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Cliff Stearns Stars In Today's Edition Of Birther-Pandering Theater

Posted: 03/12/2012 5:01 pm Updated: 03/12/2012 5:02 pm

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I know that back when President Barack Obama called a meeting of the White House Press Corps to dramatically reveal his long-form birth certificate, there were plenty of people who thought it was an excellent move that stuck it to the crazies and especially embarrassed Donald Trump, who went full-birther ahead of the 2012 campaign cycle back when he was a fake candidate for president. And evidently, the Obama administration was among those who thought the decision to release his documents in that fashion was a great idea, because they slapped the birth certificate on a mug and started raising money off of it.

But at the time, I sort of thought that all the White House was doing was giving up power to some lunatics by catering to their dementia, in exchange for not quelling the dementedness at all. Pungent gases denied space will nevertheless flow to the space that remains, and while the "snap polls" that were conducted after the big reveal indicated that "24 percent of Republicans say that doubts they previously had about where Obama was born have been erased," they also noted that birtherism was holding strong in spite of having been shown to be insane:

But there is also discouraging news: More than half of Republicans still aren't buying Obama's story. 18 percent of them told Survey USA that they consider the long-form a forgery, and another 33 percent say they still have doubt. Moreover, nearly 60 percent of Republicans say that they either still consider Obama's birthplace to be open to debate or aren't sure, and 33 percent claim that the president was "definitely" or "probably" born elsewhere. (Among all voters, 77 percent now say that Obama was "definitely" or "probably" born in America.)

So the White House stooped, but failed to conquer. And since then, the lunacy over Obama's birth certificate has continued -- to the point that Maricopa County, Ariz. Sheriff Joe Arpaio forsook his actual crime-fighting duties to stage a bizarre press conference on the matter -- and deepened: Sen. Marco Rubio is now being subjected to "birther" mouth-foaming, which has bitterly divided those birthers who are legitimately crazy and those who were just disingenuously making these risible claims out of opportunistic cynicism.

So is it really any surprise that Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) is back to endorsing birtherism? No, it is not. Per Scott Keyes:

When Stearns met with constituents on February 25 in Belleview, one of the first questions came from an elderly gentleman who insisted that Obama was not born in the United States and ought to be impeached. Rather than correcting the man and informing him that the president is indeed a natural-born American citizen, Stearns coddled the conspiracy theory by implying that Obama’s birth certificate may be a forgery — “is it legitimate?” Stearns wondered aloud.
STEARNS: All I can tell you is that the general consensus is that he has produced a birth certificate. The question is, is it legitimate? That’s where we stand now. I’ve seen a copy of it on television. But you know the Governor of Hawaii couldn’t get what he felt was an original of the birth certificate. He tried to do it and gave up on it. So I think what Obama’s showing is a facsimile, but I think that debate probably is not enough, shall we say, just to impeach him.

(Keyes points to Dave Weigel, debunking this weird claim about Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie.)

Now, why is Stearns' decision to play along with another person's delusions so unsurprising? Well, since he easily won re-election to the House in 2010, he ended up in a redrawn district. And while he'll retain many of the advantages he had in 2010 (at which time he coasted through the GOP primary and won against an independent candidate, grabbing 71 percent of the vote in each contest), he's ended up in a tough four-way primary in his new district. One of his opponents, James Jett, made news last week when he accused Stearns of trying to "buy him out of the race" with a bribe. Stearns has denied these allegations, but they've created a frenzy all the same.

So, what's Stearns to do? He can't afford to part with a single lunatic's vote until the primary has concluded. Thus, he's "raising the question."

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I know that back when President Barack Obama called a meeting of the White House Press Corps to dramatically reveal his long-form birth certificate, there were plenty of people who thought it was an e...
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Gaylord P Farqua 05:44 PM on 03/12/2012
With the economy slowly recovering from the near death blow rendered by Gomer, THE DICK and the GOP Congress through mismanagement, freeing up the banks and Wall Street to go nuts and starting two unfunded wars on top of big tax cuts for the rich, the TPGOP is desperate for reasons to attack the President. It doesn't matter their allegations are true, lies work very well with the ignorant and racist. So, we  Read More...
03:43 PM on 03/15/2012
Not casting aspersions here, but ole Stearnsy looks like a pedophile. I know you can't tell a book by its cover, but I wonder if he could prove he's not.
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03:21 PM on 03/15/2012
Why is HP letting everyone post today? Is it a holiday? did the moderators go home? Maybe they had to much fun at "happy hour" (i.e. drink as much as you can while its cheap to get extra stoned before your drive home). What gives HP? Are they getting ready to open up the fema camps and just fine tuning there lists this week?
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03:15 PM on 03/15/2012
Arizonaz working on a bill too, so this guy definately isnt alone in his beliefs! Maybe hes the type that likes to consider facts.
03:30 PM on 03/15/2012
Most likely, HE'S not !
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Proud Progressive
danger may be real, but fear is a choice.
03:56 PM on 03/15/2012
Sooooo you are saying that if more than on eperson belives that the earth is flat, there may be something to it???

PResident Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu Hawaii, on August 4, 1961, his birth certificate states this, as well as two newspapers published onn the day.
Hawaii has two major newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin.

BOTH newspapers include birth announcements, and BOTH newspapers record the August 4th, 1961 birth of Barack Obama.
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04:45 PM on 03/15/2012
I know what the newspapers used to say but I assure you that the earth is not flat. Get a grip dude.

His Birth certificate also says he was born at the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynelogical Hospital. But the problem with that is that it didnt exist by that name at the time! duh. I guess while you were spouting off you missed that and all of the other anomalies.
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
03:01 PM on 03/15/2012
poor cliff ..... another @$$wipe from down south catering to the uneducated ......
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Puzzlr
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02:00 PM on 03/15/2012
Jeebus! Why are we tip-toeing around the obvious? They don't believe, because they don't want to believe. And why don't they want to believe? Because the President of the United States is black. Sheesh.
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03:16 PM on 03/15/2012
Its got to be a bad thing since hes black and all. Couldnt have anything to do with the law and reality.
03:31 PM on 03/15/2012
Most likely, not !
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Proud Progressive
danger may be real, but fear is a choice.
04:07 PM on 03/15/2012
It could, but when there is overwhelming evidence, birth certificate and independent confirmation by way of two news papers, it gets a bit hard to see your point.
Reality???? You want reality? The reality is that in 1961, black people barely had the right to vote, and were subjected to intnse discrimination, REALITY???
If you are one of those idiots that believes that there was a conspiracy starting back at a time when people of color were segregated, with no end to the bigotry in sight. Then you really need to fashion yourself a foil hat and hide in your cellar until the voices stop speaking to you.
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murphthesurf3
Progressive: Like Ike and Clinton!
01:44 PM on 03/15/2012
I read 75 comments here. NOT ONE is in support of the birther business. A similar phenomenon happened with a Palin story. Hardly any Palinistas. What is going on? Has the right given up on this line except in their own little corners where they stand around trading mythology? Where are trolls?
02:06 PM on 03/15/2012
I think it a little unfair to paint the entire right as birthers and Palinistas, both of which are, and in my opinion always were, clear minorities.

I do note, however that Obama is still obsessed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeaM4t2Ycgk&feature=player_embedded

(Uploaded by BarackObamadotcom on Mar 9, 2012)

Since you seem to be speaking for the left, do you think Obama will be disappointed if running against Sarah Palin and using a birther argument make him appear as marginal as the birthers and Palinistas? At a minimum I think it shows he must campaign on the past and is headed for a larger irrelavency.
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murphthesurf3
Progressive: Like Ike and Clinton!
04:27 PM on 03/15/2012
I do not know if the "entire right" are birthers but the right as a whole is either birther, or willing to equivocate regarding the issue or silent. Silent denotes consent.

The clip re. Palin is a response to her appearance on Fox News as a paid commentator. It is an appropriate response.She is accusing him of an agenda that is meant to return the nation to a pre-Civil War (or did she mean Civil Rights) era. Pretty significant charge on "America's Most Trusted Name in News". Not the past at all. The present.
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murphthesurf3
Progressive: Like Ike and Clinton!
01:39 PM on 03/15/2012
Obama release the long form for the sake of those who believed him from the start.

He did not expect the dyed-in-the-wool birthers to accept it because the WH had said from the start that additional info just feeds the birther frenzy.

Once release those who support him could point to it and say: "See? I knew it." AND as a residual benefit some of those who were beginning to wonder if there just might be something to the conspiracy theory were dissuaded.

All that the stats about the GOP who buy into the birther nonsense tells me is that more and more who call themselves Republican are attached less and less to reality.
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03:17 PM on 03/15/2012
The problem is its not supposed to be in 7 parts! I looked at mine and my familys birth certificate just to confirm and all of ours are a single layer. Ours also doesnt have grammatical errors and lists the correct name for the hospitals in which we were born.
03:33 PM on 03/15/2012
Maybe your's isn't legit ?
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murphthesurf3
Progressive: Like Ike and Clinton!
03:40 PM on 03/15/2012
7 parts? What are you talking about?

You are buying into the multi-layer hypothesis?

You realize that this makes the top layers of the state government complicit in a fraud that goes back to Obama's birth?

Birth certificates often have errors. But in this case the hospital is correct. Do you really think that if there was a fraud there would be any errors of any kind. Do you really think that they would not make the certificate perfect? Do you really think if there was any shred of truth to this the GOP's main operatives would not be at work exposing it?

This is so foolish.
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Wrongway62
Good night Mrs Calabash wherever you are
12:40 PM on 03/15/2012
Get the original of any birth certificate in any state, not going to happen, you will get a copy of what they have on file, nothing more. By the birthers standards there is not one of us Born in Americans who can prove their birth certificate, so sorry folks you can't run for prez.
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
01:08 PM on 03/15/2012
Most presidents wouldn't qualify. First off, they want a long-form...which to my knowledge is only received if you're born in a hospital. Carter was the first president born in a hospital. Then we skip Reagan, who was not born in a hospital, and I think it's all presidents since then. Secondly, you're right. They wouldn't get the original. Thirdly, what is the obsession with a BC being a holy relic. I adopted both of my sons and at the time of finalization I was sent a form to fill out that allowed me to completely re-write their BC. Some states retain a copy of the old one. Some states, however, destroy the old one. So, these documents are not as immutable as they would seem to think. The other evidence (ie, notices in archived newspapers, etc.) is much harder to fake than a BC and much more convincing...even if someone had some suspicion that was based in reality.

The problem is that the suspicions of the holdouts are not based on reality at all. It's some sort of racist fantasy world...Dungeons & Dragons & KKKreatures.
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03:18 PM on 03/15/2012
A copy would be a document with a single layer, not 7. Documents with 7 layers are normally mocked up or created from scratch.
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Wrongway62
Good night Mrs Calabash wherever you are
05:25 PM on 03/15/2012
Where does this seven layer information come from? I'm always interested in know more about almost anything.
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dvncmdy
I'm being followed by a moon shadow
12:35 PM on 03/15/2012
Yes...people, he is American....and a fine looking one at that! (they're so jealous)
11:46 AM on 03/15/2012
In hindsight, does any of of it matter? If, upon inaugaration, Senator Obama had just said 'I, Barack Obama, do solemnly swear to uphold the Constitution............etc..............' and had not mentioned his middle name - Hussein - would we still be going on, and on, and on as to wheter he was born in the United States?

PS; John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, which was a US Territory at the time.
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03:19 PM on 03/15/2012
Had he not extended the Patriot act and signed the NDAA bill into law then many of us probably wouldnt have cared where he was born this time around.
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05:45 PM on 03/15/2012
Then it's not really his eligibility that concerns you, is it?
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escapee
Believing BS will not make it true.
11:13 AM on 03/15/2012
...and Obama sails into re-election!
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catbyte
Anishinaabe in MI
11:07 AM on 03/15/2012
Let it go, haters. You'll just have to get used to reality--there is a "Half-Kenyan, Mulotto, Muslim/Socialist/Communist Usurper whose Christian Minister Hates America" in the White House and, given the GOP's utter lack of a competent candidate, he will be there until January 2016, God willing.

Get used to it, LOL.
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cjus2473
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11:34 AM on 03/15/2012
one of the best responses f/f
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edgraham
There is no magic
12:45 PM on 03/14/2012
Can't you see that it is really hard for a lot of people to accept that a black man could be elected president?

That is the entire problem that has caused an avalanche of racist email lies. We haven't "come a long way baby."
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rickie007
i am in 2% but vote democrat
03:30 PM on 03/14/2012
that's the bottom line they absolute fact they so blinded with hate bigotry they can't beleive 70million people voted for our president and he is sleeping in the white house ,when they say the president of the united states its a blackman ,,they the haters can't slep at night,

this man our president works hard for all american's ,he is the jackie robinson of our time and does it with grace and style .(F&F) wow good luck to you
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Kyle10
those who sharpen perception tend to be antisocial
04:02 PM on 03/14/2012
We haven't "come a long way baby."

Yeah, we have actually. Interracial marriages are on a steep upswing, we've got a non-soda cracker in the highest office, Mexican-Americans are finding well-deserved political representation and clout. The list goes on, Ed. Truly, it does.

The press - as always - goes to the carnival barkers and the clowns. The rest of us chug merrily along, neighbor to neighbor and friend to friend.

Do not be mislead by the circus currently in town.
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edgraham
There is no magic
08:39 AM on 03/15/2012
I agree that things are much better than when I grew up, but the bigots have not changed. They are just dying off.
wiseapple
. just can not fail, if we never, ever stop
11:26 AM on 03/14/2012
It is frustrating to be stuck with a representative like Stearns. He can't be unseated because of the funds he has piled up over the years. He gets his earmarks, and people keep voting for him. Just another pandering ideologue.
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03:21 PM on 03/14/2012
Yeah and because prejudiced people in the great state of Florida are in his district and vote for that attitude.There, I've said it.It takes a prejudiced person to vote for such weasel saying what he says about the President's birth certificate.
That senior citizen that spoke up to Rep. Stearns was just mad that a black man had been elected our(and even worse,his) President in 2008.
Calling it like I see it and hear it in Florida.
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ArchStanton400
There are two kinds of spurs, my friend.
08:07 AM on 03/14/2012
It does not matter if Pres Obama was born in Kenya, Indonesia or Hawaii. What matters is his parents were both American Citizens at the time of his birth, which legally makes him an American Citizen as a result. What is it about this simple logic that these birthers cannot get thru their pea-sized brains? It's like my orange tabby cat who was one of a litter of four. His parents were a black and white tuxedo male and a grey striped tiger female. Where did the orange come from? I don't know, but he's still a cat. Meow! :)
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10:50 AM on 03/14/2012
Arch, both his parents weren't American citizens. That's not what matters.
wiseapple
. just can not fail, if we never, ever stop
11:20 AM on 03/14/2012
His mother was a US citizen, and that certainly does matter.
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TheMadDem
Truth-e-ness be told
12:58 PM on 03/14/2012
I'm sorry but where are you getting your "facts" his mother was a US citizen and his father was a legal resident. Why are we even having his conversation. The idiots on the right that question his birth place will ALWAYS question it even if they found video of him being born in an hospital even the the Doctor that was there actually remember him and his family but again why why why...

People in the country need to learn that in order to be President there is a process where this stuff is checked and it was done a long long time ago and was never in question. So stupid...