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Police Spying Leaves New York Muslim Students 'Violated'

Posted: 02/24/12 10:02 PM ET  |  Updated: 02/24/12 11:39 PM ET

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Muslims pray before a community dinner at the Islamic Center at New York University March 10, 2011 in New York City.

NEW YORK -- In his three years studying computer science at New York University, Ali Shah has come to call the campus Islamic center a second home. It's here, on the fourth floor of a modern building that overlooks Greenwich Village, where Shah said he has grown in his faith as a Muslim, formed close friendships and come to feel comfortable in a large university and city where it's easy to be anonymous.

But on Friday, Shah seemed distraught. He was confused. And hurt.

He came to the Islamic center with a few dozen Muslims, some of the hundreds at the university who learned that New York police had been monitoring the center's website for signs of terrorist activity.

"It violated my idea of this as a safe space," said Shah, who is from North Brunswick, N.J.

A series of Associated Press articles has rocked the city's Muslim population by revealing that police planted informants in mosques, Muslim neighborhoods and Islamic university clubs in New York and its suburbs. Police spied on prayer times, sermon topics, food sold at restaurants and discussions on politics and world events. One report showed that an undercover officer went on a Islamic university group's whitewater rafting trip, while another compiled weekly reports of Muslim student club websites.

The Muslims at NYU have unproven suspicions that the police had an informant in their group, where the website calendar lists prayer times, a Quranic interpretation class and a screening of a documentary about urban violence. The AP reports say police monitored Islamic student groups affiliated with at least 16 colleges in New York City and the Northeast, including Yale, the University of Pennsylvania and Rutgers, and looked at the website of NYU's Islamic center.

The NYU Muslim population rivals that of the other universities, and its Islamic center, which sponsors a Muslim Students Association and Muslim Law Students Association, is popular with young Muslims throughout the city.

"Nobody argues against keeping the country safe ... but you can't use Islam to monitor people blanketly," said Ahmad Raza, an economics student, as he sat in a circle with students in a space usually reserved for prayers. "If I had a minute with Mayor Bloomberg, I would say, 'How would you feel if you sent your daughter to a university and she was being spied on?'"

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the police department, saying its actions are within the law and appropriate in a post-9/11 world. Of monitoring student websites, he said at a press conference this week that "we’re going to look at anything that’s publicly available." A police department spokesman said a dozen people arrested in the U.S. and abroad on terrorism charges had once been members of Muslim student groups.

Many NYU students said Friday they felt the news had affected their studies. A student taking an Arabic class said she now second-guesses online research she does on the language. A talkative law student who wears a head covering said she has become quieter in class discussions. One student said he was afraid fewer people would come to the Islamic center out of fear of being monitored.

NYU President John Sexton echoed those concerns in a letter to NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly this week, saying it was "troubling" that the department may be monitoring the Islamic center and that "parents and students now wonder if continued participation in the university's Islamic community of worship is a risk." Yale President Richard Levin and groups from other universities that were monitored have also condemned the police department.

Khalid Latif, NYU's Muslim chaplain, led Friday's discussion after seeing his office flooded with concerns from students. Latif, also the Muslim chaplain at NYPD, declined to answer questions about his other employer's actions, but said he was concerned for students' well-being.

"This is a place of dialogue," Latif said, referring to the university and the Islamic center. "What students feel has been stunted is the ability to share ideas."

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NEW YORK -- In his three years studying computer science at New York University, Ali Shah has come to call the campus Islamic center a second home. It's here, on the fourth floor of a modern building ...
NEW YORK -- In his three years studying computer science at New York University, Ali Shah has come to call the campus Islamic center a second home. It's here, on the fourth floor of a modern building ...
 
 
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10:32 PM on 10/02/2012
These Muslim students should come back to Muslim countries, cooperate in Jihad build up, and blow the Kuffr off the planet.
12:02 AM on 03/04/2012
When muslims stop plotting to kill us well stop spying on their places of worship to stop their plots. Simple.
01:05 PM on 02/29/2012
The media is also responsible for ignorance of other cultures in America.
Ignorance makes us more vulnerable. See this:
http://tinyurl.com/7h33dtq
When is the news media going to learn not to misrepresent the Sikhs?
10:58 AM on 03/03/2012
Sorry.....that web page was moved. Here is a new link:
http://tinyurl.com/7efctvm
09:22 PM on 02/27/2012
student's well-being .. cry me a river !! what helps their cause is constant victimization...

these MSA leaders do not denounce doctrine of jihad and expect NYPD to NOT keep an eye on them!! pls !!
07:57 PM on 02/27/2012
I'm 100% with Bloomberg here. Muslim fundamentalists actively recruit Muslim college students. If we can prevent catastrophes from happening and protect the security of this country through student surveillance, then by all means we should and need to be doing so. It's unfortunate in this case that it has to be Muslims, but they are the ones being sought out by extremist groups. Orthodox Jews, Hindus, Christians and Buddhists are not being enlisted to bomb their underpants. It is only Muslims. It is better to be safe than to be very sorry.
02:47 PM on 02/27/2012
The NYU Islamic Center is run by the NYPD's own chaplain. The fact that they have to spy on one of their own just highlights how incredible this exercise is. If there was even the slightest bit of legit suspicion of Latif or the NYU IC, you can bet he wouldn't be carrying the badge.
02:11 PM on 02/27/2012
And I feel violated by the students' constant terror plots.
12:56 PM on 02/27/2012
Especially when you have islamic groups in NY and America that spew hate speech all over, burn flags in front of ground zero and chant death to the US. They are the snake in the grass. They have infiltrated and are just waiting for the opportun moment to strike on the "infidel". I don't trust any of them!
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Helen Greenfeld
"There is Nothing New Under the Sun"
11:50 AM on 02/27/2012
OY I'm really crying for these students who are being spied on. Let them just be happy they are able to live here in peace. If these students have nothing to hide and are true Americans they should not be upset. Just take it and when the world is rid of terrorism there won't be a need for this.
02:36 PM on 02/27/2012
Easy for you to say. How would you feel if your words and actions were being spied on and recorded by an incompetent authority? These students have done nothing wrong. Why should they be made to feel violated?
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Helen Greenfeld
"There is Nothing New Under the Sun"
08:33 PM on 02/27/2012
You may be hurt and offended by my words and sentiments of myself and others. If you are a solid citizen you should understand and let it go. Your hurt feelings are just hurt feelings. You will hopefully live a long, fruitful good life reaching old age in good health, prosperity and be surrounded by loved ones a few generations into the future. That is my blessing to you.

My question is what about the 3,000 poor souls whose lives were lost? They will never
have that luxury. I believe that being spied on in the name of national security is a small price to pay to keep people safe from terrorism.
09:54 PM on 02/27/2012
Why, then he'd be screeching about the right to arm a militia.
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mensakid
All of my assets are a gift from GOD!
08:31 AM on 02/27/2012
In my personal experiences, the only people who object to being "observed" are the ones who have something to hide.....and when you have a large group of people - who are "bonded" together by whatever factor (religion, too) - introduce an anger provoking stimulus and you get a lot of "sleeper-cell" activity; and , if those who are objecting to being monitored were honestly striving to become American citizens, what are they really objecting to ?
banderson2
82nd ABN Div Paratrooper Ret
08:51 AM on 02/27/2012
Please! You are one of those people who will be crying for the ACLU in about twenty years when the U.S. really becomes a police state.
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mensakid
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09:40 AM on 02/27/2012
Is that your infallible prediction for what the future holds ?
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mensakid
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10:45 AM on 02/27/2012
Not likely : ACLU , by appearances, is not trying to defend lberties nor constitutional rights........it seems to have become another vehicle of moral terpitude.
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freedom1947
San Juan River Fishin'
10:38 AM on 02/27/2012
Not being allowed the same rights as you? Didn't Jesus say to give up all your worldly posessions to follow him? Or thats just refering to everyone else?
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mensakid
All of my assets are a gift from GOD!
02:46 PM on 02/27/2012
IF I, or any other U.S. citizen were to engage in criminal &/or treasonous/terrorist activities, we FORFEIT all rights to "privacy"; and belonging to to a segment of any society which has a predilection for known "behaviors" necessarily makes us "persons of interest". Christ was addressing his Apostles (first Pope & priests of the Catholic Church) and everyone who would follow them in their roles as the clergy of The Church......I'm not a clergy......
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mensakid
All of my assets are a gift from GOD!
06:04 PM on 02/27/2012
Anyone (self included) who confects, conspires &/or engineers a crime, or an act of treason or an act of terrorism FORFEITS his/her right to privacy, and we need toiscover that/those person(s) and the event machination. JESUS CHRIST'S directives were given to all who would follow HIM in a religious life (clergy).
10:30 PM on 02/26/2012
wow - a lot of unrecognized white (and Christian) privilege showing through in the comments here. Shameful practice; shameful comments by and large. We can do better folks.
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loutrerouge
Defending reason, secularism and equality against
01:08 AM on 02/27/2012
Interesting you speak of 'privilege' when so much of this issue revolves around the massive privilege and deference to which religious people feel entitled and have long (and erroneously) been accorded.

And your openly racist assumption that critics of Islam are "white" is noted.
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
11:45 AM on 02/27/2012
Do you want to spy on all religious people and all people of any race?

Do you want to be excluded yourself?
10:54 PM on 02/27/2012
always a good strategy to accuse the people pointing out intolerance of intolerance themselves - did Rush teach you that one? as for your first paragraph, it sounds like you're agreeing w/ me that part of the problem here is the sense of entitlement the Christian majority in this country uses to marginalize other groups
07:29 AM on 02/27/2012
It is no shame to constructively criticize.

Islam, like Christianity or any other religion, needs to challenged, but mocking or in/sult/ing another's beliefs is counterproductive.
10:56 PM on 02/27/2012
this has to do w/ treating people differently on the basis of race and religion - I thought I was constructively criticizing the policy that led to this practice.
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Matt Juba
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08:03 PM on 02/26/2012
The NYPD lives a life of insecurity and fear of Muslims. Remember when American Japanese were put into internment camps for doing nothing but being Americans. NYPD is a disgrace.
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loutrerouge
Defending reason, secularism and equality against
01:04 AM on 02/27/2012
For such a "freethinker" why can you not see the obvious logical fallacy of comparing ethnicity (in born biological variation) to religion (an human-constructed ideology)? Islam is a belief system and beliefs motivate our actions, however much slippery religious apologists try to pretend otherwise when discussing violence.
04:05 PM on 02/26/2012
I am only going to vote for a politition that does not lie!
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Stokes
09:05 AM on 02/27/2012
Good luck, if you can find one.
11:30 AM on 02/28/2012
How about voting for a "politition" who can spell?
03:03 PM on 02/28/2012
lol cute!
02:05 PM on 02/29/2012
As long as they dont lie
MajMike
Retired USAF Major, 100% DAV due to combat wounds
03:30 PM on 02/26/2012
I think the monitoring of public websites and other public activities is the price we pay for living in a post-911 world, but I/we don't have to like it. I think the insertion of officers into the groups/activities went too far without clear evidence of wrongdoing before they did it.
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mensakid
All of my assets are a gift from GOD!
08:39 AM on 02/27/2012
SIR: With all due respect, waiting for something to happen before you do somethiong about it is the reason almost 3,000 people died on 9/11.
MajMike
Retired USAF Major, 100% DAV due to combat wounds
01:42 PM on 02/27/2012
Are you referring to my second statement? If so I point out that manpower is limited and by focusing it on areas where wrongdoing has been established we will (most likely) get the biggrest bang for the buck. Also, I for one refuse to surrender my liberty to be free from unreasonable police searches and surveillance when no crime has been committed. As Ben Franklin said " Any man willing to surrender liberty for (the illusion of) safety deserves neither". p.s. I belong to Mensa too, and TOPS as well.
10:00 PM on 02/27/2012
Actually, no it's not, that has a little more to do with not paying attention to specific threats and warnings at the time they were given. Pre-emptive strikes against people who didn't mean us any harm is why the next 9-11 is certain to occur in one form or another.