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Grief Without God Is A Challenge For Atheists

Posted: 02/21/2012 10:28 am EST

By Kimberly Winston
Religion News Service

BERKELEY, Calif. (RNS) When Rebecca Hensler's infant son died in 2009, she received numerous condolences from friends, colleagues and even total strangers she met online.

She knew their intentions were good, but their words weren't always helpful. And in the rawness of her grief, Hensler found some of them downright hurtful.

Hensler is an atheist, so when people described her three-month-old son Jude as being an angel, or part of God's plan, or "in a better place" than in his mother's arms, the pain sometimes overwhelmed her.

"(Atheists) don't think we are going to get to hold our children again," Hensler told a group of about 30 members of the East Bay Atheists, a monthly gathering of nontheists, where her descriptions of people's visions of her son as an angel drew a few gasps.

"We are facing an absolute loss, so when someone projects onto that the idea that we are going to be able to hold our children again or communicate with them, it is essentially dismissing the magnitude of that loss."

As the atheist community grows and matures, one thing people are looking for is a way to process grief and sorrow without the trappings -- or support -- of religious ritual and belief.

For nonbelievers, John Lennon's famous bid to "imagine there's no heaven" isn't just a lyric; it's reality. And it's not always easy.

Last year, Hensler founded "Grief Beyond Belief," a Facebook page where unbelievers can share their grief and loss in what she describes as "a safe place" devoid of God-talk.

Within eight days, Grief Beyond Belief garnered 1,000 "likes," a number that is now approaching 3,000. Hensler estimates there are about 150 users on the site each day.

A 43-year-old school counselor, Hensler tries to post something every day -- a link, a picture, a question, a thought. Recent topics include a discussion of travel as a balm for pain, a look at how agnostics grieve, and a link to a "Bill of Rights for the Grieving." Right No. 7: "You have the right not to be grateful, reasonable, inspired or inspiring."

The idea that nonbelievers need their own places to grieve is gaining traction in the atheist arena. The book "Godless Grief" by Cathe Jones appeared in 2009; Atheist Nexus, an online community of nontheists, established a grief support group last year; and in recent months a handful of atheist bloggers have taken up the topic.

"When I became an atheist, death was one of the hardest issues I had to deal with," said Greta Christina, a prominent atheist activist who encouraged Hensler to establish Grief Beyond Belief.

"I didn't know about atheist writings or communities that could help me through it. ... I don't want anyone else to have to go through that alone."

Rabbi Peter Schweitzer, leader of New York's City Congregation for Humanistic Judaism, which has long held secular funeral services, said grief is a universal experience that requires different responses.

"Secular people feel as racked with sorrow as the next person," he said. "Christians mourn differently than Jews who mourn differently than Muslims. There ought to be space for those who don't share religious beliefs to mourn, too."

Speaking before the Berkeley group, Hensler said she became sure there was a need for a completely secular grief site when she began an online conversation with a former Christian minister who first lost his faith and then his two teenage sons.

An acquaintance told him the boys' deaths were punishment for his atheism. That drew gasps from the Berkeley group, too. Hensler said she hoped Grief Beyond Belief would become a place where isolated or new atheists, like the former pastor, could find comfort and support.

Maintaining a space for atheists requires some rules. Hensler polled its users and crafted some guidelines -- thoughts and feelings about loss are welcome; prayer and discussions of the afterlife are not. Anyone "living without religious belief" is welcome, as are those who are questioning their faith -- as long as they don't start a debate.

Hensler described the rules as "a delicate balance."

"It means accepting that I am not going to be able to make everyone happy at the same time," she said. "That is one of the things I had to let go of -- that I was going to create a website that was exactly right for everyone."

It also means her own loss remains immediate.

"I am constantly exposed to other people's grief, and that isn't always easy," she said. "There are things I post but don't read because it is too close to my own experience. I think that is why Grief Beyond Belief is eventually going to have to be a group project."

Hensler would like to see more secular, local grief support groups specifically for atheists.

"There are plenty of people who are secular counselors who could be facilitating these groups," she said after her talk. "But they don't necessarily know there is a population of people who are longing for that kind of support, free of religious content."

Meanwhile, she told the Berkeley group, she has found an online home.

"It has given some meaning for me to the death of my son," Hensler said. "I certainly don't believe there is anyone out there with a plan, or that everything happens for the best. But I do believe it is possible to create meaning from tragedy."

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12:37 PM on 04/17/2013
Very interesting article. I had never thought of this angle to grieving and how Atheists grieve, or how to condole an atheist in time of loss. I am glad I read this
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pjlowry
08:28 PM on 02/04/2013
Religions and gods were invented as answers to this natural process of life and death. A cop out for those who are too weak to handle the harsh truth of reality.

Personally I would find it a lot harder to bear if I thought there's some omnipotent being who thought it would be a good idea to kill my child, without even asking what I thought about it, and who's now getting off watching me grieve. It is one thing to get bad luck, it is quite another to know somebody did it to you on purpose.
12:40 PM on 04/17/2013
yeah. no kidding. when a life situation occurs that is taken out of the spiritual aspect of it and you discover that, if it is not a spiritual occurrence and thus must be manmade and that somebody had to create the means for it, yes, it is quite a kick in the gut at times. I say 'at times' loosely. It is Always a kick in the gut, but you learn to harden the gut and keep going
Francois G
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07:58 AM on 05/10/2012
AH !!

CHALLENGE ME !!
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VinZenTexaN
Without God, life is everything.
12:31 AM on 04/28/2012
No I don't think so !

What is it you most dislike? Stupidity, especially in its nastiest forms of racism and superstition.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Hitch-22
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Joe Padilla
Ever hear of a credit union crisis?
02:22 AM on 09/16/2012
I most dislike Atheists like Fidel Castro and Joseph Stalin and the millions of people killed by this dangerous religion. Survival of the fittest and the worship of the laws of nature is not the Dogma that humans should be following. People are a miracle, they are not to be treated like animals by Atheists.

Clearly, Atheists are living a lie.
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VinZenTexaN
Without God, life is everything.
02:40 PM on 09/16/2012
You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?
And we are living a lie . . . 
 A lie is at the heart of 'beLIEf.'
12:21 AM on 04/09/2012
It's good to be able to hear this from an atheist. Many well meaning people just don't know what to say to a person who's grieving and always go back to religion, "he's in a better place" or "you'll see her again at the end of time" or "I'll pray for you and your family". Carbon-copied words are just like Hallmark cards - without the personal touch, they are meaningless.

The focus should be on the grieving person and if he or she is an atheist, just a simple neutral "I'm so sorry for your loss" or "please call me if you need to talk" should be employed. If you're a Christian and know a grieving atheist and you don't know what to say, just be there for your friend, listen or do something nice that shows them you care. AND PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't use the difficult time as an opportunity to evangelize.
07:22 PM on 03/25/2012
This piece assumes "believers" really do in fact think there is an afterlife. I am convinced this is not the case. Religious people certainly don't act like they think what they believe is actually true. They'll invariably slip up and say things incompatible with belief in an afterlife, such as "it's too bad grandpa didn't live to see this" etc. I've seen elderly infirm religious people bargain with God for more time, or their younger relatives pray for same. This isn't behavior consistent with antipation of a blissful afterlife. Religion in my experience has more to do with denying the finality of death than with actually believing in an afterlife. Perhaps this denial makes life a tad more bearable, but if so, it isn't very evident at funerals, and most of us are so distracted with the banalities of daily life that we rarely have time to consciously worry about death.

As an atheist who has experienced the death of many relatives over the years, I can understand the desire for a grief support system for non-believers. But I don't share the hostility some have with respect to the consolations of believers. People are uncomfortable dealing with death and feel compelled to offer worn cliches such as "I'm sure they're in a better place" etc.

Perhaps non-believers take offense at being presumed to be a believer, but that seems unreasonable. They're just trying to be sympathetic, and usually don't know the person they are consoling is an atheist.
05:02 AM on 03/21/2012
Given the hypocrisy of religious organizations and many of their leaders it is no wonder many choose to not believe in He they say they represent.

Religion is a snare and a racket, and our Creator finds them loathsome.
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TheRoosterman
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05:34 AM on 03/08/2012
When my brother was killed by a drunk driver, people would say things like "god called your brother home" or "it must be god's will" or "god has a plan for your brother".

While I knew in my heart they meant well however I felt more insulted than comforted because god had nothing to do with his death. The idiot that made the choice to get behind the wheel of a car with a 2.5 alcohol level and t-bone my brother's car was what killed him.

Sure I still miss him but I don't dwell on it. I have pictures, videos a and a whole bunch of fond memories to comfort myself. He introduced me to music and taught me how to play the guitar. While we didn't exactly play the same kind of music, I honor him by learning songs I know he liked. (I like hard rock / metal, he liked blues and soul)

I found comfort in 3 things, he died instantly, he no longer has to put up with idiots in this world and the f**ker that killed him committed suicide. (I'm glad the guy committed suicide because if he hadn't, I would have murder him.)

In reality, all we have is this moment, here and now. Live it like it's your last and don't regret anything because life is truly too short.
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Vernon Gudger
05:25 PM on 03/07/2012
As an Atheist the way I deal with grief is to recognize that things happen!
09:39 AM on 03/06/2012
Atheism, simply meaning without Theism, does not mean you have to deny belief in something after death. As a Neo Humanist, I am skeptical of traditional Theism: I do not believe in the mysticism of religion. But I like to believe that my consciousness may move on as energy to another plane of existence, post material life. There are as many stories about out of body experiences as there are of folks who and interpret the see white light (of heaven) when having a near death experience. Any way you look at it, we need to be here, in the here and now, on this plane of existence, and help each other. With our limited understanding of the universe as a whole, it is plain to see that life as we know it is rare and precious and all we have is each other to make life bearable. Life and death are intermingled and inseparable. Give comfort to the grieving as if they were your own family – loss and grief are as painful to a person regardless of their belief or nonbelief in Theism.
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05:01 PM on 02/28/2012
This is how I, as an Atheist, deals with death. I find it much more beautiful than any 'heaven' could ever be. http://www.isgodasquirrel.blogspot.com/2011/10/why-i-dont-fear-death-anymore.html
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AntithiChrist
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02:04 AM on 03/10/2012
Excellent post.
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JBaker
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12:55 AM on 02/28/2012
I am GOD, and I am writing this post to tell you that I don't care whether you live or die. You will do both. I moved on a long time ago. Do what you will. I don't care. And stop praying to me with your whiny complaints. Deal with your problems, I have enough problems of my own. Goodbye.
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07:19 PM on 02/27/2012
Loss is real. Denial is phony. Take your choice.
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ThierryGhi
World citizen
04:50 PM on 02/27/2012
Agnosticism seems to be more logical to me than atheism. "Something" must have started all this, but I have no clue what it is, if it even still exists, why it did it, and so on. All I can do is try to live a peaceful and when possible a generous life. I think, and I am at peace with the thought, that after I die there will probably be ... nothing. All religions are just a human response to the urge we feel to find a reason to the question: why are we here? IF there is a reason, we are not equipped to figure it out. Therefor agnosticism.
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Cydsterie
05:01 PM on 02/27/2012
I don't follow your logic. What makes you think "something" must have started all of this? If something can come from nothing that would explain everything.
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ThierryGhi
World citizen
05:25 PM on 02/27/2012
You're right. Accepting that something started it seems right now more logical, until we can prove, if possible, that something can come out of nothing. Sadly, we'll probably never know.
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alsm9
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09:55 AM on 02/28/2012
Agnostic and Atheist are not mutually exclusive. Some people are agnostic atheists and some people are agnostic theists.

Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact. The agnostic atheist may be contrasted with the agnostic theist, who does believe that one or more deities exist but claims that the existence or nonexistence of such is unknown or cannot be known.
03:47 AM on 03/27/2012
Thank you for that. I get so tired of people misusing the term "Agnostic."