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Sandra Fluke, Witness Snubbed By GOP, Speaks To Democrats About Birth Control

By JIM ABRAMS 02/23/12 01:58 PM ET AP

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Washington — Georgetown University law student Sandra Fluke was given her chance to talk to Congress Thursday, even though lawmakers were on a break and just a few Democratic allies were there to cheer her on.

But what a difference a week makes.

Last Thursday the Republican-controlled House Oversight and Government Reform Committee rejected Democrats' request that Fluke testify on the Obama administration's policy requiring that employees of religion-affiliated institutions have access to health insurance that covers birth control.

This week she received almost rock-star treatment as the lone witness at an unofficial Democratic-sponsored hearing. While the rest of the Capitol was mostly empty, Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, three other Democrats and dozens of mainly young women supporters crowded into a House office building room to applaud Fluke as she spoke of the importance of reproductive health care to women.

Prominently displayed by Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., was a photo of five religious leaders, all men and all appearing at the invitation of the Republican majority, testifying last week with Fluke visible in the background, sitting in the visitors' section.

Democrats pounced on that image of a hearing discussing contraceptive rights being dominated by men while the one person Democrats had asked to appear on the witness stand, a woman, was turned away. Pelosi, D-Calif., said they had since heard from 300,000 people urging that women's voices be heard on the issue.

"We almost ought to thank the chairman for the lack of judgment he had," in denying a seat to Fluke, Pelosi said.

Committee chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., had said at last week's hearing that the panel's focus was on whether the administration policy was a violation of religious freedom. He said at the time that Fluke, invited by Democrats in her capacity as former head of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice, was not qualified to speak on the religious rights question.

"I'm an American woman who uses contraceptives," Fluke said, when asked Thursday by Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., about her qualifications to speak on the issue.

The Health and Human Services Department ruled earlier this year that, under the new health care law, religious-affiliated institutions such as hospitals and universities must include free birth control coverage in their employee health plans.

That raised a storm of protests from Catholic leaders and other groups that disapprove of contraception on religious grounds. Two weeks ago President Barack Obama modified that policy so that insurance companies, and not the organization affiliated with a church, would pay for birth control coverage.

The religious leaders at last week's hearing said that Obama's concession was too little. Republicans in the House and Senate are pushing legislation to let insurance plans opt out of any mandate on contraception coverage if they have moral objections.

Fluke, a third-year law student, said that Georgetown Law, a Jesuit institution, does not provide contraception coverage in its student health plan and that contraception can cost a woman more than $3,000 during law school. She spoke of a friend who had an ovary removed because the insurance company wouldn't cover the prescription birth control she needed to stop the growth of cysts.

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11:48 AM on 03/08/2012
Ms.Fluke is a publicity seeker. I am surprised the networks haven't caught on
before this. Look how much attention she has gotten. Her views are self-centered
and immature, a whiner. Who does she think cares about her picayune financial
problems. My husband and I had four children. He worked three jobs at one point
in his working life and never asked anyone for financial aid. I also went to work when
we had three in college at the same time. And the last thing we woried about was
the cost of our physical relationship. WE Know what mature sex is. I.E. the physical
expression of Love. Who do you ask to pay for that? We are not rutting animals Ms.
Fluke. It has meaning and an ultimate source. Grow up!! Reply
04:33 PM on 03/07/2012
Question. Why should the government be dictating to organizations, religious or otherwise, the type of health care they provide?
01:30 PM on 03/06/2012
i am confused..the meeting was to discuss with RELIGOUS LEADERS the moral objections they may have to the policy. her credentials as a religous leader are what? so she was not "snubbed" she was not qualified to testify. even as a "woman who uses birth control" i am a man who uses birth control...ie condoms...am i qualifed to testify at a meeting of religous leaders?? not one bit. and jsut being asked to appear to testify does not mean you are "snubbed"
11:39 AM on 03/04/2012
Her argument doesn't make sense. First Ms. Fluke talks about the cost of contraception then she brings up "a friend" who needed the medication to stop the growth of cysts. One is a medical necessity, the other is not. The fact is she's just towing the party line.
CognitoErgoSum
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01:54 PM on 03/04/2012
Here is the actual testimony Ms. Fluke made that proves she did indeed reference her friend, as well as MANY other women who required hormonal contraception for a number of medical conditions:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/HealthandC&showFullAbstract=1

Your lies are exposed by the actual testimony.
04:00 PM on 03/09/2012
"Hormonal contraception for a number of medical conditions?" You don't know what your talking about. Listen, I'm a RN and you are talking about 2 different indications for the use of hormones. The use of hormones to prevent pregnancy is "hormonal contraception" or birth control. The use of hormones for a medical condition is called "hormonal therapy." I don't have any objections for taxes being used to pay for hormonal therapy because it's for a medical condition that someone can't help, whereas if she abstained sex she wouldn't need hormonal contraception. Get your terminology straight.
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06:44 PM on 03/03/2012
The context of the meeting, should religious groups have to pay or supply contraception against religious beliefs mandated by Obama's law Unless Sandra Fluke officially spoke for Jesuits I think she owes the committee an apology for speaking about her friends contraception needs.Her comments were not relevant to the meeting. RL needs to apologize to Sandra as well.
CognitoErgoSum
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01:55 PM on 03/04/2012
Why not watch the actual testimony, rather than lying about it?

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/HealthandC&showFullAbstract=1
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06:20 PM on 03/04/2012
I did and clearly not the agenda of the meeting. What religious group did she officially represent I may have missed that part and why didn't her religious group want to pay for contraception. It was already established by Obama's mandate all had to pay. Fluke should apologize to the committee for her irreverent dissertation on college social life. She is not the first generation that went to college, we know what college can be like.
03:22 PM on 03/03/2012
Why should insurance companies cover for sex, when it is being used as a recreation activity when the money should be used to cover cancer treatments and other important treatments?
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ritamary
10:37 PM on 03/03/2012
She never spoke about recreational sex and what business is it of yours why people have sex? She spoke about her friend who needed birth control pills to prevent ovarian cysts.

How about Viagra? Should insurance companies provide that? Haven't heard anyone talk about that. How about vasectomies?
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riona
12:47 AM on 03/05/2012
The insurance industry, overall, supports the Obama policy, and, in fact, the policy was designed around the opinion of the industry on this issue. It is cheaper, overall, to cover the cost of contraceptives, than to pay for the results when they are not taken.
03:34 PM on 03/02/2012
.......She spoke of a friend who had an ovary removed because the insurance company wouldn't cover the prescription birth control she needed to stop the growth of cysts..... This whole "hearing" was a set up to spark the "Rush like" comments... another article claims she was referring to a "Gay friend"..Thus expecting the comment gays don't need Birth control.... It was a set up, it worked
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alteredstory
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09:19 PM on 03/02/2012
Or it was to emphasize the degree to which the GOP deliberately tried to exclude women from an issue surrounding women's health.
08:58 AM on 03/05/2012
Yes, it’s easy to rile, and then ridicule, Rush Limbaugh-really defines the level that this discussion is at: lots of emotion, few relevant facts. For example, Georgetown U DOES cover birth control for ovarian cysts, it was the slimy insurance agent that didn’t pay for treatment, like they try to get out of many things are supposed to be covered-go after them. It's major overkill to distribute synthetic hormones to every woman on campus to avoid a few unfortunate situations. When I was in grad school, I needed knee surgery, not covered by the school's insurance-I had it anyway, then worked to pay the bills.
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Sharyn350z
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03:29 PM on 03/02/2012
I have no insurance and need b/c to prevent cysts also (because they HURT, men) so like Fluke's friend I have to pay full price. Mine's 64.00 a month, so for three years of law school (on her student plan over 3 years that doesn't include b/c my pill at 64.00 a month would cost her
$2,304.00). See? It can get expensive. If I don't take it I have tons of pain, migranes, and I get burst cysts. Without the b/c I miss work and school, suffer, need meds for pain, and ER visits for burst cysts. It's NOT always about sex. Sorry guys, but that's for real.
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09:08 PM on 03/02/2012
i'm so sorry about your condition but THANK you for saying something. so many people don't even bother reading fluke's testimony in which she tells the story of her friend in your scenario--except she lost an ovary and can't have babies now.

it's SUCH a shame that people jump to conclusions and sad lonely men jump to the "slut" comments.
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10:28 AM on 03/03/2012
FYI----you can still have babies with only one ovary...with one ovary you have a period every other month.
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11:42 PM on 03/01/2012
what on earth is she using that it's cost her $3000??? I get my birth control in 3-month installments that cost me $7- that's $28/year, even before yaz had a generic and the name brand wasn't covered by my insurance, I was paying $20/packet, that's $240/year, and over the course of 4 years, that's still less than $1000
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Sharyn350z
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03:30 PM on 03/02/2012
My pill over 3 years with no insurance would cost me $2,304.00 over three years. Just sayin'. I take it for cramps, migranes, and cysts, NOT sex.
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04:58 PM on 03/03/2012
You did not answer the question. How can yours be so much more expensive than hers?
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09:21 PM on 03/02/2012
I had a girlfriend who had negative side effects from the pill, and allergic reactions to the patch, so she had to go with a ring, which worked for a bit, then a different pill, and then finally got an IUD.

The moral of the story is that some birth control methods ARE cheaper, but not everybody is as lucky as you were to find an affordable method that didn't make you sick.
08:52 PM on 03/01/2012
What does Fluke have to do with the current argument about religious exemptions? As a student, rather than an employee, she and her fellow students wouldn’t currently be covered under the mandate required by the Affordable Care Act anyway, with or without the religious exemption (Washington Post). So, why was she testifying? Complaining about the cost and about the student being "embarrassed" didn't help her cause. Still, she's no "slut": many men expect sex from women as a "normal" part of a relationship, even a casual one.
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09:23 PM on 03/02/2012
Because the "religious exemption" argument is being used to avoid talking about women's health, which is the real issue.

Many states that these Republicans are from have HARSHER rules (from the point of view of religious institutions), and the GOP has NEVER CARED ABOUT IT BEFORE.

And now they put forward an amendment that would allow ANY procedure or service to be excluded from coverage because the employer doesn't like it.

Hell, if religious exemptions worked THAT way, I wouldn't have to pay taxes to support the military because I'm morally opposed to the institution.
11:43 AM on 03/03/2012
Speaking of exemptions, many far-reaching legal exemptions regarding hormonal contraceptives have been made already:

1. Unlike other drugs, Planned Parenthood and docs who prescribe hormones for birth control are exempt from legal damages if their patient suffers major problems, even death.
2. Unlike other drugs, female hormones can legally be prescribed to minors, without parental knowledge.
3. This is also unlike male hormones, in which possession by minors is a federal offense.
4. In the US, unlike in Europe, high-risk hormones such as Yaz have no special warning in their list of precautions.

The result has been a drug provider’s dream-ready access to a huge market, with no liability-amazing what you can do with enough lobbyists and campaign contributions, hey?

So this issue is such a big deal? The Catholic Church’s religious objection to birth control is long-standing and well-known, hardly something they just don’t “like”, and will only help women’s health by decreasing Pill use.
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04:59 PM on 03/03/2012
Since when do men's 'expectations' define whether or not she is a 'slut'?
01:52 PM on 03/01/2012
So, why don't she and her friends just go to Planned Parenthood?
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dragonlady620
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07:51 AM on 03/02/2012
Congress wants to defund Planned Parenthood. That is what Fluke was there for-to defend its funding. That detail seems to have gotten lost in the firestorm.
10:03 AM on 03/02/2012
That seemed to be part of what she was there for, but all of the examples she cited were people who could have used PP, since it's obviously still up and running. And, even if it's defunded, I think there will still be safe, legal, options for women who can't afford birth control, just like there were when I was in college many years ago. I'm sure many generous people like yourself will be more than happy to fund those entities.
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02:02 PM on 03/04/2012
Because Planned Parenthood charges on a sliding scale based on income. Planned Parenthood has to operate in the same triage/means testing fiscal reality as any other non-profit providing medical services. They aren't like some mytical Santa Claus for sexually active/uninsured women.
01:49 PM on 03/01/2012
The cost of law school at Georgetown is over $50,000 per year, not to mention the exorbitant living expenses one must occur to study in the D.C. area. Books alone are over $3,000 per year, and this young lady is expecting us to believe the hardships are so great that the rest of us with healthcare plans must suffer increases in our costs to subsidize her birth control?!?!

If this young lady is so financially stricken, she should have found a cheaper law school or not attend at all if she couldn't afford it!
02:05 PM on 03/01/2012
You have heard of scholarships, correct?

In your world, rich students should attend top-notch schools, while poor students should attend less prestigious schools?

Rich people should have access to birth control and poor people should have babies?
04:00 PM on 03/01/2012
How do you get that from what he wrote? You can get a prescription filled for birth control pills for as little as $9/month without health insurance. Not that THAT is even required. She doesn't need to be having sex. If she wants to then she can have the male buy some, find a place to get free condoms if she doesn't want to pay 20 cents for one, or pay $9/month to have birth control pills. Why does she need to get other people to pay so she can have sex?
03:13 PM on 03/02/2012
If this woman would spend a little less time on her back, I'm sure she can find affordable Birth Control, that costs a lot less than what she is saying. I would venture to say that she can probably swing it for about the monthly cost of two beverages at a local Georgetown Bar. You have to be living in another world to think that affordable birth control is a rich/poor issue. The fact is this woman who can afford a very expensive Georgetown Law Education; others should not be required to pay for her birth control. Lastly, Georgetown is a Jesuit School, they don't offer this coverage, because that is there belief and choice. If she has a problem with that there were plenty of other law school options.

THE TRUTH IS SIMPLE. THIS WOMAN IS A FRAUD! She has no such problems, and is trying to get her 15 minutes of fame. Any American to buy into this is frankly a sheep. Or as the Communists once chided a "useful idiot".
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alteredstory
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09:25 PM on 03/02/2012
And birth control is ANOTHER $3000 a year. How the hell do YOU know her financial situation. Maybe she saved, worked hard for scholarships, and budgeted to be able to afford school there.

Maybe not.

Are you saying poor people shouldn't get to go to good schools?
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ritamary
10:57 PM on 03/03/2012
That apparently is part of the new Republicon mantra. Only the rich should go to college per Rick Santorum. If you think others should go, you are a snob.

Amazing how the young woman's life is being picked apart because she had the nerve to testify at an informal congressional hearing.
12:56 PM on 03/01/2012
Global whining to the n'th degree...$3,000 for birth control??????? And everyone should buy it for future LAWYERS?????? She is a liar at the very least.
02:20 PM on 03/01/2012
Okay, law school (regular full-time) is three years.
Generally birth control pills run $50 - $100 per month. = $1,800 - $3,600.

And the problem is...??
02:53 PM on 03/01/2012
online....average cost of "the pill" is "$15 to $25 a month."
04:01 PM on 03/01/2012
You can get it for as little as $9/month without health insurance. Buy generic.
02:57 PM on 03/01/2012
I also found out that Fluke went to a Catholic university to be an activist on this issue.....sounds like a piece of the regime's machinery....Ms. Fluke is a political operative, plain 'n simple comrads.
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kitkat7
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06:37 PM on 03/01/2012
Oh really? Let's see some proof of that, please.
12:20 PM on 03/01/2012
Hey you all, she just wants to make sure she can shack up whenever she wants, and
have someone else pay for her sex practices. Sounds like something all good down to
earth law students should be able to do.
Hope she is making her parents proud. She will make a good Democratic politician as
she learns first hand the way to get hand outs and demanding that they are her right to
have someone else pay for her sex protection.
For real medical issue's Doctor's should be able to prescribe the necessary help for
them, but these people are really stretching this issue.
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thestarfish6393
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09:16 PM on 03/02/2012
hey...guess what? READ THE TESTIMONY. SHE WASN'T USING IT FOR PREMARITAL SEX BUT TO TREAT THE MEDICAL CONDITION THAT COST THE POOR GIRL AN OVARY.
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ritamary
11:00 PM on 03/03/2012
They don't know how to read or even listen. Their far right ideology warps their thinking on every subject.
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LaFemmeSASE
10:19 AM on 03/01/2012
I use birthcontrol. That being said, if people want to use it, they should pay for it themselves. The only time it should be added as a benefit is in the case of women who need it for medical reasons such as PCOS.

Another thing, Republicans really like to shoot themselves in the foot. They should have allowed the young lady to speak, silencing the other side, does not make you right, it makes you stupid. Now, what was a simple argument on who should pay for their birth control has spiralled into denying women their rights. Use it, I dont care, but if it is not for treatment of a particular ovarian or vaginal issue, then pay for it yourself.
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10:11 PM on 03/01/2012
And if you a sky diving accident and need extensive medical care, I should not only pay for my own birth control pills (since I already have 4 children, my husband and I prefer not to have any more) but for the medical bills you incurred by behaving foolishly?
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LaFemmeSASE
08:46 AM on 03/02/2012
They include sky diving and other dangerous activities when conducting risk assessments for health insurance. Those persons pay higher premiums (at least thats what is supposed to happen, but we all know how people skirt the system). I say you pay for your own birth control pills and they pay the higher premiums for their activities. I believe in a fair system, I dont think anyone should have to pay for someone who was thrillseeking.
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thestarfish6393
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09:01 PM on 03/02/2012
i agree with you. key thing is that fluke's friend was SPECIFICALLY using it for ovarian cysts, so going along with what you are saying--she shouldn't have to pay hundreds of dollars a month for it.

EXACTLY