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Muslims Rally In Support Of NYPD Mosque Surveillance Program

Posted: 03/ 5/2012 5:28 pm Updated: 03/ 5/2012 5:38 pm

NEW YORK -- As the imam at the Muhammadi Community Center, a mosque and Islamic center in Queens, Mohd Qayyoom has closely watched reports that the city's police department planted informants in dozens of mosques in New York City and its suburbs in recent years as part of a sweeping anti-terrorism effort.

Like many imams, he has wondered if his own mosque had informants, such as those who were revealed by an Associated Press investigation to be keeping tabs on sermon topics, Muslim-owned restaurants, Islamic university clubs and discussions on current events and politics across Muslim communities in the Northeast.

But unlike most Muslim leaders and civil liberties organizations that have spoken out strongly against the police department's efforts, which reports have said may have been based solely on religion, Qayyoom stood in front of the NYPD's downtown headquarters Monday to throw his support behind the police.

"A real Muslim has no problem with spying if it is to keep us safe," said Qayyoom, who leads about 100 people in prayer each week at the Queens mosque. "We have nothing to hide."

He joined a coalition of about two-dozen Muslims, most representing organizations outside New York, who gathered in the city to rally in support of the NYPD's surveillance program, which has resonated far beyond New York as civil rights groups and politicians across the country have taken sides with some calling for federal and state investigations of the department.

Standing in front of a large red, white and blue banner that read "American Muslims Support NYPD" with signs denouncing the Council on American Islamic-Relations and the New York Times editorial board, which have strongly opposed the surveillance program, members of the American Islamic Leadership Coalition took turns voicing their concerns.

Their takes were varied. Some said they were worried about police tactics, but wanted to mend relations with law enforcement. Others were concerned that many mosques had become homes for radicalization and said police needed to know what was going on inside. Most felt that the Islamic organizations speaking out for Muslims on the issue had left out their voices.

"We feel there has been one side of the position put out by the New York Times and the AP with these stories, but from a factual perspective they need some details. We can't be so quick to judge," said Zuhdi Jasser, a Phoenix-based doctor who organized the event. "If you welcome an atheist or anyone else to share your faith, why should you care if the government is in there gathering data and doing nothing different than what they do in neighborhoods where there are gangs or where drugs are being sold?"

Jasser is the founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy and describes himself as an orthodox Muslim. He made headlines earlier this year when reports surfaced that a film about radical Islam he narrated, "The Third Jihad," played on a continuous loop at an NYPD training room and was shown to 1,500 officers. The film argues that Western civilization is under attack by radical Muslims and by some moderates who the film says may be more radical than they lead people to believe. It uses violent images of terrorist attacks and testimony of Muslims and terrorism experts to make its case.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has said it was "terrible judgment" to show the film to police, but he has defended the NYPD's surveillance program. Manda Zand Ervin, the founder of the Maryland-based Alliance for Iranian Women, was interviewed in the film and also spoke on Monday in support of the police.

She was joined by her daughter, Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi, an Iranian Muslim activist and journalist from New York, who echoed a theme repeated by many of the attendees. "I don't want to take away anyone's rights," Zand-Bonzassi said, "but at times like these, righteous indignation for the sake of righteous indignation is a joke."

The Muslims at the rally, many of whom said they pray at home and do not attend mosques, and others who described themselves as secular Muslims, were joined by Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee. King has hosted a series of high-profile congressional hearings about radicalization in mosques and Muslim communities. Many Muslim organizations have criticized the hearings for singling out their religion and for having few Muslim witnesses besides Jasser.

At the rally, King praised the NYPD and called the demonstrators "the real face of Islam in America." He said that he refused to have his congressional committee investigate the police department because "there has been no evidence of wrongdoing."

But not everyone in the crowd was a fan.

Linda Sarsour, the executive director of the Arab American Association of New York and a vocal opponent of the NYPD's program, said she came to observe the other side.

"Sure, do surveillance, but don't do it to everyone," she said. "Base it on intelligence, but don't profile based upon religion."

Ayaz Ahmed, a health care worker who had walked over to the demonstration from his nearby office, said he fell "somewhere in the middle."

"I'm a Democrat, I don't even like Peter King," said Ahmed, who called himself a non-practicing Muslim but said he has been to many mosques in his life where he thought sermons weren't peaceful. "But I am glad somebody is watching over the mosques."

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U.S. Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y), right, chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, meets with supporters at a news conference in front of police headquarters in New York, Monday, March 5, 2012. King was present with dozens of activists to demonstrate support for the NYPD and their surveillance of Muslim communities. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)
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NEW YORK -- As the imam at the Muhammadi Community Center, a mosque and Islamic center in Queens, Mohd Qayyoom has closely watched reports that the city's police department planted informants in dozen...
NEW YORK -- As the imam at the Muhammadi Community Center, a mosque and Islamic center in Queens, Mohd Qayyoom has closely watched reports that the city's police department planted informants in dozen...
 
 
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OCCUPYHERALD
Live, Love, Laugh,share, grow.
06:34 PM on 03/17/2012
Sad are we Hear on earth for our lose of such a great man, Joyus are those in Heaven to receive such a great Liver of Life, Let us all share their Joy in heaven after 3 days of our Mourning! God is great, Love and joy, May his sucessor be as good as Him , in this third year! Amen
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
01:07 PM on 03/14/2012
Good!

This is what Muslims around the world need to do - speak out against, and turn over to authorities the bin Ladens of the world. It will go a long way.

The bin Ladens of the world are making life worse for muslims. It's in their own interests to see them put where they belong.
10:17 PM on 03/13/2012
Its interesting that a Muslim compares Muslims worshiping to

"nothing different than what they do in neighborhoods where there are gangs or where drugs are being sold?"

He is speaking in the abstract, and apparently doesn't understand the struggles the American Muslim community is facing.
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BilaalUSA
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم)
04:46 PM on 03/12/2012
An investigation based on a legitimate lead should be followed into any venue. But what my conservative brothers and sister miss is that we are being singled out soley on the bases of our religion ONLY. More importantly, my brothers and sister should see the deplorable training methods that the NYPD, FBI and others use to debase the religion and its followers as a whole.
12:09 PM on 03/10/2012
"Like many imams, he has wondered if his own mosque had informants"

I think its safe to assume that he was one of those informants
08:10 AM on 03/10/2012
Still waiting to see them protest the slaughter of Muslim in Syria or the endless bombing of Jews in Israel or the torching of churches and killing of Christians in Nigeria or the lack of rights for women's aNd gays in Palestine
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OCCUPYHERALD
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06:37 PM on 03/17/2012
Cancer of children , and the abuse of children on Penn state campus, where perople (even good intending folks) could rent children by the Hour , Without the Consent of their parrent!
05:59 PM on 03/09/2012
I have a healthy fear of radical religion myself, but I have to agree with the one who said to base the surveillance on intelligence, not on religious profiling.
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shunga munga
05:19 PM on 03/08/2012
Christ! Mr. McVeigh was a Catholic (and a registered Republican) but those aspects did not lead to widespread boarding up churches and rounding up GOP members (OK, maybe we should have). The 1993 World Trade Center bombing led to criminal arrests and convictions. Ironic that the self-proclaimed home of the brave now behaves like a frightened child surrendering every last vestige of personal freedom for a promise of safeness. "They (who?) hate us fro our freedoms" was the thin excuse. It fit on a t-shirt, was easy to remember and avoided messy issues of military bases in SA, oil routes throughout Asia and other policies prone to blow-back. The Patriot Act made sure there would be little freedom left intact to hate. Americans easily accept a religious-based hatred (ever wonder why) but turn a blind eye to their governments complicity in geo-political power plays, manipulation and subversive activity. We deal with the Iran of today because the US/CIA overthrew the democratically elected government in1953 so domestic oil could capitalize on Iranian oil production, and now we deal with those consequences. Israel defends ownership of the worlds most precious commodity in that region, water not god, and will never release that hold.
Fear and greed are terrible motivators, though both are at the core of all human behavior, leading to our current state of delusion and confusion of who to point our collective finger at.
06:13 AM on 03/09/2012
McVeigh went on record to state that his crime was in no way religiously motivated; his was purely a political agenda.
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shunga munga
07:54 AM on 03/09/2012
True. Same with Bin Laden, even when opposing the Russians in Afghanistan it was over geography, potential oil routes (the Chinese affected the final routing making Afghan moot) and political power. It's only about god to the guys on the ground burning Korans and the innocent caught in the proverbial crossfire. The Twin Tower attack was a policy event, and one that ultimately was successful since it did persuade the (Bush) administration to remove its military bases from SA. Ironically that announcement was made the same day as the now infamous "Mission Accomplished" statement, though the blunder (or was it planned) took the headlines. It's difficult to get folks to die for the riches of another...but a god...now that's worth dying for...and not just Muslims.
10:11 PM on 03/12/2012
McVeigh was a raised as Catholic, but became an atheist. Any statement from McVeigh suggesting he did it it in the name of Jesus Christ?
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shunga munga
10:28 PM on 03/12/2012
Yeah, an your point? All these attacks were to promote political agendas, and that 2001 was sold to the American public as a religious act merely demonstrates a gullibility and religious based fear. It should surprise no one that those who actually carried out the attacks may have been religious zealots, since it's always the kool-aid drinkers who do the dirty work. The now defunct think tank,The Project for a New American Century had been promoting a 'war' in Iraq since the very early 90's not to battle Islamic terrorism but to create an economic zone free of US law, taxation and oversight. 2001 provided the perfect storm. Religion the perfect motive.
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04:39 PM on 03/08/2012
"Ahmed, who called himself a non-practicing Muslim but said he has been to many mosques in his life where he thought sermons weren't peaceful."

- Does anyone care anymore or has PC totally blinded the west?
07:01 AM on 03/09/2012
Our motto: Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil about unmitigated evil.
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billhodges
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07:21 PM on 03/09/2012
Yes we are told you can not speak the truth about this religion yet we can and should speak ill of all other religions. The unbelievable position of the educated, and enlightened is just that. We will be consumed from within if we allow this mindset to take control of our country.
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O K Ali
Wash your hands, seriously.
03:07 AM on 03/08/2012
Here's a little known fact about the two groups that held this rally.
http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/03/zuhdi-jassers-astroturf-muslim-groups-behind-rally-to-support-nypd-spying/
AILC and AIFD are both founded by the same man, Jasser, with less than a dozen active members, some of them not even Muslim or American citizens.
http://americanislamicleadership.org/link2
Don't believe the hype.
AllegroTroppo
Appeaser feeds crocodile hopes to be eaten last
04:14 AM on 03/08/2012
Here's are some little known facts.
Pew International Poll 2010.

How much support for extremism among Muslims in U.S. ?
Foreign born Muslims--13%-15; U.S. African American Muslims-40%.

Suicide bombing/ other violence against civilians are sometimes justified to defend Islam from its enemies …
Foreign born Muslims 7%
African American Muslims-- 16%

View of Al Qaeda
African American Muslims--Favorable 11%

http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-6-terrorism-concerns-about-extremism-foreign-policy/
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04:31 PM on 03/08/2012
I guess some fear NYPD. Good.
AllegroTroppo
Appeaser feeds crocodile hopes to be eaten last
02:41 AM on 03/08/2012
Why surveillance must continue:
Typical path.
United States vs. Sabri Benkahka U.S.Court of Appeals

"Imam Ali Timimi at the Dar Al-Arqam Islamic Center in Falls Church. Virginia.Timimi regularly espoused the importance of engaging in violent jihad against the enemies of Islam."
Between 2000 and 2002, at least seven associates of Benkahla and Tiniimi at
Dar Al-Arqani (other than Benkahla) trained overseas with Lashkar-e-Taiba"
http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/case_docs/542.pdf
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Robert A Alba
09:57 PM on 03/07/2012
Where do you get the intelligence to base surveillance on if you don't profile? They ought to be profiling lunatic right wing christians and ultra orthodox jews as well as muslims. I hope more moderate muslims come out of the woodwork. It's about time.
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01:34 PM on 03/08/2012
We have. No one listens.
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Robert A Alba
03:36 PM on 03/08/2012
Then make them listen. Get louder.
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Robert A Alba
03:37 PM on 03/08/2012
Take a look at the tactics being used by atheists. They could work for you too.
08:12 AM on 03/10/2012
Still waiting for these 'moderate' Muslims to show their faces for oh about a thousand years now!
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bokhattak
Novelist, Muslim, Nerd.
04:46 PM on 03/07/2012
There is no religious indignation in demanding equal civil liberties and unbiased jurisprudence. Investigate actual crimes based on reasonable evidence and just cause. "They are Muslims" is neither of those. The NYPD has committed civil rights violations and must be investigated for them.
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08:53 PM on 03/08/2012
Different sorts of crime should be dealt with in different ways.

In his book "Willful Blindness", former Department of Justice terrorism prosecutor Andrew McCarthy details why dealing with terrorism through the usual criminal justice system is not a workable idea.

Appeals Court judge Richard A. Posner expands on this approach in his "Countering Terrorism", pp. 107-108:

"And when a terrorist plot is discovered, prosecution is not necessarily the best response… From an intelligence standpoint, arrest and prosecution should be postponed until the terrorist network has been fully traced and its methods, affiliates, financiers, suppliers, and camp followers identified."

Posner goes on to make the point that law enforcement is usually focused on capturing criminals after the crime. Intelligence operations are focused on preventing crime by manipulating the terrorist. He sums up with “we are overinvested in criminal law as a weapon against terrorism.”

If America merely catches terrorists after the attack, the terrorists win in the end.
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bokhattak
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11:19 AM on 03/09/2012
None of that revokes an individual right to Four Amendment protection from unreasonable search and seizure. Believe me, the same excuses were used back in the 60's to justify a lot of surveillance and illegal searches on black "radicals" like Doctor Martin Luther King, Jr.