service and DVDs sent to them in the mail — another indication of just how much impact the public can have in these matters.

A major lawsuit now before a federal appeals court has put a spotlight on these issues.

Viacom Inc. is appealing a lower court ruling that found YouTube, Google Inc.'s popular video sharing service, is protected from copyright infringement claims. Viacom claims that YouTube is making millions when people post copyrighted videos —including some shows Viacom owns. YouTube says it forces people to remove the content when discovered, as the law allows.

During October proceedings before the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan, Judge Roger Miner asked, "How in the world can damages be computed here?"

"The number could be quite large," said Viacom attorney Paul Smith.

Miner responded: "Maybe what you're really looking for is a license agreement."

Smith said that was possible — an outcome that some would consider a win for those who want greater access to content on the Internet.

Whatever happens, college student Omar Ahmad says the entertainment industry has to realize that people his age aren't likely to change their piracy habits, even with the threat of more serious punishments that Congress is considering.

"They're going to continue doing it — that's the truth," says Ahmad, a senior at Seton Hall University who's also manager of the New Jersey school's radio station.

Karaganis at Columbia agrees that young people and the Internet community in general have proven they can influence the entertainment industry, whether it likes it or not.

"Change is inevitable," he says. "The question is how quickly will it happen — and how much of a fortress will be built around intellectual property in the meantime.

"Now, I think all bets are off."

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Martha Irvine can be reached at mirvine(at)ap.org or via http://twitter.com/irvineap

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Check out the slideshow (below) to see some of the biggest websites that blacked out to protest SOPA and PIPA.
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  • Wikipedia

    Wikipedia is planning <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/16/wikipedia-blackout-jimmy-wales-sopa_n_1208947.html" target="_hplink">a 24-hour blackout</a> beginning at midnight EST on January 18 and lasting for 24 hours.

  • reddit

    Reddit, the social sharing site that <a href="http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/stopped-they-must-be-on-this-all.html" target="_hplink">first proposed the SOPA strike</a>, will blackout for 12 hours on January 18, from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. EST. <a href="http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/stopped-they-must-be-on-this-all.html" target="_hplink">From the Reddit blog</a>: <blockquote>Instead of the normal glorious, user-curated chaos of reddit, we will be displaying a simple message about how the PIPA/SOPA legislation would shut down sites like reddit, link to resources to learn more, and suggest ways to take action.</blockquote>

  • Google

    Google announced on Wednesday that it will also protest SOPA and PIPA. <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-57360223-261/google-will-protest-sopa-using-popular-home-page/?part=rss&subj=latest-news&tag=title" target="_hplink">According to CNET</a>, Google will have a link on its US homepage showing its opposition to SOPA and PIPA.

  • twitpic

    Various news outlets report that photo sharing site twitpic will join the protest against SOPA and PIPA, but it's unclear what the site will do on January 18.

  • WordPress.org

    WordPress.org, the popular blogging platform, will go dark on Wednesday to protest SOPA and PIPA. <a href="http://wordpress.org/news/2012/01/help-stop-sopa-pipa/" target="_hplink">In a post</a> on the WordPress blog, Jane Wells, the UX lead for WordPress, wrote that "if this bill is passed it will jeopardize internet freedom and shift the power of the independent web into the hands of corporations. We must stop it."

  • Mozilla

    <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57360174-501465/wikipedia-moveon-reddit-mozilla-shuts-down-to-protest-sopa-pipa-how-to-prepare/" target="_hplink">According to CBS</a>, Mozilla will participate in the blackout on January 18. Mozilla has dedicated entire pages to both <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/sopa/" target="_hplink">SOPA</a> and <a href="https://donate.mozilla.org/page/s/commit-to-call-pipa" target="_hplink">PIPA</a>.

  • MoveOn.org

    MoveOn.org, the progressive PAC, will go dark on January 18 to protest SOPA. "Congress is playing fast and loose with Internet censorship legislation that would have people like Justin Bieber thrown in jail for uploading a video to YouTube," said Justin Ruben, the executive director of MoveOn.org, <a href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/01/more-web-sites-plan-blackouts-in-protest-against-sopa-pipa/1" target="_hplink">according to USA Today</a>.

  • Center For Democracy And Technology

    The Center for Democracy and Technology, <a href="http://www.cdt.org/about" target="_hplink">a non-profit</a> that's "working to keep the internet open," <a href="http://www.cdt.org/blogs/161open-internet-fights-back" target="_hplink">will go dark on Wednesday</a> "[i]n an effort to pressure the Senate to postpone its premature action -- and to protest the slanted process by which PIPA and SOPA have advanced through Congress."

  • imgur

    Imgur, the free image-hosting site, will blackout its galleries for 12 hours on January 18. Instead of the gallery, users will see "a message about how the PIPA/SOPA legislation threatens sites like Imgur with methods to take action," <a href="http://imgur.com/blog/2012/01/16/imgur-joins-blackout/" target="_hplink">the company said</a> on its blog. According to Imgur, users with paid accounts will not be affected.

  • Minecraft

    Minecraft.net, along with www.mojang.com and www.playcobalt.com, will "close down" on January 18, according to a post on the Mojang website. "No sane person can be for SOPA," Markus "Notch" Persson, <a href="http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/01/12/notch-no-sane-person-can-be-for-sopa/" target="_hplink">the creator of Minecraft, said on Mojang.com</a>. "I don't know if we're sane, but we are strongly, uncompromisingly against SOPA, and any similar laws. Sacrificing freedom of speech for the benefit of corporate profit is abominable and disgusting."

  • Cheezburger Network

    <a href="http://www.minyanville.com/businessmarkets/articles/sopa-protect-ip-senate-hearings-ip/1/17/2012/id/38865" target="_hplink">According to Minyanville</a>, the Cheezburger Network of sites will go dark on January 18 to protest SOPA. Cheezburger network sites include The Daily What, Fail Blog and Know Your Meme.

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09:53 AM on 02/22/2012
"You have to be paid in order to be good. You have to use the funds from your projects to fund your future creativity." really? really? wow.
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Wayne Caswell
Consumer Advocate & Founder of Modern Health Talk
09:33 AM on 02/22/2012
Pay what you think it's worth? A song is worth more if I like it and play it over and over, so I think of the old Juke Box model -- pay a quarter for each song played. If you like the song, it quickly becomes cheaper to buy it.
04:43 AM on 02/22/2012
Pirating is what you get when programs cost $60.00+ and then don't live up to their hype with no chance of a refund. IMO the software and movie companies can suck it. If on a jury I will never convict anyone of Piracy until these industries reform.
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Mike Vids
04:19 AM on 02/22/2012
Our trade deficit with China in 2010 was 250 billion dollars... in other words, if 500 million Chinese internet users illegally downloaded as little as two songs a day, we'd not only be even but they would owe us money. We cannot download tablets, flatscreens, running shoes... they can download all of our software, movies, games, tv shows...so unless we restructure our economy to manufacture our own goods again, it is to our advantage that we find a way to fairly regulate piracy. Some people have said, "but I never would have bought those items anyway"...and I agree that no one would have bought all of those items, but whether they would have bought 1%, 10% or 100%... the losses to our economy are astronomical. It's not simply about the losses to the content companies, but it is also about the enormous time sink that occupies so much time that people will be deterred from spending money elsewhere. If piracy were regulated, the economy would immediately rebound, as would crime and political unrest. But the alternative is a slow steady spiral downwards as we will continue to spend less and less money.
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GoDogGo
A fiscally realistic, socially progressive citizen
07:27 PM on 02/21/2012
If this is at all "stunning" or even "surprising" to anyone, you're clearly WAY out of touch with the cultural norms. Regrettably, even this non-twenty-something is technically a regular pirate (BBC Formula 1 content isn't available in the US, so y'know...).

What isn't widely understood or discussed is the malleable ethics of piracy -- Some kids only take albums from already successful artists (asking themselves if U2's Edge needs another Malibu mansion) or content that is unavailable altogether (ie, me taking only BBC content). There's no excuse for it, really, but I think the ethics that people apply to this and justify their bad behavior with -- mine included, honestly -- is probably the least understood yet offers the most potential as a solution.
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04:15 PM on 02/21/2012
piracy is a different type of free market, a trickle up economics. If the content is good, folks buy it , if it sucks,it's deleted or mocked. Caveat copywriter holder seems much more just then buyer beware.
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Nomadius
The least common of the senses: Common Sense.
02:35 PM on 02/21/2012
I am mostly certain that 3/4 of the "pirates" would simply not consume those products, while the companies assume (try to make us believe) that all those illegally downloaded products are all lost sales.” ...and note that I am not encouraging to use or consume products you do not pay for, but I find it important to clarify/question the claims made.
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Harold Saxon
Here come the drums.
11:34 AM on 02/21/2012
One issue is availability. Many of these "piracy" sites offer a much more extensive array of content than legitimate online stores (older books, international programming, niche music). If content providers were more focused on maintaining availability and accessability to a wide audience, fewer people would go through alternative channels to acquire it.
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GoDogGo
A fiscally realistic, socially progressive citizen
07:34 PM on 02/21/2012
Agreed. And with modern expectations of availability having been elevated (by these sites and others), it's best for copyright holders to find a way to use the demand for easy-access content to their advantage rather than fight it. All content, be it recorded, broadcast, filmed or even printed, should ideally be available in a one-stop, reasonably-priced (market-based) clearinghouse of copyright to suit the market's modern expectations of access. Like it or not, it's only then that this issue will cease to be an issue.
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psandysdad
The older you get, the more excuses you have.
08:48 AM on 02/21/2012
Is this an attempt to redefine 'copyright'? I thought it meant that I own the rights to my own intellectual property and you can't copy it for distribution and sale unless you LICENSE it.....

If enough people get an illegal download of a blockbuster movie that cost, say, $100 Mil to make, and seriously damage the profit margin of the film because they didn't need to purchase a movie house ticket.....the end result, given enough time, will be no more $100 Mil blockbusters and no more movie houses.

Anyway, consider how hyped you are NOW about a movie you illegally downloaded 8 years ago. Not so much, eh?
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Desolati0n
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08:05 AM on 02/21/2012
The point is, if an artist thinks they will be making their profit off of their record sales (in this day and age) they're doing it wrong. Artists now should be making money off of merch and doing shows and tours, not off of their music.
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09:45 AM on 02/21/2012
Well, part of the problem is that not all of the people that are involved in making music can get paid from tours.

There are studio musicians, engineers, songwriters, producers, the works.

Besides, touring can be an incredibly difficult life. Why shouldn't an artist be paid for their intellectual property?

I think this is going to be an interesting time for music. I think the quality will go WAY down, and a lot of great musicians will not bother making new music because they can't make any money from it.

And yeah, you could say that they should do it for the love, but how many of you would work for pennies for what you do? Why should someone have to do music on the side?
03:35 PM on 02/21/2012
"There are studio musicians, engineers, songwriter­s, producers, the works."

Producers and studios are 99% of the problem. They are trying to convince you the music industry is dying, it's not. The big studio industry is dying. But who really cares about them? They're superfluous and purely serve to drive up prices and thus reduce diversity of music. Once they're gone we might get more then the latest techno hip hop on the charts.
12:48 AM on 02/22/2012
CEO's of Paramount etc. get payed upwards of 50 million a year. If they really cared about the songwriters engineers etc, they would be given bonuses and what not. These companies are focused on shutting down piracy so they can rake in some more cash themselves.
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TashaDK
Liberal Techie
06:19 AM on 02/21/2012
Please, people have been copying music from purchased media and from broadcast from the moment that recordable media has existed. People started to record TV programs the moment that tech became possible for regular people to own. This is nothing new, and isn't some huge epidemic.

The media companies need to realize that they have a huge audience that wants affordable media (ie Music, Movies, etc). If the media isn't available at legit sources (ie Netflix, iTunes, Amazon etc), then people go looking to other sources to get what they want. The way economics are supposed to work is if something is overpriced then people won't buy the product. That is SUPPOSED to make the price go down, instead we have all of these media outlets overcharging for their goods. The market cannot bear the prices being charged, so people look for cheaper sources that just happen to be less legit ones.

I say lower prices and see if they can't capture more of the market. esp on VERY old back catalog items. It's pretty annoying that an album that is on the 3-5$ rack at the store costs $10bucks on iTunes or Amazon. The RIAA knows that they are overcharging, but do nothing. There is no real competition, and the companies seem to have colluded to set pricing at the online music stores.
03:57 AM on 02/21/2012
Here's a radical idea - what if we don't view shoplifters as the problem in in-store theft?

What if we don't view intoxicated motorists as the problem in drunk driving?

What if we don't view Bernie Madoff as the problem in the 2009 financial scandal?

The very premise of this article is nonsense.
12:18 PM on 02/21/2012
Incredibly faulty logic, John.
05:17 PM on 02/21/2012
Nonsense. Theft is theft. The fact that it's perpetrated online doesn't change that one bit. I'd strongly recommend that you read Jaron Lanier's excellent book "You Are Not A Gadget" for an in depth analysis of this and other ways the internet has been used to foster antisocial and destructive behavior.

http://www.jaronlanier.com/

In case you don't know Lanier, he is the father of virtual reality and one of the original architects of the web.
02:59 AM on 02/21/2012
It seems that this country is ruled by Pirates. Mortgage scams that enable banks to confiscate property= Piracy, Financial collapse, it was the Pirates on Wall Street. Corporations buying elections and politicians= Piracy, Invading a country on false pretenses in order to privatize their oil= Piracy. Makes the Somali pirates look like music and movie downloaders.
02:44 AM on 02/21/2012
The battle is really between rights owners expecting to be able to exert 100% control and end users wanting all the access and convenience technology offers. The rights holders are operating on outdated distribution models and with outdated, unreasonable expectations of control and return.

I would remind them that the customer is always right. What was established and succeeded in the 20th century doesn't fit our current world. Rights holders insistence on perpetuating what was is only delaying and harming their ability to adapt to now.
02:15 AM on 02/21/2012
I wonder if there was ever a headline in the Seventies: "Cassette Piracy: Youth Shaping Future Of Recorded TV, Movies, Music"
Music, at least - a lot of vinyl ended up on cassette.
Too bad how all those record companies went out of business as a result.

Oh. Wait a minute...
02:36 AM on 02/21/2012
Actually if you were old enough you would know that there was concern and rightfully so. However, the amount of time (back then) it would take to copy an album onto cassette limited the depth and width of damage (theft/piracy) that could be done. Today with the Internet and everything being digitized; the piracy of intellectual property around the globe is enormous and is damaging to every facet of the business of art, music, & film. This type of theft is no different than a bogus knockoff manufacturer in China or Russia selling counterfeit products of legitimate trademarked brands. Doesn't matter whether the property is analog, digital, or plastic--stealing is stealing.
03:42 PM on 02/21/2012
But that was exactly my point. There WAS concern - and yet the music industry goes on.
That wasn't meant as a defense of piracy, only to point out that Big Business is not above sounding alarms that don't pan out. Also, if the means of piracy has gotten more efficient, so has the means of distribution. Music companies now make money off of ringtones, for instance, something not even imagined decades ago.
Also, if you want to talk about piracy, look how little is left over for the artist after the average music contract. Whitney Houston's disastrous financial state when she died reminded people how little some artists end up with even as their songs continue to make others rich. If the artists want to make money, they have to go out and tour (and music companies are even trying to get a slice of that). If the people who own the contracts want to make money, they sit in their offices and wait for the royalty checks.
12:59 AM on 02/22/2012
What aspect of music, art or film does it ruin. An artist wants their music to be pirated. That means people like them. So they will get money by other means. Paramount still makes billions of dollars a year. They have never been hurt financially from piracy. Piracy is not theft just so you know. When you pirate a song. It has not disappeared from these companies. If you go into a store and steal something, someone else is left empty handed. That is theft.