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T.J. Lane, 17-Year-Old Suspect In Ohio School Shooting, 'Not Well,' Prosecutor Says

THOMAS J. SHEERAN and KEVIN BEGOS   02/29/12 02:34 AM ET  AP

CHARDON, Ohio — The 17-year-old suspect in a deadly rampage at an Ohio high school has appeared in juvenile court as the community grieves with relatives of the three students killed.

A prosecutor says suspect T.J. Lane admitted taking a .22-caliber pistol to Chardon High and firing 10 shots at a group of students sitting at a cafeteria table Monday.

A judge ordered Lane held for at least 15 days. The court hearing Tuesday offered few answers about what prompted the shootings.

A prosecutor described Lane as "someone who's not well" and said the teen didn't know the victims but chose them randomly.

A fourth student who was hurt remained hospitalized in serious condition late Tuesday. Police said an injured Chardon student was released from the hospital and was home with her family.

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CHARDON, Ohio — The 17-year-old suspect in a deadly rampage at an Ohio high school has appeared in juvenile court as the community grieves with relatives of the three students killed. A prosecu...
CHARDON, Ohio — The 17-year-old suspect in a deadly rampage at an Ohio high school has appeared in juvenile court as the community grieves with relatives of the three students killed. A prosecu...
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06:19 PM on 03/05/2012
After reading that long note on facebook he wrote it didn't surprise me at all of what he did. Just seeing that shows that he isn't mentally stable... I think we should also look at the other 3 people who liked his comment.
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imanormalalien
and yes, it's a MGMT reference
06:11 PM on 03/06/2012
that was a great piece of writing, tbh, but it definitely should have sent off a lot of red flags. but then again, hindsight is 20/20.
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08:09 PM on 03/02/2012
I didnt have the family 'tribe'. All i had was the government.I suffered a nervous breakdown working at night and trying to raise my kid. she had autistic tendancies,the doctors didnt see anything. My second daughters been diagnosed as bi-polar at age 28. She had two boys 1. asburger/bipolar/autistic (13 yr old) and i will say 'down syndrom/autistic/asburger' without anger issues on the 9 yr old.The oldest couldnt speak until he was about 3 or 4. the youngest just started speaking,cannot control his bowels,wears a diaper and has touch sensitivity issues. When i was growing up the government had mental hospitals.We NEED them back.Parents do NOT know how to diagnos or raise kids. I needed knowledge. All kids need to figure out who they are and how to express themselves in appropriate ways. I dont know the direction my oldest grandson will take, but would if? Am i responsible for what he does? How can i be? I cant build an escape proof habitate for him, feed him, cloth him, educate him and see that he doesnt harm your child, you all would tag me a child abuser.Tell me, what do i do to keep YOUR kid safe?
07:22 PM on 03/02/2012
With our horrible courts they will let this killer loose as they did with OJ and other killers.
Hope this killer rots and kills himself and saves our tax payers time and money that
could be used for better reasons than to keep him alive.
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dbrett480
06:22 PM on 03/02/2012
Hopefully he is charged as an adult and gets life without parole.
02:17 PM on 03/06/2012
i agree one hundred percent
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edko426
03:46 PM on 03/02/2012
We need to bring back the draft and put all these kids inthe Army
06:14 PM on 03/02/2012
So we put everyone in the Army regardless of their mental capacity. That does not solve the problem. A broken home..signs of problems with him...clear indicators of issues. The Army is not the cure all to all problems. I want to be sure that someone that has my back is competent in all areas.
07:24 PM on 03/05/2012
I hope to God you are not equating murderers and other felons with the patriotic Americans who VOLUNTEER to serve their country, defend its sanctity and fight for freedom around the world. This is an example of entitlement gone bad: you have what I want...and because I dont have whatever, I am going to blow YOUR head off... Kinda like those entitlement programs the prez and his liberal chronies are selling. Its only fair, right????
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karieannw
03:37 PM on 03/02/2012
Was he on some type of medication? What was his home life like? In one of his photos, he looks muscular yet very skinny and his eyes look like someone drugged, tired, or without sleep. He has his arms crossed in a defensive stance. He is not smiling, nor does he look like a teenager with a contented happy life. Not to defend his actions but something is wrong. Most teenagers have photos of themselves with their friends, their activities, looking happy. He looks very isolated and alone. I feel sorry for him, he has just destroyed his life and those of his family. Even more than that, he destroyed families of generations to come. No children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren, etc....beloved family moments and memories of his murdered victims are gone forever.

If you are a troubled teenager, seek help. Don't resort to violence to yourself or others. Seek help, demand it from somewhere. Go to a school counselor, an ER, a doctor, call a hotline. Do something ! Violence closes off your options forever.
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dirtydog1776
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03:00 PM on 03/02/2012
Typical of most kids today.....unchallenged, bored, unable to think for themselves, rude and disrespectful. They need instant gratification and for everything to go their way. Their impulsive behavior is catered to and the concept of assuming responsibility for their actions is considered unnecessary.

Typical of our failing public school system that mass produces such a product.

Not sure if I missed something, but supposedly this young person was bullied and taunted, but very little evidence to support that. (I know his girl friend left him. "Oh, boo hoo, my girlfriend left me, I need to kill some people, that will show them.") It could be that he made himself into the type of person that other people do not want to associate with.
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edko426
03:42 PM on 03/02/2012
Amen.
12:07 AM on 03/03/2012
You use the word "typical" too easily. The fact that this kid killed other kids does not indicate that it's "most" kids are unchallenged, bored, irresponsible etc etc. In fact every other person present at that table was, in all likelihood, a good kid who will grow to be valued citizens, mine was a good lad and his little sleep over guest were good kids, he's grown into a fine young man, respectful, noble, and kind, My cousin's also raised fine children, my neighbors children are respectful and well mannered and there are many good parents out there doing a great job. Take a bit of time to look around you and you'll see that it's not every kid that's going to hell in a hand basket. We all get to be cynical as we grow older but we need to be aware of it. If you think so many kids are rotten apples then go out there and help, mentor be a "big brother" make yourself useful. It's a complex world with complex problems.
02:55 PM on 03/02/2012
Hes a animal, and I believe he should rot in prison

RIP for the ones that did die, it is a shame some low-life scum would do such a thing
01:57 PM on 03/02/2012
But hey let's keep making guns available to everyone because that's our right to bare arms as Americans! Yes, we should all arm ourselves to the teeth, and if there's ever the slightest insult or even a dirty look just start firing on those suckers! Die Americans! Die!

...this country is so sick and twisted.
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dirtydog1776
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02:53 PM on 03/02/2012
Sorry, but I don't agree with your ranting and raving. The right to bear arms is balanced by the need to assume responsibility for one's personal actions, as any freedom is. Having a firearm does not give anyone the right to harm another person or personal property.

But the concept of personal responsibility is anathema to liberals and leftists who believe in license but not responsibility.

You just don't get it.
03:14 PM on 03/02/2012
Perfect example of why people like you should not own or be around a firearm. It takes responsibility to handle a fire arm just as it does driving a car, drinking, ect. But as for the most vulgar display of an insult as you just displayed, that I will NOT repeat.... If I were in the country you are from ( which i don't know of ) I would not see the people of that country or the government respecting my American opinion in the way you just showed yours. Now the one thing I do know is this, sure my government will allow you to say what you said ... put you in a data base per the severity of what you said and you'll probably never know or care unless you act on the atrocious statement above. But as for Americans, say that in public. See how you are met in the streets of any American town. Try mine, no assault or firing off rounds... You'll just get the American kicked into you. And Bub... I take a night in jail and a fine to stand for any American you would wish to bring death on.

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01:16 PM on 03/03/2012
You sound like a typical dumb old, gun caring, Fox News watching loser...Bub! And being the idiot that you are, you actually surmised that I would want to be around anything that resembles a firearm, you didn't even understand what I wrote!. I can only hope that you or one of your loved ones meets with a tragedy that involves these guns which you love and have such reverence for. Perhaps then you'll see them as instruments of death and destruction, which is what they are nothing more. He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. I don't know about that night in jail you're hoping for Bub, I think a pine box is more like where you'll end up...RIP
10:12 AM on 03/02/2012
There were 'signs' of emotional instability with this young man long before this incident. What people need to understand is how hard it is to get someone, anyone, to a professional who can diagnose, and sometimes 'save' people who are withdrawn and a danger to themselves or others. We need to stop with the 'blind eye' and start 'focusing' on these emotional and mental conditions that exist in people who decide one morning to blow away their friends or family. Denial is as big an issue as the psychosis that drives this behavior. Regardless of any of these issues, this boy will spend the rest of his life as 'bait' for adult prisoners. Maybe if we had a 'tv show' about how much 'fun' prison 'is not' , there will be some hesitation to commit violent crimes. At least one would hope it would be a deterent. Very sad story for the families of the victims. I doubt the killer has anyone that cares about him or them. No surprise.
12:48 PM on 03/02/2012
I agreed with you until the last sentence and the one before that. Sometimes it is so very hard to get help for someone. the juvenile system in particular, especially in the state of Wisconsin, needs to recognize when the parents speak to the courts or any authority about help for their child it needs to be given. period. not an endless stream of reasons why help can not be given until the child commits a serious crime. My heart goes out to all of these victims including the shooter. And the people who love him.
01:32 PM on 03/02/2012
Sugar, you are right... and yes, the last two sentences were not fair.. the people that have to live with this should be considered victims, as well. They will be suffering for a long time. When someone you love does something so terrible, you question your thought process... 'could I have done anything' or 'what did we do'. Getting help for emotional or mental issues is a problem everywhere.. Our jails are full of people that needed help... and didn't receive any. Access to mental health professionals is so important... but seems to be the last on the list for those making the rules. Having a physical disease is recognizable and always treated.... mental issues are harder to detect and the last to be treated. Very sad state of affairs... there were signs... there are always signs... but the stigma somehow keeps people from seeing those signs.
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edko426
03:43 PM on 03/02/2012
It think its time the schools started profiling bad and high risk kids like this. Wher are the guidance counselors???? do they have such a thing anymore?
06:32 PM on 03/02/2012
They had them when I was in school in the 60's. I don't know if they still exist in the system. I had an incident in Jr.High and said to someone " I just might as well kill myself'. The prior summer someone in my family had failed at suicide, and this point was apparently brought up to the guidance counselor and for the rest of my school career until graduation, I saw the school psychiatrist every week. Looking back, I am grateful, although I can't imagine doing that.... someone else took the time to see that I had some guidance. With all the ways kids can communicate these days, you'd hope someone was listening... there are signs... and he needed help, obviously.
09:38 AM on 03/02/2012
"Suspect is not well" Ya Think?? What moron would expect him to be normal? Of course he's 'not well'.
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edko426
03:45 PM on 03/02/2012
I know. I think we all knew this right away.
The prosecutor has a flair for understatement, last week he was quoted as saying, "yea that Charlie Manson, he's a character."
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NativeHorn
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06:29 AM on 03/02/2012
Life without parole. We cannot afford to have such a dangerous and unstable person walking free-ever.
07:25 PM on 03/02/2012
Why should be even keep this killer alive? Place him in a cell with Big Pappa Budda and
this killer will not last long and we will not need to waste tax payers time and good money to
have him live another second.
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imanormalalien
and yes, it's a MGMT reference
06:14 PM on 03/06/2012
people can't change? people f*** up, that doesn't mean we have to condemn them
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Killermolls44
The night is dark and full of terrors.
11:58 PM on 03/01/2012
Well clearly! I mean you're obviously mentally unstable if you go and shoot people.
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FinFan34
Done being silent
09:54 PM on 03/01/2012
The fact that this kid is "not well" is not exactly news. I think we figured that out when he went blasting away at the kids in his school.
04:44 PM on 03/01/2012
He's got more Facebook friends than me