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Higgs Boson: Scientists May Be Closer To Finding Particle That Started Universe

Higgs Boson

First Posted: 02/21/2012 1:08 pm Updated: 02/21/2012 1:30 pm

2012 could be a big year for the Higgs Boson.

Last week, a researcher promised to present something "interesting" next month related to the subatomic particle said to be the building block of the Universe.

Scientists still have not proved the existence of the Higgs Boson particle, but Scientific American reports that at least one team of researchers may be getting closer to finding the elusive, so-called "God particle."

Rob Roser, whose team has been culling through information from the recently shutdown Tevatron accelerator, said he hopes the data will show that scientists have almost certainly discovered the Higgs Boson.

In fact, Scientific American reports that Roser's team hopes to identify the Higgs with “three-sigma” certainty.

From Scientific American:

This is a statistical term that indicates the finding only has a tenth of a percent chance of being due to a random statistical fluctuation. Such a result would still fall short of being considered a "discovery," however, as the field of particle physics has adopted the more stringent five-sigma standard -- a one-in-a-million chance.

The Toronto Star notes that the existence of the particle was first proposed by British physicist Peter Higgs in 1964.

Discovery's Ian O'Neil writes that 2012 is likely the year the Higgs Boson is either discovered or disproved. "But my money is on the former," O'Neil writes.

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JShankel
I want my country forward
01:13 AM on 02/25/2012
It's actually called the Zod particle.  All the other particles kneel before it.
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emeraldcite
tongue planted firmly in cheek...always
02:25 PM on 02/25/2012
Even Tebow kneels before Zod.
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02:11 PM on 02/24/2012
I'm of the opinion that if physicists were not still in denial about the vacuum catastrophe after ninety years (the infinite mass of empty space revealed by quantum physics, eliminated by "renormalization"), they wouldn't be expending so much energy looking for the Higgs boson.

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12:26 AM on 02/26/2012
What's the vacuum catastrophe? You mean that theories with point particles have logarithmic divergences?

What's that got to do with the vacuum? Nothing. The vacuum is perfectly finite. It's only the idea that particles are perfect Euclidean points that creates havoc. Which has been known since the time of Newton and has not prevented us from formulating theories that are good to twelve decimals.

:-)
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frank1946
Tell the Truth
12:36 AM on 02/24/2012
It has already been Patented by God, too late for Mortals to fight over ownership !
04:29 PM on 02/23/2012
I'm guessing their finding is that they aren't finding it.
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Fooly-Cooly
Those...eyebrows...
11:22 AM on 02/23/2012
Really?

What created the particle?

DId it just appear out of no where?

Why did it destabilize?

This whole "god particle" nonsense is just that.
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rheuer111
06:01 PM on 02/24/2012
...and your credentials are...?
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JShankel
I want my country forward
01:13 AM on 02/25/2012
Yeah, it's all a big scam.
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nanjemoy
first, check your satire-o-meter.
10:31 AM on 02/23/2012
I don't have any trouble at all accepting that physicists will find the Higgs Boson.

What I do have trouble with is articles like this.

Back in December, there was another article about how scientists "were close" to finding it, because they had already ruled our most of the likely masses for the Higgs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/13/higgs-boson-cern-god-particle_n_1145593.html

CERN's director-general, Rolf Heuer, said "the window for the Higgs mass gets smaller and smaller" as scientists learn more.

COME ON - that doesn't mean "you're closer" to finding it. You could simply be wrong. That window could close completely. If you get that window down to 0.001% of the possible mass range, that doesn't mean it exists in that range, just waiting for you.

Again, there's a good chance it exists - if it has been essential in calculations for half a century and those calculations otherwise seem to stand up. But nothing in science has proved more weird than quantum mechanics.

So it seems to me that this story might call for a little more scientific skepticism.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
07:06 AM on 02/23/2012
Once it's known to exist, of course it'll have to called the Not-God Particle.
08:38 PM on 02/22/2012
In the nanoe seconds after the big bang the aperance of the Higgs Boson hasw been therorized to have brought certain properities into the universe that assigned cretain forces to allow for proporties as weak force,strong force,and mass, fallowed by the rapped inflation. But what if the rapped inflation was the inflation of the Higgs Boson itself and we live inside it or are riding on its surface
07:22 PM on 02/22/2012
They will find it on Decamber 21 and reset the universe.
04:40 PM on 02/22/2012
Now, if these scientists could find the elusive CS (common sense) particle that many of the political wannabees on the hustings clearly lack.
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Ossit
Ossit
04:10 PM on 02/22/2012
Oh brother! Is this the catalyst for a future religious war? My God particle is better than yours let's rumble?
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
07:03 AM on 02/23/2012
The funny thing about the real world is that everyone's are the same.

Religious crackpots all over the world watch different shows on TV from their favorite hatemongers, but the TVs all work in exactly the same way.
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Ossit
Ossit
02:07 PM on 02/23/2012
Great point, ThinkCreeps.
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JShankel
I want my country forward
01:14 AM on 02/25/2012
"the god particle" is short for "the goddamned particle" because it's so difficult to find
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Corneliusjones
Libertarian>Conservative=Liberal
04:09 PM on 02/22/2012
I don't know how many times i've seen this article title...
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WaldoForever
Gentleman and Scholar. Mostly.
05:13 PM on 02/22/2012
News is fast, science is slow; reporting on science is like having breaking updates on paint drying. And then when the physicists actually get around to making up their mind about Higgs it will get the standard 24 hour hullabaloo, and then everyone except the physicists will forget about it. If science doesn't end the world, bring T-Rex back to life, or increase sexual satisfaction, the public rapidly loses interest.
03:41 PM on 02/22/2012
science goes to far on this one. lets hope theres no side effect to this exploding....
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iconoclast
03:10 PM on 02/22/2012
After finding this kernel of existence, I hope something more conclusive can start to be said about information, consciousness and their relationship to matter.
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rheuer111
06:03 PM on 02/24/2012
yes. F&F. :)
01:36 PM on 02/22/2012
Okay, so there is this "set of all things that could possibly exist" and this "set of all things that could not possibly exist". I want to know into which set this "nothing" belongs!
01:55 PM on 02/22/2012
Good point, MomentumMan. Understood in proper mathematical terminology, ZERO naturally gives rise to all things NON-zero, in quantum mechanics, anyway. Thus, zero must eventually be equal to EVERYTHING. 0--->non-zero. Thus, zero = (eventually) 2+2. Or whatever. But let's just forget the implications for arithmetic.
04:45 PM on 02/22/2012
Another good point. It can also be posed as a word problem such as: If Wanda has nothing, and gives none of it to Jill, how much does Jill have? Answer: Everything. Likewise, if nothing exist(s)(ed), and nothing got added to it, then what became of it? Answer: Everything. 0+0=(eventually)everything. Mind blowing. And don't confuse the Higgs Boson with the Higgs Boatswain. Yes, Virginia, there IS a free lunch!
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JShankel
I want my country forward
01:15 AM on 02/25/2012
there's no such thing as nothing
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Duffy Sinclair
Joe Lefty
07:55 AM on 02/25/2012
You obviously failed Existentialism 101, in school.