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First Posted: 02/23/2012 9:15 am Updated: 02/23/2012 1:05 pm

British pilots warned members of Parliament Tuesday that if proposals to increase pilot flying time are approved, it will be a danger to public safety, report our colleagues at HuffPost UK.

The European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) wants to standardize pilot workloads across its 27 member states.

The EU proposals would increase pilot work time from 16 hours 15 minutes a day to 20 hours, according to The Telegraph. When transportation time is factored in, that could result in a 22-hour work day. When we last addressed this story, the EU was debating only increasing pilot duty to 13 hours.

At that time, the British Airline Pilots’ Association (Balpa) claimed this would result in fatigue that's equatable to being four times over the legal alcohol limit -- an assertion it is still making. Dr Rob Hunter, Balpa’s head of safety, told MPs that "its own poll showed 43 percent of pilots had fallen asleep on the flight deck – but said this was ‘probably an underestimation,'" reports the Daily Mail.

"We need an appropriate reporting procedure," he told the BBC. "People fear that if they report fatigue they will be subject to a disciplinary process. Their concern is that they will be effectively writing the evidence for their own prosecution..."

These proposals would allow pilots to fly further, even as far as California, with no back-up crew. Pilots would also be allowed to do seven early starts in a row.

A Unite union leader told the Daily Mail that the proposals could result in a 17 percent increase in pilots’ workloads. And, "there is a five-and-a-half times higher chance of an accident when duty periods exceed 13 hours," another expert told the paper.

On the other hand, proponents like Transport Minister Theresa Villiers believe overall safety will improve with the changes, as "moving to a Europe-wide system of safety regulation 'would undoubtedly bring up the standards to a broadly equivalent level to that in the UK,'" she told the BBC.

Do sleepy pilots threaten air safety? The question is not a new one. But, after the 2009 crash of a Colgan Air plane near Buffalo, N.Y., it was considered enough for the FAA to propose a rule change allowing pilots more sleep. The new pilot work rules, which limit the maximum time a pilot can be scheduled to be on duty to between nine and 14 hours, were adopted in late 2011.

In 2010, a sleeping pilot was blamed for an Air India crash that killed 158. The next year, a Scandinavian Airlines pilot fell into a sleep so deep his co-pilot could barely wake him. And, according to news.com.au, half of all Norwegian airline pilots admitted to falling asleep in the cockpit.

Even Captain Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger, famous for landing his U.S. Airways plane safely in the Hudson River, admitted to ABC that he probably could not have made the miraculous landing had he not had slept enough.

"Had we been tired, had we not gotten sufficient rest the night before," Sullenberger told ABC, "we could not have performed at the same level."


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ugly american
Just say "No!" But to What?
02:04 PM on 02/25/2012
Oh yes, I want a pilot who hasn't had the chance to sleep in days. Are they a pack of nutters?
"Once the policy is in place and working and kills a few hundred people, then we'll send it up for review straight away!"
People working professionally in transportation should not be overworked or humans are going to die from it other than the workers. This is a stupid idea who's time has come and hopefully will go soon.
06:05 PM on 02/24/2012
Why don't readers understand this problem in a broader context. It permeates our society and our international community. It is all about the concept of a corporation and the insulating nature of being a corporate bureaucrat - and feeding off the corporate trough. Public safety is meaningless to these types - unless they, in their individual capacity are sued by those who have been harmed by their actions. Leave it to the "Corporate Business" types to never listen. All they think is more profits, more executive bonuses, more disingenuous lying to keep a dying enterprise alive at the expense of all the rest of us. Privatizing profits, socializing risks. How about dragging them from their high rise offices, taring and feathering them, and putting them in stocks in Central Park or London. These creatures need to be identified, branded, their assets confiscated, and jailed.
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
01:29 AM on 02/24/2012
I REALLY don't want a pilot that's been up and working for 22 hours
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01:02 AM on 02/24/2012
One pilot sleeping in the cockpit used to be routine on long flights. There is another competent pilot managing things, you are holding the same course at the same altitude for hours on end, in instrument conditions or at night you can't see anything out the windows, the autopilot is managing the details. So what is the problem?

I'd much rather have a well rested pilot handle the approach and landing at the destination than someone so fatigued that they have the blind staggers.
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Barry Clarke
Retired Air Traffic Control Aviation Meteorologist
12:20 AM on 02/24/2012
Sorry, but I feel this is new sensationalizing at its poorest. As an air traffic controller, I have been on over 100 jump seat flights with major air carriers where as I flew in the front with the crew. Never, did I see what is reported. All crews were very professional and at times, yes, I could see that they would be tired after a eight or ten hour trip, but “NEVER†did I see anyone ever sleep in the cockpit………….
12:21 PM on 02/24/2012
You’re sounding very republican conservative to me. Just because you sat in a jump seat doesn’t mean you had a front row seat to these pilots’ lives. I don’t know either but the FAA is well aware of the problem of pilot fatigue, unfortunately they answer to the airlines company’s rather than public safety (someone in the FAA is getting a nice paycheck). It they were concerned with public safety they would not have FIXED the problem nearly three years after 50 people died in an airplane crash in Buffalo, New York, rather than simply say pilots must report themselves unfit for duty to the airlines if they're too exhausted. They did not even address the issue of so-called "commuting" pilots, who fly long distances to get to work before they even enter the cockpit.
What do you suppose happens when a commuting pilot declares herself unfit to fly? How many pilots would do this? How well do you sleep in an airport and should this count as sleep?
Sensationalizing? No, demanding respect for themselves as people and the job they do? Yes. Personally I want my pilot to be rested.
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Barry Clarke
Retired Air Traffic Control Aviation Meteorologist
12:59 PM on 02/24/2012
First, I am an Independent voter and not a Republican. So, you can cut the attacks and you might gain a fan or two. Yes, I have had a front row set to pilot lives as I have been a pilot for over 45 years. And, yes, there have been problems in the lives of pilots especially in commuting and being tired that the FAA has addressed. But, your post indicates that you are not involved with this industry and have little or no experience to draw from by what you say. It’s only what you think is true. I sense the only thing you know about the subject is from what you have read which is not always correct because a lot of it news sensationalizing. Thus, I have 45 years of experience to draw from with front row seats not only from the jump seat but as pilot in command. Does the help answer your comments?……….
12:16 AM on 02/24/2012
a 20 to 22hr on duty period? are they freaking insane?
Hell, truck drivers are limited to no more than 11 driving hrs within a 14hr period and if a truck crashes it can be very ugly but not nearly as ugly as a widebody plane full of people crashing.
and flying a passenger jet has got to be one of the most boring things out there, program your course, altitude and speed and just sit back watching screens and monitoring systems, yawwwnn! I'll take flying cargo on feeder routes any day or even crop dusting would be a whole lot more fun than flying an "Airbus" don't pay as much but I'd rather enjoy my job than make a ton of money and be bored stupid.
12:14 AM on 02/24/2012
As a retired USAF Command Pilot flying C-130's, I can testify that fatigue is a critical issue. I have fallen asleep at least twice while in the seat. Once I literally fell asleep in mid sentence talking to the co-pilot. On another flight, I seriously considered terminating a mission because both the instructor pilot an I were so tired that we could barely function. Had I been in command on that flight, I believe I would have. And it is not just the length of a single day that concerns flight crews. A series of days where the flight departure times slip by four to six hours is tough because you can't adjust your body to a rhythm. Flying a large number of hours month after month wears on your body too. During the year I was in South East Asia, I frequently flew over 100 hours per month. After a while you are just fatigued and need to take a four to six days off to recover some. I hope they are careful to consider the real world facts of crew days as they make the decision about making changes.
11:00 PM on 02/23/2012
Human Beings stop performing well at about 8 hours of work-shift activity. One time on a USAir flight from Harrisburg, PA to Pittsburg to San Antonio, the Captain said on the cabin PA, at SA, 'Thanks for flying USAir. At this time we are going to have a crew change. Give us 20 minutes and we will continue the flight to Phoenix and LA. Why work somebody to death. There are auto pilots and Uav are here too. Why place a pilot or crew on a flight that is 3000 miles away from there home base? Fix a nap bed in the crew cabin somewhere. Place crew quarters at airports, where personnel can get quiet rest in inexpensive rooms. Get real. Go 'BID' exhaustion and overwork someplace else. And not a hospital. My Dad was a physician and he did work himself to death.
10:39 PM on 02/23/2012
True story: Pilot lives one hour from Dallas but flys out of New York to work on th 9 PM to UK. So he gets up about 0900 drives to DFW, flys to New York (free) gets to NY about1600 hours Gets a snack and a one hour nap. Reports for duty at 2000 Hours. for a 6 hour flight to UK. How long Before he falls asleep? About three hours into the flight he is worthless, he must sleep. So the other pilot lets him. been there done that.
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hccharles3
10:38 PM on 02/23/2012
Good evenin mates, we ah (yawn) floyin ova the stahs and well be cruisin at slaepy spaed, And now as the floyt help will tuck us in an dim the lights, let us all relax an have a (yawn) pleasant dream,Oy mean floyt. Goodnoyt!
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sassycats61
Sweet & Sassy!
10:32 PM on 02/23/2012
More of a comfort to know that pilot of airlines you choose to fly on has had enough sleep before work.
08:59 PM on 02/23/2012
Hours of Boredom interrupted by moments of terror, if you have never flown an airplane, your comments should reflect this.
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Major Nikon
Slow thinkers keep right
09:24 PM on 02/23/2012
I've always believed that autopilots should include an alarm clock.
11:42 AM on 02/24/2012
You also have earned yourself a fan
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MyNinja
N.W.A. Ninjas With Aptitude
06:00 PM on 02/23/2012
Profits over peoples lives. Say hello to the new world we live in.
11:46 PM on 02/23/2012
I don't think that "profits over people" is anything new. I think it's been increasing for decades.
05:50 PM on 02/23/2012
Hasn't this always happened? Thank goodness for automatic pilot....LOL, always reminds me of the movie Airplane.
05:05 PM on 02/23/2012
You are not hearing the real story - as usually. Until I find the current FAA Part 121 flight hour guidelines, can someone tell us the real truth about the pilots and the flight times. Not the rest time or the on duty time - but how many hours can a pilot actually fly a plane before he has to stop flying. The unions have really pulled a good one hear. How can us dumb passengers even question the pilot fitigue issue. You will a stunned as to how many actual flight hours a pilot really flies in a day. And that becomes less by the week, and by the month. When I find the FAA part 121 I'll give you the truth.
07:34 PM on 02/23/2012
It's not necessarily the flight time that is fatiguing. It's the very long days through multiple times zones on the back side of the clock.

BTW.....the only time pilots get paid for are when the brakes are released at pushback until set at parking. All the preflight prep....nada. Saying goodbye...nada. 30 hour layovers in podunkville...nada.
08:17 PM on 02/23/2012
My understanding is that pilots are on salary, not paid by the hour. At least that's the way it was for my two cousins who were Delta Senior Captains.