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Kansas Abortion Bill: Legislators Push To Allow Medical Residents To Learn Abortion Procedures

Kansas Abortion Bill

First Posted: 03/ 5/2012 4:13 pm Updated: 03/ 5/2012 4:47 pm

Kansas lawmakers are rushing to save the state's OBGYN medical residency program, which is threatened by the state's sweeping anti-abortion bill.

One provision in the 69-page bill prohibits state employees from performing abortions during their workday, which would only impact medical residents at the University of Kansas Medical Center, the only state employees currently performing abortions. The governing body for medical residency programs requires that OBGYN residents receive training in abortion. Apparent confusion among Republican state legislators has delayed consideration of an amendment to exempt KU residents from the bill.

"The medical center has to be able to train them in abortion for accreditation," state Rep. Sean Gatewood (D-Topeka) said.

The Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education requires medical schools to offer abortion training to OBGYN residents as part of the program. Residents can opt out of the training for moral and religious reasons.

The anti-abortion bill only includes KU Medical Center residents since they are the only hospital employees considered state workers. Gatewood said doctors and nurses at the hospital are considered employees of independent foundations.

The bill is currently pending before the House's Federal and State Affairs Committee, which already held discussions regarding the medical center. The center's lobbyists had conversations with legislators about the need to amend the legislation in order to save the residency program's accreditation. Gatewood and Kari Rinker, the state coordinator from the National Organization for Women, said that state Rep. TerriLois Gregory (R-Baldwin City) was expected to offer the KU amendment, but backed out at the last minute.

Gatewood said he raised the amendment, which state Rep. Steve Brunk (R-Wichita), the committee's chairman, said did not need to be offered at that time. Gatewood said Brunk said there was confusion among Republicans on whether the amendment was actually needed. Gatewood dropped his own amendment when Brunk said the committee would deal with the issue later.

Gregory has not publicly explained suddenly dropping the amendment, but Gatewood said there is a rumor floating around Kansas political circles. "If you don't train people in abortion, then you never have abortions, that is the rumor," he said.

Brunk and Gregory did not return calls for comment left at their Topeka offices.

Center spokeswoman C.J. Janovy declined to make the hospital's lobbyists available, but did release a statement saying that the hospital was working with legislators to fix the bill. She did stress that abortions are actually not performed at the medical center.

"Accreditation requirements for OBGYN residencies, however, require that residents gain experience with induced abortion and complications due to abortion, unless they have a religious or moral objection," Janovy's statement said. "Consequently, residents in Ob/Gyn acquire necessary experience in abortion procedures elsewhere in facilities that are not owned or operated by the state of Kansas."

The bill, which will come before the committee again this week, is the most sweeping anti-abortion bill seen in Kansas in years. It includes provisions that allow doctors to withhold medical information from women that could cause them to have an abortion and not be liable in a medical malpractice suit if the mother or the baby suffers a health impairment due to withheld information. A wrongful death suit could be filed in the event the mother dies. Other provisions include telling women that abortion causes breast cancer.

Gov. San Brownback (R) has told The Huffington Post that he'll sign the bill.

Gatewood, the bill's leading opponent in the House, said he is hopeful the KU amendment passes in committee, which he said could come down to who pushes the proposal.

"I would think it would, it depends on who carries it," he said.

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Kansas lawmakers are rushing to save the state's OBGYN medical residency program, which is threatened by the state's sweeping anti-abortion bill. One provision in the 69-page bill prohibits state ...
Kansas lawmakers are rushing to save the state's OBGYN medical residency program, which is threatened by the state's sweeping anti-abortion bill. One provision in the 69-page bill prohibits state ...
 
 
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09:29 PM on 05/04/2012
I am totally not prepared to answer this question. What law has the right to withhold information from the patient under any condition? Hoover v. Hunter, Idaho Supreme Court. I am of the religion that abortion is not allowed and that argument is not the point, however no one has the right to make a medical procedure that started in the alleys and finally came to proper medical attention of making sure that this medical procedure is done with proper medical expertise is now going backwards. All i can say for any Kansas resident is that I would not vote for any congress person, state elected officials who supports this type of conduct and that is how you stop it. I can promise you this, that congress and senate person whats his/her job and if the people of Kansas do not want this type of conduct then vote them out, impeach them etc. The rules are there and were made so we the people can get people out of our government who promote this backwards thinking . As far as the governor I would never vote for him again. Just say-en IMHO
MaryIndy
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10:01 AM on 03/09/2012
Boy, that's something. If you never train people in abortions you never have abortions? How ignorant. Proving once again that those who do not remember/know history are doomed to repeat it.
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05:02 PM on 03/08/2012
Kansas, home of the Westboro Baptist Church, what more needs to be said.
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bobncar
for the good of all, not just the chosen few
11:34 AM on 03/06/2012
Any self respecting woman will move out of Kansas. Make it an all male state. Then they won't need any doctors that practice medicine for women, or have to pass laws pertaining to restrictions on women. problem solved
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ninzilla
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11:18 AM on 03/06/2012
At this rate, I won't be surprised if they declare us unclean and force us to spend one week of every month in a grass hut away from the rest of the populace.
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Chris7781
11:02 AM on 03/06/2012
"prohibits state employees from performing abortions during their workday" You must perform then on your lunch break ... in a back alley.

WTF?! Seriously?! Can someone please remind these clowns that abortion is legal?!
04:35 PM on 03/08/2012
And is sometimes medically necessary. I had 3 miscarriages during my child-bearing years that all had to be resolved with what was called D&C. It is the exact same procedure performed for abortions. Under Kansas state law I was to just go about my business with 3 deceased fetuses in my womb. Not to mention the life threatening infection this could have caused ……..would have crowded things a bit for my sons. So when a woman shows up at the ER having a miscarriage, I guess they will just send her away and say sorry….oh yea I forgot, they won’t be an accredited hospital anyway…
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toomchtodu
05:30 PM on 03/08/2012
Then they'll expect you to pay the state their fair share in taxes.

This madness will not stop until these zealots are ousted from office.
10:55 AM on 03/06/2012
Kansas...where all the idiots live...
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kathy smelser
10:50 AM on 03/06/2012
next they will get rid of the OBGYN classes .....and after that they will go after cancer treatment centers and when they are done with that they will close hospice centers ...all in a days work .....all of this is being done to promote pray it away health care
10:38 AM on 03/06/2012
I would suggest that anybody who is in favor of this law take a look at this site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anencephaly

and ask yourself whether it 'okay' for a doctor to legally withhold the information that a fetus is anencephalic? There you are pregnant - you have an ultrasound done - 'Here's your baby", the doctor says, pointing to the fetus. "There is it's arm wiggling, and listen - that's her heartbeat", the doctor says. The future mom and dad smile - so filled with joy. They go and buy that new house they have been looking at - the one with a perfect room for a nursery. They tell their friends and family about the baby they will soon be bringing home and gifts for that future child begin arriving. Little pink caps and soft blankets. The mother goes through all the normal stresses of pregnancy. She misses work, and throws up, her hormones are all out of whack, but she is happy - so happy. Then one day, her water breaks - the dad drives ever so carefully to the hospital. The labor is tough, it will have lasting consequences on the mothers health, she has to have an episiotomy - but all that is okay. And then the baby is born - no brain, no chance of living, no consciousness, maybe in great pain if it has a brain stem.
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kathy smelser
10:53 AM on 03/06/2012
very sad but true if they get their way ....and the worst part is that it is just the start
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toomchtodu
05:37 PM on 03/08/2012
Exactly! They are on such a mission it makes no difference. They have NO compassion for humanity, regardless of what they say. They are out to deny women the right to make educated medical decisions that don't coincide with THEIR beliefs.
Actually, these zealots are no different than Fred Phelps and his Westboro followers.

Never have I heard
10:36 AM on 03/06/2012
So let's stop the doctors from learning how to do the procdures, let's take away women's ability to think for them selves by making what is already a traumatic decision a nightmare and continue to pretend in this day and age of the internet this is about providing more information to women.

You go GOP.

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11:07 AM on 03/06/2012
I absolutely despise Republicans.
09:31 AM on 03/06/2012
I just can't imagine raising daughters in the U.S. knowing what they will have to go through for the rest of their lives. Any person with any concern for their wives, daughters and/or granddaughters will certainly have to consider moving out of the country. The assault of religion on women will never end and even if defeated this year it will only be a matter of time until these crazies get their way country wide.
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bobncar
for the good of all, not just the chosen few
11:37 AM on 03/06/2012
Not in California. WE get the brunt of a lot of nasty remarks about how liberal we are, but we don't restrict rights, and the climate is perfect.
12:08 PM on 03/06/2012
Are you kidding. Your state just passed Prop 8 a few years ago.
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09:13 AM on 03/06/2012
Now I understand why God sends tornadoes to Kansas, too bad these people don't all live on the same block.
08:53 AM on 03/06/2012
Absolutely NO ONE should be able to tell a woman what to do with her own body. Yes, I understand about the father's point of view, because you have to look at that as well. But, when it comes right down to it, whose body is it? I feel that anything after 2 or 3 months is ok to be illegal, but not before. Can no political figure find a COMPROMISE??? That's how things get done. But I am SO disappointed in politicians even THINKING it's ok to keep important information about a woman's health secret from HER to avoid an abortion. And... BTW... I have researched this and abortions do NOT cause Cancer! This has been proven over and over in studies just as they did studies about miscarriages and Cancer. Also, how self-preserving to make sure they cannot be liable for not disclosing health issues. This is diabolical, immoral, sickening, and egotistical to do that to women. Why are women suddenly being treated as less than equals now? That's basically it. I thought we were past having to fight for women's rights. After all, didn't we ALREADY do that? Why are we going back in time? I hope and pray that all women have the right to choose. It would be a smart thing though for both men and women to pay full attention to BIRTH CONTROL! But it's not 100% effective so........
10:45 AM on 03/06/2012
"I feel that anything after 2 or 3 months is ok to be illegal, but not before."
Really? So if a woman is going to die or the baby is going to die before being born, it should be alright for legislators to decide that the woman must go through with the pregnancy?
Take a look at this site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anencephaly
Should a doctor be able to withhold the information that her fetus is anencephalatic if an ultrasound is done at 5 months? Should the woman be forced to have the child even if we know that doesn't have a brain, and isn't going to live, and that labor is more dangerous to a woman's health than an abortion is?
11:47 AM on 03/06/2012
I totally agree that if there is an issue over that time frame, then OF COURSE it would be ok. I'd be stupid if I thought it was ok to put a mother or child in a dangerous situation. I would be totally uncaring. I was just saying a situation for possible compromise. I know that a lot of places will not do an abortion past the 1st trimester UNLESS there is a problem, which I can agree with. I am pro-choice and just acknowledging what I already know.
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09:21 PM on 05/18/2012
If it is "Your Body", how come that part can have a different blood type? Also women that have had abortions are at a 40% greater risk for breast cancer. It can not be explained. Google it.
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08:48 AM on 03/06/2012
republicans in the legislator is like a herd of bulls in a china shop. (dear rush, THAT is a metaphor.)
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Madtek
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08:37 AM on 03/06/2012
Somewhere in Kansas there is a teenage girl named Dorothy waiting and hoping for that tornado to come and get her the hell out of there!!
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kathy smelser
10:55 AM on 03/06/2012
and her little dog TOTO