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Conservatives' Plans To Drug Test Welfare Recipients Get Momentum, Earn Support Of GOP Candidates

Welfare Drug Testing

By BEN NEARY and IVAN MORENO   02/25/12 12:40 AM ET  AP

CHEYENNE, Wyo. -- Conservatives who say welfare recipients should have to pass a drug test to receive government assistance have momentum on their side.

The issue has come up in the Republican presidential campaign, with front-runner Mitt Romney saying it's an "excellent idea."

Nearly two dozen states are considering plans this session that would make drug testing mandatory for welfare recipients, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. And Wyoming lawmakers advanced such a proposal this week.

Driving the measures is a perception that people on public assistance are misusing the funds and that cutting off their benefits would save money for tight state budgets – even as statistics have largely proved both notions untrue.

"The idea, from Joe Taxpayer is, `I don't mind helping you out, but you need to show that you're looking for work, or better yet that you're employed, and that you're drug and alcohol free,'" said Wyoming Republican House Speaker Ed Buchanan on Friday.

Supporters are pushing the measures despite warnings from opponents that courts have struck down similar programs, ruling that the plans amount to an unconstitutional search of people who have done nothing more than seek help.

"This legislation assumes suspicion on this group of people. It assumes that they're drug abusers," said Wyoming Democratic Rep. Patrick Goggles during a heated debate on the measure late Thursday.

The proposals aren't new, according to the NCSL. About three dozen states have taken up such measures over the years.

But as lawmakers seek new ways to fight off the effect of the recession on state budgets and Republican politics dominate the national discussion as the party seeks a presidential nominee, the idea has sparked political debates across the nation.

This year conservative lawmakers in 23 states from Wyoming to Mississippi – where lawmakers want random screening to include nicotine tests – are moving forward with proposals of their own.

Romney, in an interview this month in Georgia, supported the idea. "People who are receiving welfare benefits, government benefits, we should make sure they're not using those benefits to pay for drugs," Romney said to WXIA-TV in Atlanta.

Newt Gingrich addressed the topic with Yahoo News in November, saying he considered testing as a way to curb drug use and lower related costs to public programs.

"It could be through testing before you get any kind of federal aid – unemployment compensation, food stamps, you name it," he said.

In Idaho, budget analysts last year concluded that such a program would cost more money than it would save, prompting lawmakers to ditch the idea.

Also, recent federal statistics indicate that welfare recipients are no more likely to abuse drugs than the general population.

Data show that about 8 percent of the population uses drugs. And before a random drug testing program in Michigan was put on hold by a court challenge, about 8 percent of its public assistance applicants tested positive.

In years past such legal challenges had a chilling effect on state legislatures, but that seems to have thawed.

Michigan's program was halted after five weeks in 1999, eventually ending with an appeals court ruling that it was unconstitutional.

For more than a decade, no other state moved to implement such a law.

"The biggest piece that has held up action now and in the past are the constitutional questions," said Rochelle Finzel, the Children and Families Program manager at the NCSL.

But Florida last year passed legislation that was eventually halted by a federal court ruling that cited constitutional concerns.

Finzel said some states are trying to avoid court challenges by requiring drug tests only in cases where there's reasonable cause to believe there's substance abuse, instead of requiring everyone to take a test.

Missouri took that approach in passing a law last year that hasn't gotten tied up in court, but which has touched off an attempt at political one-upsmanship from a House Republican who introduced a bill this month that would require his colleagues at the state Capitol to take and pass the same test.

In Wyoming, the Republican-controlled state House handily approved a welfare drug testing bill after a fiery debate Thursday. The plan sailed through a second vote Friday and needs only one more reading before heading to the solidly-conservative state Senate, where a key leader supports the concept.

In Colorado, a testing plan is expected to fail because Democrats who oppose it control the state Senate – but Republicans have succeeded in starting a conversation on the issue.

"If you can afford to buy drugs, and use drugs, you don't need" welfare, said Republican Rep. Jerry Sonnenberg, who is sponsoring a bill this session.

Sonnenberg said his bill also seeks to help drug users get clean because applicants must complete rehab to qualify for government aid again.

Sonnenberg's critics said the idea feeds off the negative – and unsubstantiated – stereotype that low-income communities are more likely to use drugs. Sonnenberg said he's not picking on any group, and pointed out that the legislation would likely have a narrow effect.

"The five percent, or the four percent, or whatever that percentage is that is on drugs, will have a choice to make. They will either do what they can to get clean, or not have their (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) funds," he said.

In Wyoming, Republican Rep. Frank Peasley, a co-sponsor of the testing bill, said the measure is an effort to rein in a welfare system run amok.

"We are going broke," he said,

But Linda Burt, director of the ACLU in Wyoming, said this week it's possible her group would challenge the testing program if it's adopted in Wyoming.

"We challenged it in Michigan. We challenged it in Florida. Both of those cases found that singling out this particular group of people for drug testing was unconstitutional with absolutely no cause."

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Associated Press writer Ivan Moreno contributed reporting from Denver.

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TXfemmom 01:35 PM on 02/25/2012
Unemployment and being poor is bad enough without being assaulted verbally and legal for being so.  Drug testing is far from cheap, and at a time when we are having budgetary problems this severe, wasting our resources on drug testing is absurd. 

Besides, if they want to test those who receive those benefits, we should have drug testing instituted for those who make the laws, as well.   Read More...
07:06 PM on 02/29/2012
Hey. If I need to pass a drug test for a job, shouldn't you need to to get welfare? Is that very unreasonable?
02:24 PM on 03/28/2012
Thing is, you don't need to pass a drug test to get every job.
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turboturd
I need help! And a pony!
07:34 PM on 02/27/2012
Effff you from the bottom of my heart anyone who would support this inhuman garbage.
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Rick Carufel
Constitutionalist
02:23 PM on 02/27/2012
This is just another attempt by the Republican'ts to trash the constitution. No-one has the give any evidence that can be used against them without due process as per the 5th Amendment of the Constitution. These people who seek to destroy the Constitution are traitors and their attempts to pass legislation that takes away rights are treason. They should be thrown in jail. By no means vote for anyone who sponsors or supports such criminal legislation. VOTE THEM ALL OUT.
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1dljones
Just because they have the power does not make the
01:52 PM on 02/27/2012
Damn, now I am confused. Somebody help me with this. 1) I thought it was the republicans who wanted the government off of the peoples' backs. 2) I thought that they wanted freedom of religion, not religious persecution. 3) I thought they were for the little guy and not big business.
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Rick Carufel
Constitutionalist
02:15 PM on 02/27/2012
It's like the old joke; How can you tell when a Republican't's lying? His lips are moving.
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ShanaJuly
08:56 AM on 02/27/2012
Gawd these people are despicable and this country can not afford to have them in charge of anything...
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JoeQPublic for President
03:43 AM on 02/27/2012
Wyoming legislature uses state police to make anonymous harassing calls to citizens who lawfully oppose gun bills. http://www.LaserRadio.com/usaatty.pdf
Then, to protect these agents, the current Governor (once US Atty, above) sent two armed cops to the citizen's house to threaten them into silence http://www.Laserradio.com/forrest.wav
Fifty interviews across the state reveal the fascist police for the fascist elite
http://www.LaserRadio.com/dci.html
Wyoming is the most dangerous state in terms of industrial accidents, has the highest gap in pay for men and women, has 40% of kids in low income families without either parent being employed year round. It's a cesspool that created Dick Cheney's fascist vision for the world:
http://www.JustBelieve2012.com
01:30 AM on 02/27/2012
I think we should make all politicians get drug tested too.
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scottymac11
Facta non verba
11:21 PM on 02/26/2012
If it starts it won't stop with aid to dependent families. We are being subjigated step by republican't step.
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1dljones
Just because they have the power does not make the
01:56 PM on 02/27/2012
They would be haveing us pee and have credit checks, maybe even setting a credit score limit to vote.
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pragmaticalpaula
"all is impermanent."
10:41 PM on 02/26/2012
And this test fits in the Republican's idea of small government, in which way? There must be a lot of Republicans who have invested a significant amount of their money into laboratories, you know greed has to be behind all this. Why don't they leave poor people alone and go after the greedy corporation that get all those subsidies.
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Boomerang101
Maybe the hokey pokey is what its all about
10:23 PM on 02/26/2012
Uh oh. Drugs, nicotine.....What if they test for chocolate?
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ipolitics123
What an excellent day for an exorcism.
10:01 PM on 02/26/2012
There's no constitutional violation here - if you don't want to be drug tested, don't take the money. Voluntary program - voluntary testing!
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1dljones
Just because they have the power does not make the
01:58 PM on 02/27/2012
How about a test to see if you are religous enough?
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Fred Bronson
America Unite
08:15 PM on 02/26/2012
This is an idea long over due. It should have been in place from the beginning. Why tax PAYERS should fund some one drug habit is beyond me.
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giftsthatpurr
zestful life
09:59 PM on 02/26/2012
We should not have to - - but to test all who receive help - including working poor, will cost so much our taxes will go way up just o catch the few.
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Fred Bronson
America Unite
07:40 PM on 03/01/2012
It would save money, after a few hundred are caught, and lose their checks, the rest will think and figure it's not worth it
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
06:40 PM on 02/26/2012
In their effots to be smart and capricious towards the poorest in society, the republicans will wind up hurting mostly the poorest people in their own party, especially in red states where the greatest number of "welfare" recipients exist.

It's no coincidence that republican and regressive begin with the same letter.
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Jeanette DeBella Bogue
pretty sure I'm going straight to hell....
06:39 PM on 02/26/2012
A family of 4 who qualify for food stamps receive approx $425 per month. That is not a lot of money for food, let alone a crack habit.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
06:36 PM on 02/26/2012
Great. Then the "welfare recipient" list should include:

Farm subsidies
Tax credits and exemptions for corporations
Capital gains recipients
Government contractors
Oil and gas company subsidies
State and congressional pay recipients...
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pragmaticalpaula
"all is impermanent."
10:27 PM on 02/26/2012
I like your list, excellent idea!
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
10:35 PM on 02/26/2012
It's the VERY short list. Feel free to add.
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Marysdude
GySgt USMC (Retired)
10:35 PM on 02/26/2012
They truly have no desire to drug test anyone. They know a program like that will cost way more than it would be worth. It is not about people taking advantage of government programs...it's about distraction. Conservatives have NO PLAN. All this time and all this whining, and Conservatives have NO PLAN. They do not want you to think...especially don't want you to think real issues. They want you to think about almost anything except jobs/economy/world situation. Contraception, gay marriage, religion, armageddon...ANYTHING except real ISSUES.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
10:49 PM on 02/26/2012
If only they were that smart. Usually the implement autocratic, authoritarian programs that cost a lot of mney and require a lot of resources then say, "oops!" the once the screw up and blow up the budget then they try to blame the democrats and make it as difficult as possible to bring spending back under control again. It all sounds very familiar.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
10:51 PM on 02/26/2012
...money..., ...Then once they screwup the budget...