iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Sam Stein

Political Reporter, The Huffington Post

GET UPDATES FROM Sam:

Peter Orszag, Former Top Obama Adviser, Takes Issue With Portrayal In New Book

Posted: 02/23/12 07:43 PM ET  |  Updated: 02/24/12 09:05 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- One of President Barack Obama's former top advisers is taking issue with his portrayal in a new book exploring the economic team's internal conflicts and external fumbles in trying to engineer a recovery during the first years of the administration.

In his book, "The Escape Artists," The New Republic's Noam Scheiber depicts the former chairman of the Office of Management and Budget, Peter Orszag, as one of the chief skeptics of additional stimulus spending during the waning months of 2009. When Orszag's position ended up winning the day with the president, the outcome was "especially tragic" for the economy and the administration's political prospects, Scheiber writes.

In an interview with The Huffington Post, Orszag, who left the White House in July 2010, argued that the portrait is not complete. The book "misses an absolutely crucial distinction," he said. "I am and was in favor of 'coupled stimulus' -- that is, additional stimulus in the short run, coupled with delayed deficit reduction but that was enacted at the same time as the stimulus."

The benefits of his approach, Orszag argued, were twofold. From the standpoint of economic policy, the business community applauded the nod toward long-term deficit reduction while the upfront stimulus had tangible benefits. And politically, the package would be an easier lift if it couldn't be portrayed as just another check.

"Being for coupled stimulus doesn't mean I'm anti-stimulus, which is how the book could be and is being interpreted," Orszag said. "And that's wrong," he added. "It's not that if you could actually get $100 billon in stimulus enacted in late 2009, it would be useless. Of course it would be useful to some degree. But that was not the question."

Added Orszag: "The question was instead, Should the administration go out with a $100 billion naked stimulus proposal when the administration is still trying to sell the Recovery Act itself as being sufficient, when the administration's economic projections are still showing a V-shaped recovery, and when we're about to go into a debt limit debate -- the one people forget -- in December 2009 and January 2010?"

Among the Obama administration's original economic advisers, Orszag has a record that has been one of the most difficult to judge. While his focus on deficit reduction and spending freezes earned him some enmity among progressives, his vocal championing of health care reform and his posture as a policy wonk won him plaudits.

His cozy relationship with the press complicated matters, enhancing his image with the public but earning him distrust inside the administration. In his book, Scheiber reported that Obama's top communications hand, David Axelrod, grew convinced by the second half of 2009 that Orszag was regularly leaking material to The New York Times.

ABC News reported on Thursday that Orszag appears to have been the source for one of Scheiber's biggest revelations in the book -- that Christina Romer, the Council of Economic Advisers' chair, outlined the need for $1.8 trillion in stimulus funds in an early transition memo.

That Orszag turned out to have quibbles with the book's content indicates how complicated it's been for members of Obama's economic team to shape their legacies.

According to "The Escape Artists," Orszag's skepticism with a stimulus-heavy approach originated during the days before Obama entered the White House. During the transition, Scheiber writes, "he'd worried that the sheer size of the stimulus could undermine the confidence of businessmen and money managers, who would fear an endless expansion of government spending would delay private investments as a result."

Orszag's belief that more federal spending wasn't synonymous with effective federal spending continued past the passage of the stimulus plan. Scheiber reports that Orszag butted heads with colleagues over his advocacy for a domestic spending freeze and the creation of a deficit commission, with Larry Summers, director of the White House National Economic Council, being among those arguing that it would undermine Democratic priorities. Orszag, in turn, reportedly declined to give Axelrod cover on deficit-reduction talking points, out of concern that it wouldn't come off as credible.

Asked about the rehashing of those debates, Orszag argued that they lacked proper and important context.

"A lot of this discussion was occurring in late 2009, and, don't forget, we had a debt limit constraint coming up," he said. "There was a debt limit increase that was signed into law, if I remember, in February 2010. That was a painful negotiation even though Democrats controlled both houses because there was a group of moderate senators who were concerned about voting for a debt limit increase and we needed their votes."

"And that was one of the primary motivations behind the Bowles-Simpson commission," Orszag added. "I believe the book misses this since we had this external constraint of having to get the debt limit increased."

Scheiber and Orszag do appear to be in agreement on one point: His arguments ended up titling the approach of the administration. By the fall of 2010, the president had fully embraced the idea that his administration needed credibility on dealing with the deficit even if he pushed an economic stimulus up front. A year later, the White House changed its tune, introducing the American Jobs Act and emphasizing immediate job creation legislation over long-term deficit reduction.

Orszag acknowledged that this approach was more in lines with the "naked stimulus" plank that he fought while at the Office of Management and Budget. But, he argued, this will end up being only temporary, likely to fade away once the political climate changes.

"You now have a little bit of running room to be promoting that approach right now," he said. "But roll forward to this time next year when again you're going to have another debt limit constraint. At that point, the naked stimulus approach becomes more problematic again. And rather than flipping back and forth, the coupled stimulus approach doesn't require so many shifts in emphasis."

"So, obviously a lot depends on context and timing, and strategies that sometimes work in some settings don't work so well in others," Orszag said. "Right now there is no external constraints, from either the debt limit dynamic or the financial markets on the naked stimulus approach."

UPDATE: In an email to the Huffington Post, Scheiber pointed to two portions of the book paint a fuller portrait of the economic argument Orszag was making while OMB Director. Below is one:

Orszag wasn’t opposed to additional stimulus in principle, so long as it was paired with long-term savings. But the practical effect of his deficit preoccupation, and his success at transmitting it to the president, was to narrow the range for action. At worst, Orszag contributed to an internal stalemate that rendered the president a bystander as the economy stalled out months later.
This may be more along the lines of what Orszag would consider a fair portrayal. But Scheiber's larger point -- that Orszag's skepticism of direct stimulus had the practical effect of blocking immediate legislative action -- is still one with which he would likely quibble.
FOLLOW POLITICS
Subscribe to the HuffPost Hill newsletter!
WASHINGTON -- One of President Barack Obama's former top advisers is taking issue with his portrayal in a new book exploring the economic team's internal conflicts and external fumbles in trying to en...
WASHINGTON -- One of President Barack Obama's former top advisers is taking issue with his portrayal in a new book exploring the economic team's internal conflicts and external fumbles in trying to en...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 2,327
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Post Comment Preview Comment
To reply to a Comment: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to.
View All
Favorites
Highlights
Bloggers
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (24 total)
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
hatrickpenry
stepping on academia nuts
12:39 AM on 03/26/2012
[Suskind reveals that moment for Orszag and so many of his peers that inevitably came: reflection. What have we done? The economists were depressed, but the political advisers were unfazed; the thinking was to turn this bill’s vice into virtue. They fell back to the realization that they were destroying the existing healthcare system so as to set it up for an eventual crisis that will lead to greater reform. At the earliest this crisis will happen after Obama’s reelection so what’s not to love?]

Here's another book that's wuite interesting. "Confidence Men" - Ron Suskind

Obama's economics advisers opposed Obamacare - By PortlandAristotle

http://blog.oregonlive.com/myoregon/2012/01/obamas_economics_advisers_oppo.html
08:37 AM on 02/25/2012
I think the book is factual, hence the push back
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Jamico Bob
One can put a price on gold, friends are priceless
05:15 AM on 02/25/2012
Sounds to me that perhaps Orszag just found out that his book is not on the best selling list so of course he wants to 'pass - the - peanut' and put blame on someone else. Cry baby!
08:05 PM on 02/24/2012
Am I the only one who finds orszag cute? Not for nothing but Jewish men make the best husbands.
09:05 AM on 02/25/2012
What a complete and utter gross generalization.

I'm sure there are a few (hundred?) thousand beaten, abused and generally mistreated wives of Jewish men that would disagree with you.
06:35 PM on 02/25/2012
Oh geez. It really wasn't that serious. Lighten up. I'll relax with my Helzberg diamonds in my beautiful house in Boca :)
07:54 PM on 02/24/2012
All right all of you paid PuffHoster insulting posters who act like you are so wise and yet don't know beans about economics, your financial idiot in the white house who indirectly pays your salary is going to do the following unless we get him out of office this election: His out of control deficit spending will cause our country to default, he will drive the value of the US dollar down to pennies on the dollar, and by doing so will destroy everyone's retirements - both social security and private. Gasoline will go up to double digit prices. He will spread the . . . poverty around very nicely. Yet, those rich guys that he is really trying to get will be immune because they will have already moved a bulk of their assets out of this country or into gold, real estate, and the such. Face the truth, you are supporting a financially inept leader that needs to step down like LBJ for the good of the country. At least get an economic giant from the democratic party that might lead us out of this mess.
08:26 AM on 02/25/2012
Raising revenue to pay for spending is called balancing,the budget has mandatory spending that must be paid which you can't wait at the mail box to pay or it's called default,the federal reserve is a semi-government institution and not under executive authority,the value of the United Staes currency is determined on the open market against the value of other currencies,and sir if you increase jobs you increase rvenue,GDP,and lower expenses.Cutting spending has never produced one job and the finacial meltdown caused the rcession and job loss.
11:41 AM on 02/26/2012
Thanks for the Econ 101 review, but remember the majority of the students in that class cringe at the concept of a derivative. First of all, our national debt is what is driving down the value of the dollar, and Obama's policies are running it up at the highest rate ever. If you think otherwise, then check out the value of the Australian dollar and Chilean peso over the last few years. Look at their debts versus ours and you will understand. My business has some income from those countries and has left it over there for protection against our reckless spending (we did claim and pay the IRS). Secondly, raising revenue will help toward balancing the budget, but that needs to come from the private sector making more profit and hiring more people. The government cannot raise revenues by hiring . . . their wages exceed the taxes they pay. Lastly, cutting spending in the form of tax cuts to business produces plently of private sector jobs, the ones that actually do raise revenue. It is a very complicated equation, but we need to get it under control, and right now it is not. Just look at the failures of the bailouts . . each job created cost over $235,000. The cash for clunkers cost $24,000 each. I'm personally willing to pay more taxes . . . as soon as we get leaders to become fiscally responsible . . . and I am talking about both parties.
10:51 AM on 03/16/2012
Cutting spending will create job(s). It is just not a job decided by bureaucrats. It will be created by the people that have the money. Federal jobs do not "create" anything!
05:59 PM on 02/24/2012
The incessant Republican attempt at showing the President is not perfect by finding fault with everything that he or his administration does...

...only serves to make the President 'more perfectly' human.

Obama2012!
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
lambdin1
What's this?
06:56 PM on 02/24/2012
Yes, I agree! We should find fault with the Repulicans. But I think they are doing that for us.
08:33 PM on 02/24/2012
Republicans don't have to show fault with Obama. He's helping them every day with his own actions.
11:08 PM on 02/24/2012
Seriously, what have the Republicans done of late, except 'complain?'

You can support this lot of Republican leaders and Presidential candidates, but they need to provide 'solutions' so that their supporters can fill the blogosphere with something of substance other than diatribes, rhetoric, and ad hominem complaints.
04:54 PM on 02/24/2012
It maybe hard to see now but with his knowledge of the Great Depression Bernake may be the one figure that kept this economy from another total failure and the work of Shapiro at FDIC.We may all think that the effort to maintain asset value for the elite class was the real concern of the Central Bank but in the end it maybe that they had to protect the villians to save the innocent because of the leveraged debt system of finance some say approaches more than 5 time the total world GDP.If not for the FDIC this would have been a Great Deprecession.This will now be the new classes taught in all Economics courses and the history will be written and rewritten many times.This is just the first or second or third book with many opinions to be expressed.
04:44 PM on 02/24/2012
@Ben Hoffman is exactly right. A great deal of the stimulus was tax cuts which did little to stimulate the economy and a great deal to exacerbate the deficit. Perhaps that is why the Republicans insisted on tax cuts?

On the topic of debt and deficits in national budgets everyone just seems to accept (without facts or reasoned arguments) that all debt is bad and that the economy of a sovereign power (the one that owns the reserve currency of the world for that matter) should always have a balanced budget just like a household or a business. Unfortunately, that is sheer stupidity because there are significant differences that never get mentioned or taken into account. That is why there is microeconomics (for households and businesses) and macro-economics. This seems to escape everyone, except perhaps some economists, in the discussion. It isn't clear that debt or deficits in a national budget or economy are bad and the determination depends on what the funds are being spent on, how large they are, whether you have full employment or not and whether and how fast the economy is growing.

Food for thought: The seven times the U.S. has eliminated it's deficit and begun to pay down the national debt have been quickly followed by serious recessions or depressions. If that is so, then should we be working toward austerity and serious deficit/national debt reduction?
photo
Elrancho2
Nature boy
03:44 PM on 02/24/2012
You have to smile and shake your head at the republican tro11s on this thread. I guess, deep down even they know the game's up for their party and this little dance they're doing is a last, desperate and feeble attempt at showing faith. Faith in the lies they have swallowed and choose to cling to, as their corrupt and immoral ship sinks. They have absolutely nothing else.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
yeti7
don't need no stink'n badges
05:02 PM on 02/24/2012
says the libe tr0 11
05:27 PM on 02/24/2012
Talk about swallowing lies . . . . look back at "change we can believe in." Obama's changes to a country and a way of life that was once a place I cherished make me sick at my stomach. He stands for everything contrary to what made this country great. For sure he didn't grow up as a middle class American like I did, and he has no concept of the way life used to be here. Economically, he is in so far over his head that he doesn't even know what to do. For the good of the country, he should do like LBJ and just choose not to run. BTW, I'm a registered democrat, but the party "left" me a long time ago.
08:34 PM on 02/24/2012
God, I wish another democrat would run.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
03:38 PM on 02/24/2012
The country has been taken for a ride by the NY Smart set, whose only purpose in life is self- enrichment (individually and as a group, as history will show)
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
03:32 PM on 02/24/2012
"Among the Obama administration's original economic advisers, Orszag has a record that has been one of the most difficult to judge."
I'm sorry, he helped bailout Citigroup with taxpayer money. He knew, more than most, how corrupt and parasitic Citigroup was and he left to take a job with them. His record is easy to judge - he is an immoral piece of trash with no ethics. Anyone with his knowledge of how that company operates who chooses to work for that company should be despised by all of us. He represents everything that is wrong with our government. This man has no shame.
photo
Iamrebelriser
iamrebelriser
04:15 PM on 02/24/2012
I disagree with your statement that the bailout was done by this administration, since we keep hearing that Bush & Republicans had these bank bailouts all set up before Bush left office. I haven't heard a lot of good concerning Orszag, and I think it was a mistake too to take Summers & Geithner into this administration.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
yeti7
don't need no stink'n badges
05:04 PM on 02/24/2012
You seems to forget that both Obama and McCain (aug-08) went to DC and put their seal of approval on the tarp program so trying to say that was bushes fault is silly
05:31 PM on 02/24/2012
If you paid close attention to McCain during the last debate with Obama, he actually was trying to present a system of vouchers to the American public that were upside down on their mortgages, rather than a direct bailout to the banks. This would have done some good, but unfortunately McCain didn't get the point across to those listening. Obama is just a loose cannon with money that thinks that firing it will make the economy better.
02:05 PM on 02/24/2012
Teapublicans only have rhetoric to demean and distort and no plans to expand except to cut and if it fails so be it.This theology of free market capitalism brought about the meltdown as they preached that markets would self regulate because it was in their best interest.Without referees on the field and rules to inforce it is just a free for all.Stimulus worked but there was not enough because there was a lack of data to judge the depth of the downturn which started to come out in the rvised numbers.I have to agree though that this original team was not very good but this downturn was totally different than most others were there was a total loss of liquidity in the market.
02:08 PM on 02/24/2012
Fanned. You do know you are WAY over the heads of the Teapublicans. To reach them you need sentences like "Freedom good. Liberals bad." Anything more complicated than this is just wasting your time.
photo
Elrancho2
Nature boy
02:27 PM on 02/24/2012
Fanned for this and many of your other posts.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
tb1947
01:37 AM on 02/26/2012
You libs are so smart! Never a rational argument. Just name calling.
photo
Admiral Farragut
"Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!
02:35 PM on 02/24/2012
This original team was a bunch of LW, radical, Alynskiite miscreants following a LW, radical, Alynskiite Miscreant in Chief.
Ya'll are left holding the tattered bag while trying to spin excuses for why you've destroyed this nation in 3 tears.
I honestly don't think you realize it.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
02:44 PM on 02/24/2012
Looks like someone's sister is also his mother.
03:00 PM on 02/24/2012
What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
photo
CaliforniaCeltic
Go Independent. Make The Parties Earn Your Vote!!
01:34 PM on 02/24/2012
The whole economic team that this Administration brought in are gone except Geitner I believe....He should have gone too
01:38 PM on 02/24/2012
Geithner has been a disaster for both the American people and the President. His HAMP program was a joke. Whereas his programs to help bankers were enormously successful. Sadly, when he sees an economic problem, he sees the answer is a banker.
01:56 PM on 02/24/2012
Notice how the WH has been keeping him out of the news lately?

Have a good day,y'all.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Izzymeister
Crush & Flush the GOP 2014 !!!!
01:31 PM on 02/24/2012
Baggers, I just got your new orders.

Whine, spin, repeat has been changed to spin, whine, repeat.
photo
CaliforniaCeltic
Go Independent. Make The Parties Earn Your Vote!!
01:32 PM on 02/24/2012
Sounds the fringes of both parties, they will never be happy...
This comment has been removed due to violations of our [Guidelines]
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
01:29 PM on 02/24/2012
The entire Administration, including Obama, just plain stink to high heaven.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Izzymeister
Crush & Flush the GOP 2014 !!!!
01:35 PM on 02/24/2012
Check your diaper..........
photo
Admiral Farragut
"Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!
02:38 PM on 02/24/2012
That's what ya'll have been reduced, too, IZZY?
This comment has been removed due to violations of our [Guidelines]