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Syria Violence: Opposition Seeks Heavy Weapons And Support Abroad For Bosnia-Style War

Syria Opposition Heavy Weapons

First Posted: 03/ 4/2012 12:16 pm Updated: 03/ 4/2012 11:03 pm


BEIRUT, March 4 (Reuters) - Few close observers of the Syrian conflict believe the uprising that began nearly a year ago is anything like over, and nor do they believe that President Bashar al-Assad can use the siege of Homs as a springboard to regain full control of the country.

Syrian troops entered the ruins of Baba Amro, the rebel enclave in Homs that succumbed to month of artillery and tank bombardment, amid loyalist claims that Assad had broken the back of a Western-sponsored terror campaign against his government.

Yet some experts believe the authorities' brutality will lead to a drawn-out Bosnia-style war as well as the further militarisation of a conflict that began as a civil uprising inspired by revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt.

"The Syrian regime has won one battle in a war it is not guaranteed to win," said Nabil Boumonsef, a columnist at Beirut's an-Nahar newspaper. "It took the Syrian forces one month of siege to enable them to enter Baba Amro district - this is not a sweeping military victory."

"The opposition will continue. They will not rest or forgive or turn back," Boumonsef said.

REBELS TO SEEK HEAVY WEAPONS

It was always clear that superior loyalist forces could overcome the lightly armed Free Syrian Army, made up of army defectors and rebels who have taken up arms. Human rights groups and activists say that between 700 and 1,000 civilians may have perished in Baba Amro, the worst single toll of the conflict.

"You would expect the regime after several weeks of heavy pounding to retake a small neighbourhood like Baba Amro," said Peter Harling, Syria specialist at the International Crisis Group. "This is not a turning point in the revolution; it is one more development. The rebels will try for heavier arms, and to obtain help from abroad."

The regime's unremitting use of force against Baba Amro - "flattening the neighbourhood on its inhabitants" in the words of Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East Director at Human Rights Watch - is unlikely to end the uprising but will likely further radicalise Syrian society.

"I don't think the demonstration effect of wreaking the kind of havoc that they have in Baba Amro is necessarily going to kill off the uprising", said Salman Shaikh at the Brookings Doha centre.

"The uprisings will be in hundreds of locations in the upcoming days. This is not just a fight with the Muslim Brotherhood or any one constituency, this is now a fight with the people of Syria."

While the Assad narrative is that government forces are acting to protect local communities against armed gangs and Islamist terrorists, they are in fact inflicting collective punishments on areas that have supported the uprising.

"Take Baba Amro", says Harling of the ICG: "What has the regime done for the civilians there? They made no serious effort to protect the people. They punished them collectively and this will further radicalise the people."

Neither side is likely to change strategy. The government will use military might to force the opposition into submission and the Free Syrian Army, so far relying on smuggled weapons, will seek foreign sources of heavy weapons, funds and fighters.

One tactic the rebels might use is suicide bomb attacks against government symbols similar to those carried out by al-Qaeda in Iraq.

There are reports that Arab Islamist fighters joined rebels in Baba Amro and other strongholds and that more could arrive.


LIKE FATHER LIKE SON

The Assads, for their part - in particular Maher al-Assad, Bashar's younger brother and military enforcer - are seen as capable of committing another Homs or even a Hama, where forces loyal to Assad's father Hafez and his brother Rifa'at, killed up to 20,000 people to crush an Islamist uprising in 1982.

"The son and the brother have done what the father and the uncle did in Hama. They are following a similar playbook. What demonstrative effect does this have on the protesters themselves? I don't think they are going to be cowed," Shaikh said.

"If people are treated this way, more and more will take up arms," he said.

But despite the militarisation of the conflict and the erosion of state authority, Assad retains the loyalty of the military, political and security establishment, and is unlikely to be overthrown in the short term.

"The conflict is transitioning into a civil war. Both the regime and the opposition have sufficient forces to sustain armed confrontation. Opposition groups are likely to grow stronger as Gulf states, primarily Qatar and Saudi Arabia, provide more arms and logistical support," Shaikh said.

Defections from the army are likely to increase but there are no signs of a split in the military leadership, and the opposition remains divided and dysfunctional.


LONG BATTLE

The Syrian National Council, the main opposition body, has not been able to provide strong leadership, devise a strategy to bring down the Assads, or set up a transitional administration for a post-Assad era.

Russian support - blocking condemnation at the UN Security Council and keeping arms flowing to Damascus - continues to signal to regime elites that Assad is still viable, decreasing the likelihood of splits, Ayham Kamel of Eurasia said.

But the number of loyal units Assad can depend on is limited to the 4th armoured division and the republican guard, solidly Alawite and commanded by Maher al-Assad. The rest of the army is commanded by Alawites and loyalists but the rank and file is Sunni and the growing number of defections shows that the authorities cannot rely on them against Sunni opposition.

A political solution is seen as out of the question. Assad's reforms so far have been criticised as superficial, inadequate and too late.

With Russia and China vetoing any Security Council resolution on Syria, the conflict could turn out to be protracted and grisly, like Bosnia, eventually sucking in the international community.

"I feel that we are going down a route where this conflict is going to take a hell of a long time. That will draw in the international community a lot more. That sounds to me a bit like Bosnia, which took a number of years to play out," Shaikh said.

The conflict has already reignited historical animosity between Sunnis and Shi'ites, from which the Alawites derive, and is raising fears that Sunni Islamists will seize power, as they are in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya, eventually tipping the balance against Assad and his regional allies in Iran and Lebanon's Shi'ite Hezbollah movement.

"There is no Syria after Assad," said a Lebanese Shi'ite leader with strong ties to Damascus. "There is an established regime and an established leader, what is the alternative to Assad? We are heading to the unknown and the opposition is dysfunctional." (Additional reporting by Laila Bassam; Editing by Giles Elgood)

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In this photo released by the Syrian official news agency SANA, Syrian President Bashar Assad casts his ballot next to his wife Asma at a polling station during a referendum on the new constitution, in Damascus, Syria, on Sunday Feb. 26, 2012. Syrians began voting on a new draft constitution aimed at quelling the country's uprising by ending the ruling Baath Party's five-decade domination of power, but the opposition announced a boycott and clashes were reported across the country. (AP Photo/SANA)

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03:08 AM on 03/07/2012
According to a Wikileaks source(bhalla@stratford.com), the US along with the usual suspects , has been actively aiding the insurgency since December with military logistics and supervision on the ground.
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Wmof2011
Repbs prance around the fed $trillns-& ruins USofA
05:30 AM on 03/05/2012
"There is no Syria after Assad,"

I thought this was an interesting comment. It sounds like Syria will be destroyed, or all the people killed, before Assad will leave. I guess Assad feel that he is the only one that matters in Syria.
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Galilee
I boycott products from Syria & Gaza dictatorships
08:37 AM on 03/05/2012
It means Syria is not really a nation, it was invented, just like the "Palestinian" Arabs. It is a group of tribes and sects that have no unique Syrian national feelings, they only share the same Arab culture.
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Wmof2011
Repbs prance around the fed $trillns-& ruins USofA
03:54 PM on 03/05/2012
Does that matter? If you think that matters, then maybe you hate the U.S. also. The U.S.A. was invented.

Whatever their feelings are, I can not say for sure. But it's likely they feel the same as others around the world about their country. The tribes and sects are support systems.
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Wmof2011
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05:27 AM on 03/05/2012
I hope the people there keep streaming in video and other information. If there are a million people doing this, then eventually it would be a waste of time looking for each one. Well, that would be my assumption. Info dispensing and fighting back as best they can, is all that seems to be available right now.
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Vyslichajici
private american citizen
05:25 AM on 03/05/2012
headline should read:
USA State Department Seeks Heavy Weapons for Syria Mercenaries
03:35 PM on 03/05/2012
Well, of course.
The PNAC agenda has not skipped a beat so far.
This scene has been a long time in planning.
What would the USA do if men had bazookas and machine guns shooting at the
National Guard ? Where did they come from ?
Now McCain wants to bomb Syria as a humaintarian gesture ?
If it were not so awful it would be funny.
02:07 AM on 03/07/2012
"What would the USA do if men had bazookas and machine guns shooting at the
National Guard ?"

I'm so glad you see how political life and expression are so similar Syria and America. After all, those disgruntled fools who just won't bow to Assad's monopoly on power should just learn to see the positive in doing without an independent civil society and icky civil liberties.

I can see how logic has brought you to apologize for a dictator engaging in war crimes.
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Egalitare
04:30 AM on 03/05/2012
This is going to be ugly for a very, very long time.
03:36 PM on 03/05/2012
That's the plan
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charleshbuchannan
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02:37 AM on 03/05/2012
I cannot say as I blame them.

I certainly would be looking for help to overthrow that monster Assad if I was unlucky enough to be a citizen of Syria.
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Vyslichajici
private american citizen
05:25 AM on 03/05/2012
sounds like you are victim of western propaganda.
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charleshbuchannan
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11:10 AM on 03/05/2012
Do tell: what spin has RT been giving you?
01:00 AM on 03/07/2012
You are very astute to see through the propaganda. We need others willfully callous to the suffering and political enthrallment of the Syrian people to dictatorship. Please forgive the striving, and bleeding, of Syrians who just don't have a grasp of how swell Assad really is.
01:22 AM on 03/05/2012
Just do a search for "Syrian Truth” and see just who these so called rebels are
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
02:16 AM on 03/05/2012
Not going to get people to listen. They sure didn't about Libya
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Sheldon archer
Facebook name is Yuyun Archer
02:34 AM on 03/05/2012
Ah. A thinking person. Stay away from the sheep. F&F
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Rubiconski
On Crisis Standby Mode
01:11 AM on 03/05/2012
No way we're arming those terrorists! No more "humanitarian" wars of aggression. No more no-fly-zones!
11:13 PM on 03/04/2012
Not with my tax dollars.

If there has to be funding, let the billionaire Arab Sheikhs handle it.

not more money from the West
11:11 PM on 03/04/2012
One tactic the rebels might use is suicide bomb attacks against government symbols similar to those carried out by al-Qaeda in Iraq. "There are reports that Arab Islamist fighters joined rebels in Baba Amro and other strongholds and that more could arrive."

Hmmmmmm ... These types of "rebels" who are "suicide bombers" we call them terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan. Has that changed?
09:56 PM on 03/04/2012
Some in the US have been trying to figure out a way to get Assad out since at least 3/27/11 when Sec. of State Clinton, during an interview with Bob Schieffer, basically laid out exactly what it would take for the US to intervene, which the US has been doing its darndest to make happen.

www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2011/03/159210.htm

Since the civilian deaths are resonating better with the media, it's taken a back seat but does anyone remember Sec. of State Clinton trotting out the IAEA (like with Iran) as "proof" that Syria was trying to get a nuclear weapon on 6/9/11? If you forgot, here it is:

www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2011/06/165388.htm

It should make you question the seriousness of the nuclear claims re: Iran. Well, that and the Director of National Intelligence's testimony to the armed services subcommittee that there were no indications Iran was trying to obtain a nuclear weapon.
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Bradley Greig Smith
Endless war is endless debt.
09:23 PM on 03/04/2012
Wow that was one seriously oddly written article. Did anyone else notice that it was all over the place and really said next to nothing? It was like they took a bunch of quotes and speculations and tossed them in a hat and pulled them out one at a time and wrote them down.

They might have just as well wrote. "Syria, it's still a mess!" and been done with it.
10:40 PM on 03/04/2012
The exact same Playbook as Libya is now happening in Syria: with the same NATO Backed AL-CIA-DA and Muslim Bro-Hood Terrorists
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Bradley Greig Smith
Endless war is endless debt.
11:13 PM on 03/04/2012
Yep that's the plan.
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krenzny
WTF?? Get up, stand up!
02:05 PM on 03/07/2012
I don't want to sound callus, but donald trump said one true thing. In libya, at least they had oil to offer. Syria has nothing to offer us but the dead bodies of our sons and daughters, that they will spit on, once we free them from assad. Let's send them food, medicine, doctors, supplies, and advisers, but not one dime, or one bullet, or one soldier. This is their civil war, and they will likely have many more.
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yaskan
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09:10 PM on 03/04/2012
The Syrian government is committing crimes against humanity,I am just hoping that Assar regime will be held accountable for all the atrocities he caused.
10:41 PM on 03/04/2012
What a shame for the innocent civilians in both Syria and Libya. I wish there were someone that genuinely cared, and could help them. I wish the UN were what it poses as….
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Sheldon archer
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02:39 AM on 03/05/2012
Maybe you should investigate a little who these rebels actually are and let me ask you, if a few thousand Americans descended on the White House and demanded the removal of the president, do you believe that the police and the military would just sit and watch?
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Gomer rs
03:53 AM on 03/05/2012
That happens every four years. That's the difference between a free and open society and a dictatorship.
03:38 PM on 03/05/2012
Waco Texas
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wom122
Primum non nocere
08:25 PM on 03/04/2012
Arming any party to a civil war is wrong and unethical.
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Ansdlmol
10:17 PM on 03/04/2012
Not so. Arming the dissidents is leveling the playing field. When they win they cannot be any worse than Assad and they WILL remember who supported them. We are trying to drag a culture {Arab} into the 21st century with the hope that we will get a more rational people when the dust settles. I know it is a crapshoot but is there any other option?
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wom122
Primum non nocere
10:48 PM on 03/04/2012
1. No situation is bad enough that it can't ge worse.
2. We armed the Afghani Jihadis against the USSR and we all know what happened next.
3. Another option? simply do nothing. Any good doctor will adhere to the Hippocratic Oath: first, do no harm.
Unless you have a good reason to believe that your intervention will suceed, you might as well not intervene at all.
11:19 PM on 03/04/2012
Arming the dissidents in Afghanistan has created what eventually became the Taliban. Arming the dissidents in Iraq/Libya has allowed Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups to infiltrate these nations. I don't think any of these groups remember the fact that they wouldn't exist if not for some form of US aid in the past. If there is any lesson to be learned from the mideast/SAsia, it's that getting rid of dictators by arming dissidents will likely to create greater problems down the line.
09:29 PM on 03/05/2012
Russia is doing it right now already.

Arming the Syrian Free Army asap would be the much better course of action than attacking Iran.
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08:21 PM on 03/04/2012
This doesn't look good. An influx of "Arab Islamist fighters" is never a good thing.
Pauline Jaing
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08:51 PM on 03/04/2012
Indeed. This is a repeat of what Carter and Brezinski did in Afghanistan -- and I'm beginning to see that perhaps this Afghanistan blowback thing is what they want since its obscene for Obamber to do this sort of thing again considering what happend last time -- and Obamber is smart, not stupid. So I guess they are aftern GONICDE on the people of the Middle East using the same tactics they used to wipe out Native Americans -- with Israel constituting the white settlers?

I dunno. Nothing else makes any sense at all.
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Anybodyseenthepopos
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12:02 AM on 03/05/2012
Actually Carter and Brezinski only increased the possibility of a Russian invasion of Iran. That led to a ten year unsustainable war, got the Soviets back for what they did to us in Vietnam, and collapsed the evil empire.
The real problem was that when the war was over Reagan and proceeding American administrations left Afghanistan to the ISI of Pakistan; rather than helping the Afghanis rebuild and have a functioning State.