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Corporate Immunity Looks Likely: Supreme Court Seems Ready To Side With Shell In Human Rights Suit (Update)

Posted: 02/28/12 12:19 PM ET  |  Updated: 02/28/12 05:13 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court on Tuesday morning appeared divided along party lines, with a conservative majority ready to hold that corporations cannot be held accountable in federal courts for international human rights violations.

The Court was hearing oral argument in Kiobel v. Royal Dutch Petroleum, which was brought under a founding-era law, commonly called the Alien Tort Statute, that allows foreign nationals to bring civil lawsuits in U.S. federal courts "for a tort only, committed in violation of the law of nations or a treaty of the United States." The 12 Nigerian plaintiffs contend that Shell Oil's parent company aided and abetted the Nigerian government in its torture and extrajudicial killing of environmental and human rights protesters resisting Shell's operations in Nigeria in the 1990s.

The Alien Tort Statute says nothing about what types of defendants -- corporate, individual, state -- may be sued. In the past year, the four appeals courts to take on the issue of corporate liability have divided 3-to-1 in favor of those bringing the lawsuits. But Tuesday's oral argument reinforced the relevancy of another aspect of all these decisions: their partisan nature. Save one defection from each side, every Democrat-appointed judge held for corporate liability, and every Republican appointee found for corporate immunity.

At the very start of the Supreme Court's argument, Justice Anthony Kennedy said that "the case turns in large part" on Royal Dutch Petroleum's argument in its brief that "international law does not recognize corporate liability." He then pulled a quote from Chevron's brief in support of its fellow multinational oil company, which said, "No other nation in the world permits its court to exercise universal civil jurisdiction over alleged extraterritorial human rights abuses to which the nation has no connection."

"I was trying to find the best authority you have to refute that proposition," Kennedy told the Nigerians' lawyer, Paul Hoffman.

Hoffman responded that the United Kingdom and the Netherlands have somewhat similar laws on their books. Problem is, those two countries submitted briefs opposing Hoffman's position in this case.

Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Samuel Alito and Antonin Scalia also expressed hostility not only to the notion of corporate liability, but also to the Alien Tort Statute itself. This lawsuit, Alito noted, was brought by foreign plaintiffs against a foreign defendant for acts that took place in a foreign country. "What business does a case like that have in the courts of the United States?" he asked Hoffman.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg tried to push back against Alito's line of questioning, noting that the Supreme Court has already allowed such cases to be brought under the Alien Tort Statute. "I thought what we were talking about today, the question was, is it only individual defendants or are corporate defendants also liable," said Ginsburg.

In questioning Deputy Solicitor General Edwin Kneedler, who was arguing in support of the Nigerians, Roberts said, "Your argument seems to be that all you need to do is find an event -- torture, piracy, whatever -- and then it's up to the domestic law whether or not particular entities can be sued." That analysis, which Roberts summed up in a disapproving tone, was the reasoning used by the majorities of three lower courts to find for corporate liability.

Justice Stephen Breyer at first expressed skepticism about creating a "United States Supreme Court of the World," but then pivoted toward a position in favor of finding corporate liability. Objecting to the categorical rule adopted by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit that corporations may never be sued, Breyer said, "I seem to think possibly of counterexamples."

"Pirates Inc.," Breyer offered for consideration, implicitly noting that the Alien Tort Statute was originally passed in 1789 in part to allow suits arising from acts of piracy.

Breyer drew out his hypothetical for attorney Kathleen Sullivan, representing Royal Dutch Petroleum. "Do you think in the 18th century if [victims of piracy] brought [suit against] Pirates Inc., and we get all their gold, and Blackbeard gets up and he says, 'Oh, it isn't me, it's the corporation' -- do you think that [courts] would have said then, ‘Oh, I see, it's a corporation. Goodbye, go home'?"

"Justice Breyer, yes, the corporation would not be liable," Sullivan answered.

Relying on the principle articulated by Justice Kennedy at the start of the argument -- the same one endorsed by the Republican appointees in the lower courts -- Sullivan said that the plaintiffs "failed to show anything in custom or practice" to prove corporate liability for human rights abuses is an accepted international legal norm.

That is because all the international conventions and treaties Sullivan cited "are written to prohibit certain acts, and they don't talk about the actors," said Justice Elena Kagan.

"It's as if somebody came and said, 'This norm of international law does not apply to Norwegians,'" Kagan hypothesized. "But of course it applies to Norwegians because it prevents everybody from committing a certain kind of act."

Sullivan responded by arguing that some international law treaties, such as those banning terrorist financing and bribery of public officials, explicitly refuse to limit defendants to real people, whereas the "human rights offenses here" -- torture, extrajudicial killing, crimes against humanity -- "arise from conventions that speak to individual liability."

That answer did not satisfy Kagan. "All United States law and mostly in other countries' law would hold the corporation liable for the individual's act," she said. "That’s a general principle of law."

The back-and-forth between Sullivan and Kagan, which highlighted the irreconcilable, results-oriented divide between the two sides' arguments, ended as a stalemate between two career contemporaries: Each served as dean of one of the country's best law schools -- Sullivan at Stanford, Kagan at Harvard.

In the end, however, Sullivan appeared to have the Court's five-justice majority of Republican appointees on her side, if the typically silent Justice Clarence Thomas sticks to his previously expressed narrow views on the Alien Tort Statute and general pro-business bent.

A decision in the case is expected by the end of June.

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outlandish 01:48 PM on 02/28/2012
“Republican -speak"

"Sound Jurisprudence" = court rulings conservatives like
"Judicial Activism" = court rulings conservatives despise.

"Special Interests" = lobbyists conservatives don't like
"Industry Spokesmen = lobbyists on the conservative payroll

"Law and Order" = government enforcing laws conservatives like
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Corie Lemmon
09:25 PM on 03/17/2012
Corporations want to be people, except when they have to be held accountable for something.......If they wanted to be people, they need to be people, not just when it benefits them. They need to take the good with the bad, like the real people have to.
04:50 PM on 03/01/2012
"Corporations may never be sued"????

Dang, I wish I was a person that could never be sued...
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Lochness71
Here I am.
01:47 PM on 03/01/2012
America protector of environmental and human rights violators.
Maybe the Nigerians should incorporate in America to get better legal rights.
11:53 AM on 03/01/2012
Sounds like the Supreme Court, not only regards corporations as people, but super people above people.
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moonlightesq
07:09 PM on 02/29/2012
Just because a corporation is found not liable for a crime committed, it does not means the natural person or persons who physically committed the crime - albeit at the direction of the corporation - is free and not liable for the crime.

Reading these comments, I see a lack of understanding of subject matter jurisdiction that our courts operate on and also a misconception that a corporation has greater rights and immunities than natural persons, which is not the case. The natural person who carried out the crime will be separately punished, and a corproation can be fined into extinction, have its charter revoked, suspended, and its assets confiscated, leading to its eventual demise (death).

For practical reason, even if a U.S. court find a foreign corporation guilty of a crime committed on a foreign soil with victims unrelated to the U.S., the judgement may be useless and unenforceable outside of the U.S.
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Lochness71
Here I am.
01:48 PM on 03/01/2012
So if I incorporate myself do I get legal immunity too?
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moonlightesq
02:07 PM on 03/01/2012
No.
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06:48 PM on 02/29/2012
From the Martinshushu Blog Post WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 27, 2010:

Hard Scrabble Economics Part I

Some Important Questions as a tip of the hat to Carey McWilliams and others:

1) When do corporation-people die?
2) Why do corporation-people pay federal taxes at a lower rate than human-people?
3) Why can a corporation-people deduct any expenses in running the business like golf tee fees and donuts for the jet, and human-people cannot?
4) If a corporation-people kills someone, like Dow chemical did in India in the 1980's, why is a corporation-people shielded from the death penalty?
5) If David Bowie is a corporation-people, and he is, then can he be a non-profit corporation-people?
6) Can the Shiite Sect of the Islamic religion be incorporated as a corporation-people so they can get grant money from TARP just like AIG?
7) If the Shiite corporation-people has two hundred million shareholders, is the Shiite corporation-people too big to fail?
8) If I am a Zoroastrian Fire worshipper can I become a corporation-people, and can I get Goldman-Sachs to help me with an IPO?

Enough for now. There are many, many more questions for this.
What do you all think?

Martinshushu,
(Admittedly once a benefactor of some of the tax and accounting rules from my ownership of three different corporation-people)
05:38 PM on 02/29/2012
How are we to acquire a reliable source of fuel when all these radical environmentalists and hippies get in the way. The Nigerian government was right in how it dealt with these eco-terrorists and the US should follow their example. I hope the US Supreme Court rules in favor of Shell.
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04:29 PM on 02/29/2012
I feel that it is just wrong, in lack of a better word, that corporations are humans in one perspective and not in another. It is like Corporations are like Blade, "with all the strengths/benefits but none of the weakness". If a corporation assist, even every legal form of the word, in a crime against humanity then they should be at fault. So, what we are saying here is if you are a corporation then you can kill, rape, etc. in foreign countries.

Even if it is a jurisdiction issue, we can not put our nose in the internal affairs in foreign countries and take action. Then, with the same breath, say corporations are immune from these foreign affairs.
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wordenreport
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03:29 PM on 02/29/2012
In http://www.thewordenreport.blogspot.com/2012/02/corporate-legal-personhood-in-kiobel.html, I argue that the issue in the oral arguments should have been whether corporations are legal persons rather than on the relationship between U.S. and international law or the constitutionality of the Alien Torts Statute itself. This is especially so given the controversial nature of the Court's Citizens' United decision. At the very least, we need some clarity of decision on whether corporations are persons, or at least on who should decide--the electorate, the Congress or the Court.
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FiredUpRTG
Don't start no stuff; won't be no stuff…
02:27 PM on 02/29/2012
THIS is why every vote counts.

Obama 2012, Warren 2016
11:57 AM on 02/29/2012
I think Alito has it right when he said: "This lawsuit was brought by foreign plaintiffs against a foreign defendant for acts that took place in a foreign country. What business does a case like that have in the courts of the United States?"........case closed! Next case please!
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moonlightesq
01:04 PM on 02/29/2012
It was brought here to allow the liberal justices on our courts to make policy statement, which they have no business making.
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deedar
05:20 PM on 02/29/2012
Hahaha - wrong place for this talking point. Better luck next time, pal.
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06:15 PM on 02/29/2012
Apparently you didn't bother reading the next paragraph:

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg tried to push back against Alito's line of questioning, noting that the Supreme Court has already allowed such cases to be brought under the Alien Tort Statute.
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moonlightesq
06:38 PM on 02/29/2012
Ginsburg missed the point because subject matter jurisdiction (whether U.S. Court has the right to hear such a case) can be challenged in any point of the proceeding, and must be resolved before arguing about the merit of any case - whether Shell is liable.
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Sigger
We're all in this together - most understand that
10:11 AM on 02/29/2012
The Bush supreme court appointees have turned this country into a fascist state, where people without money or power, are chattel and subservient to our corporate masters. It is called "destruction of society from within". It does not take anyone with much vision at all to see that these people, wrapped in their flags, only have their own interests at heart, and they don't give a twit about the Constitution or America, or the long term consequences for our society.
06:49 PM on 02/29/2012
Long ago Lincon said that the United States is destined to live through all time - unless it chooses death by suicide. It seems inescapable that our fate is the latter, playing out over the decades since the 1968 election.

I am reminded once again of the Romans, who minted coins celebrating "the Glory of the Republic" four hundred years after Augustus assumed all the authority of the state unto himself while keeping all the offices of the republic, but stripped of their power to represent the people's interests.
01:24 AM on 03/09/2012
I fail to distinguish how the flavor of the left jackboot stomping my face is any different from the right one.
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topkatt27
Kryptonite for Conservatives and Religious Right
08:27 AM on 02/29/2012
I just incorporated my entire family!!! We are in the survival business..... trying to survive the Republican created economy and Conservative Christian oppression!!! Immunity! Sweet, sweeeeet immunity!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing is the responsibility of the GOP except Biblically supported oppression of non-believers..................... That's what gets the Christian vote for the Mammonite Republicans and racially motivated Tea Party!!! KEEP LIQUOR LEGAL SO THE WEALTHY CAN PARTY AND KEEP EVERYTHING ELSE ILLEGAL SO THERE IS "PROBABLE CAUSE" TO OPPRESS THE HEATHENS!!!!
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zappbrannigan420
I'm not taking attendance you dork!
11:56 AM on 02/29/2012
And so the conspiracy nuts have come out.
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ghkusa
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
08:08 AM on 02/29/2012
It seems that the emphasis on corporate liability or immunity obscures the fact that individuals, that is natural persons, as well as corporations could conceivably be held liable in such suits if they are permitted.

Liberal though he is and likely to permit such litigation in the US, Justice Stephen Breyer said it best when he succinctly "...expressed skepticism about creating a 'United States Supreme Court of the World'...." Come on, Justice Breyer, keep that dangerous absurdity in mind when deciding!
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runswthscisors40
Poor planning on your part is not an emergency
07:03 AM on 02/29/2012
This lawsuit, Alito noted, was brought by foreign plaintiffs against a foreign defendant for acts that took place in a foreign country. "What business does a case like that have in the courts of the United States?"

Enough said..................