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Rick Santorum: Kids Get 'Weird Socialization' In Public Schools (VIDEO)

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 02/22/2012 3:18 pm Updated: 02/22/2012 3:32 pm

Comments from GOP presidential hopeful Rick Santorum during a June Meet the Press roundtable have gained new context in light of his recent appearance at an Ohio Christian Alliance event, where he said that the U.S. public school system is "stuck in the factory era."

During the roundtable, Santorum defends a quote from his best-selling book It Takes a Family, which according to The Hill, reads as follows:

“Never before and never again after their years of mass education will any person live and work in such a radically narrow, age-segregated environment,” Santorum wrote. “It’s amazing that so many kids turn out to be fairly normal, considering the weird socialization they get in public schools.”

He continues to note that home-schooling, by contrast, allows for children to interact "in a rich and complex way with adults and children of other ages ... and in general a lot better socialized than their mass-schooled peers."

"Where else in America, outside of school, do kids go to a place where they sit with people basically the same age, same socioeconomic group, and interact for, for a defined period of time?" Santorum says during the roundtable. "That's not what life is like. Life is very different than that."

During the discussion, Santorum maintains that parents should be heavily involved in their children's education.

"We need to transform public education to reflect more of what the dynamism is in the private sector, and that includes a whole way of infusing parents into the system," he said. "I would say that it's not the federal government's job to overhaul public education. What I would do is talk about how we need to make some transformation, but it should be left to the states and localities to do that."

These are sentiments Santorum continues to echo. In a campaign event in Idaho last week, the candidate once again noted his plan to home-school his children in the White House, if elected, and denounced heavy governmental evolvement in the education system. He said that for the "majority of the time in this country," parents "actually controlled the education of their children. What a great idea that is."

The New American's Michael Tennant points out, however, that Santorum's assertions may not be in line with his previous policies:

"While serving in the Senate, Santorum voted to increase federal funding for teacher testing in 2001 and to give the Education Department a $3.1 billion raise in 1996. Perhaps most egregiously, he voted for the 2001 No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB), which vastly extended federal control over the education system and now has grown so onerous that the Obama administration is handing out waivers to states that cannot meet its requirements."

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Dianne Jarreau
11:56 AM on 02/28/2012
Replaying these appearances of Sanctorum with his religious rhetoric intact, what is weird to me is how he defends home-schooling for his kids while treating the public to his Doctrinaire Roman Catholicism somewhat warped. Why hasn't this father sent his children from home to attend his local parish Roman Catholic school while he represents his political opinions garbed in his false interpretation of their position on education and political responsibility. I mean, God knows he chose to live where he does (with a particular social milieu) because a political supporter of his handed him that on a plate all expenses paid !
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stopnlisten
Hitch your wagon to a star!
01:07 PM on 02/25/2012
The whole point wasn't socialization people! It was an argument to privatize education so rich folks don't have to pay and use vouchers instead! The middle class will pay for it and their school will get less funding. Socialization is the last thing he was thinking. Tricky but GOP, it just doesn't work anymore. You and your red herrings!
11:48 AM on 02/25/2012
two words: N U T J O B !
11:58 PM on 02/24/2012
Ricky kids will be the weird ones....they've been educated not only at home but at an Opus Dei school in Maryland...
Don't forget about seeing the dead baby he & his wife brought home...
Stop believing the lie that Ricky's been promoting....his son's go to an Opus Dei school in Maryland and remember how he sued the state of PA to pay for his kids private schooling (over 30K each)...
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Dianne Jarreau
12:04 PM on 02/28/2012
Thanks for bringing that up and informing me. I live in Pennsylania where things like this are not discussed because they are not made public.
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pphhrogg
domestic clown goddess
06:44 PM on 02/24/2012
Talk about psychotic projection! R'antorum's kids are the ones who will be "weird" after being home schooled by the R'antorums!
jakielewis
Equality for all people
01:08 PM on 02/24/2012
Okay, Rick, what do you know about public schools anyway? You only brushed that when you kids were cyber schooled on PA's tab while you were living in VA. You home school, which is fine, but public school is there for everybody who can't afford private schools or prefers not to home school . Socialization is not weird in public schools. Kids are learning to live in a diverse society where not everybody looks the same or thinks the same. That is a good thing since we live in a diverse society and we don't all look the same, think the same, worship the same. I suspect that is really what bothers you about public schools.

I would think that if a person was running for President of the US that they would make education a priority for all students if you really want to keep America strong and thriving.
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ruthtruth
seeker of truth, willing to listen
11:30 AM on 02/24/2012
Has anyone seen Rick's birth certificate? Is it written on animal skin? It would seem that with this kind of thinking one would come from the 11th century. Hey Orly where are you when we could really use you?
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Dianne Jarreau
12:09 PM on 02/28/2012
Are you talking about Orly from Alberta,Canada? Please let me know.
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ruthtruth
seeker of truth, willing to listen
12:16 PM on 02/28/2012
Orly Taiz the Birther Queen is who I'm talking about.
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Dianne Jarreau
12:13 PM on 02/28/2012
Sorry, I just got it, you are referring to Orly Teitz who was bugging the Medical Records dept. at Kapriolani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii ! I had to ban another one from my page because of her childish inappropriate intrusions much like Teitz come to think of it.
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ruthtruth
seeker of truth, willing to listen
12:17 PM on 02/28/2012
That's ok. Have a nice day.
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shiny73
Peace, love, and baseball.
11:24 AM on 02/24/2012
No, mister, they get ACTUAL socialization in public schools.
10:46 AM on 02/24/2012
Santorum is a nightmare! However, if there is one little thing that I agree with it's the part that parents should be more involved in their children's education, but everything else he's talking about is bull.
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reading2009
Down the rabbit hole and through the looking glass
11:39 AM on 02/24/2012
You really can't legislate parental involvement, however.
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pphhrogg
domestic clown goddess
06:45 PM on 02/24/2012
No, but there are MANY ways that haven't been tired to get parents MORE involved voluntarily!
11:49 AM on 02/25/2012
That is true.
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CSKAP
Morlock or Eloi?
10:45 AM on 02/24/2012
You've got to be taught
To hate and fear
You've got to be taught
From year to Year
It's got to be drummed
in your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught

You've got to be taught
To be Afraid
Of people whose eyes
are oddly made
And people whose skin
Is a different shade
You've got to be carefully taught

You've got to be taught
Before it's too late
Before you are 6 or 7 or 8
To hate all the people
your relatives hate
You've got to be carefully taught
10:59 AM on 02/24/2012
You're right! Public school is just the forum in which to do that! :)
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pphhrogg
domestic clown goddess
06:47 PM on 02/24/2012
Nope. I went to both private (Catholic) and public schools during my childhood education. They were BOTH equally good places to learn about socialization PROPERLY. It's the home-schooled who don't do well in society. One of my own nephews comes to mind.
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rationalitymatters
Captain of my Soul
10:45 AM on 02/24/2012
Um, Santorum, call me ignorant but the reason why children sit in classrooms with others of their own age is because their intelligence, their social skills, their maturity, and their physical growth develops at the same level; hence, they are taught as a group. When they are at home, at church, and at social functions, they can then act (and do) with people of other ages. Sounds like common sense to me. And by the way, children and teenagers prefer to interact with their peers and that is perfectly normal.
11:07 AM on 02/24/2012
Children prefer to interact with their peers? What if their peers are a year or two older? Some of us have kids whose developmental stages don't match their ages. It's not all black and white.
12:30 PM on 02/24/2012
I love when people like rationalitymatters just repeat soundbites that have been repeated for decades. Let's be honest with ourselves. What type of education have we offered our children? We are treating them like cattle. The children that have actually dropped out of the "system" (due to poverty as in other countries, or due to resources) they tend to be more mature and ahead of themselves. I agree that children need to learn to socialize with other people in other circumstances other than, "what shoes are you wearing?" "who's going to win American Idol?" "OMG!"
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rationalitymatters
Captain of my Soul
03:41 PM on 02/24/2012
But of course, there are always exceptions. Most children, however, develop around the same time. That is why you have first grade, second grade, third grade, etc. Santorum is coming up with any poor excuse to do away with secular education. That is his real aim. He is against secularism.
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stpgirlie
Microbio is my life!
10:31 AM on 02/24/2012
See, that's funny, the homeschooled kids I know tend to be more likely to have 'weird socialization' than kids who went to an actual school (public or private). And we all know that every parent in America is well equipped to teach their children everything they'd get taught in school to the same depth as what they'd get taught in school. Not.
12:54 PM on 02/24/2012
What experience do you have? What research have you done? The home-school children that you "know", are they home-schooled because their parents are religiously conservative? If so, that influences. Did you know that when parents home-school, they are not claiming they are better trained or more educated than teachers. What parents are claiming (and if you are a parent I hope you claim it too) is that they are better qualified than anybody else to to teach and know what their own children need. If the child gets to a level where they surpass their parents knowledge or ability to better educate, there are other resources like community colleges, ROP centers, and specialized programs.
12:55 PM on 02/24/2012
However, when an adult posts a comment like this and ends it with "Not.", I can see why you wouldn't want to even attempt to educate/teacher your children.
HitnMyths
Too large a life for a micro bio
10:27 AM on 02/24/2012
It feels weird to say it but I agree (wince) with Mr Santorum that parents should be involved in their kid's education. If we had a much more equitable distribution of wealth in this country parents could afford to spend the time at the school and at home doing just that instead of breaking their backs in long hour meaningless jobs that barely afford the basics of life. Thanx for the support of redistribution, Rick!
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dil123
Read the demographics and weep
10:06 AM on 02/24/2012
Yeah right, because everyone knows that you can learn advanced math and chemistry at home.
10:23 AM on 02/24/2012
Hey, even math and chemistry-degree'd people homeschool!

Sarcasm aside, if the public school did its job, most parents can teach it. It's not rocket science. But I understand, not everyone's as smart as some of us.
01:12 PM on 02/24/2012
Crikey, is that an example of home-schooling?
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stpgirlie
Microbio is my life!
10:32 AM on 02/24/2012
I have an advanced degree in science, and I would still not feel comfortable teaching my kids about English or history. Maybe biology, but certainly not geology! That's what teachers with specialties are for!
10:37 AM on 02/24/2012
Maybe you're not comfortable with it, but I am. I have a graduated son who went to college and has a good career in a field he likes. Isn't that all we want for our children, for them to be happy productive members of society? (And who teaches geology in high school anyway?) I think people are confusing homeschooling here with 'homeschooling forever and ever.' Some of us homeschool temporarily, or only during grade school years, or because the local public school can't provide what the child needs. If a parent can't understand grade school topics enough to teach them, well....
01:04 PM on 02/25/2012
Graduate degree in History myself, but I would never feel competent to teach high school sciences or math. Maybe we could team up with some teachers competent in English, foreign language, etc. We could rent a building for space. Oh, but wait, that would be a school. Can't have that. We have to keep our children away from the "others" who might corrupt them.
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PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
Your BELIEFS do not trump my RIGHTS...
09:44 AM on 02/24/2012
Because everyone knows it is so very much better for kids to be in an enviroment where the "adults" in charge believe it is proper to bring a dead baby into a home. Pass the body around the living children to hold, make them whisper into its ear, and then sing songs to it to "bond with their sibling". And then go to sleep knowing their parents are sleeping with a dead baby.................