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Mont Vernon, N.H., Voting To Rename Jew Pond

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JIM MORRISON   03/13/12 11:38 PM ET  AP

MONT VERNON, N.H. — Residents of a rural New Hampshire town voted Tuesday night to rename a fishing and skating spot that's been called Jew Pond since the 1920s.

The 104-33 vote allows the board of selectmen to ask the U.S. Board of Geographic Names to officially change the Jew Pond moniker, which appears on a 1968 map but not on any town signs.

Residents debated the issue at a meeting Tuesday, with some urging that the name be changed and others saying it should be kept.

"I don't know if it was meant to be offensive or not, but if people are offended by the name I don't see why we shouldn't change it," said Bill Davidson, who has lived in Mont Vernon for 13 years.

But 34-year resident Lawrence Rondo and his wife, Annette, disagreed. "Changing it is stupid. People just like to stir up trouble," Rondo said. Added his wife, "People are too sensitive today."

Mont Vernon town health officer Rich Masters pushed for the vote after the name appeared in a news report about an algae bloom at the pond.

"I, frankly, find it to be inappropriate, disrespectful to some people," he said, "and I feel it needs to be changed."

But for many long-time residents, the effort is a lot of fuss over a small, manmade body of water that no one cares much about.

"It's much ado about very little," resident Tom McKinney said Tuesday.

Over the years, the pond, near the center of town, has been called by many names, including Carleton Pond. A nearby sign says Carleton Park Recreation Area, though that refers to the land rather than the pond itself. The pond originally was named Spring Pond, said Masters, because the owners of a hotel there created it by digging up a spring to irrigate their golf course. They made clear in a brochure that Jewish guests were not welcome.

The rest of the story is a bit murky, but it's generally believed that the body of water became Jew Pond when two Jewish businessmen from Boston bought the hotel. They intended to make the pond bigger and rename it Lake Serene, town officials say.

Mont Vernon Historical Society member Zoe Fimbel, who has lived in the town for 31 years, said there's nothing bigoted about the Jew Pond name. She said it was more about longtime residents in the 1920s being annoyed by out-of-towners trying to turn the pond into something it was not.

"It's too bad it's gotten to be such an issue when it's never even referred to or portrayed in a negative way," she said. "It's more like, `It's the Jew's Pond. The new man in town.'"

Still, resident Kevin Schmidlein thought the name should be changed. "If we're going to be known for something, I'd rather it be for something other than this," he said on Tuesday.

The town, about 35 miles southwest of the state capital, Concord, has Jewish residents, but census data don't indicate how many. The only synagogue Masters said he knew about is in Nashua, about 15 miles away. Proposed new names for the pond include Carleton Pond and the original Spring Pond.

No name was chosen on Tuesday. The board of selectmen expect to decide that sometime in the future.

Tuesday's vote was interrupted for about 30 minutes when a fire alarm went off at the school where the meeting was being held. There was no fire.

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virpilosus
...all things in moderation...
08:07 AM on 03/15/2012
This is the sort ofrelatively simple thing which, if deemed helpful or necessary by the local civic authorities, whould be for the local cizens of the town, village, or city, to decide by regular vote; done!
04:56 PM on 03/14/2012
Just change the name to Jewel. The Pen is mighter then the sword and the written word can hurt sometimes more then a physical attack. Saying the word Jew as a descripton is negative. Saying the word Jewish is not.
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TheMadDem
Truth-e-ness be told
11:33 AM on 03/14/2012
Are they changing it to N*ggerhead lake?? Oh wait that names already taken.. I'm pretty sure some Christian thought it was a great idea...

Ridicules... (Shakes head and sighs heavily)

Just sayin..,
01:13 AM on 03/14/2012
Much ado about nothing.
I lived in a rural area and bought our small farm from the "Smiths". Local people kept calling it by that name for the first 8 years we lived there. "Oh, you bought the Smiths place?" etc.
Also we only had two main paved roads, and all the rest were dirt roads with no street signs like a city would have. When we gave directions we'd say "go 2 miles past the Smiths place, then turn right and go through the Coopers farm until you get to a fork and then turn left past the feed store and go past Blacks pond. When you see a big old barn, you're there." The names given to places are not meant to slur any particular people. Calling it Jews pond because two jewish guys bought it is no big deal.
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SteveDenver
Progressive and liberal, just like Jesus Christ.
12:46 AM on 03/14/2012
Too bad "Jew" isn't an acceptable term in that town as the name of something beautiful and enjoyable
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Rickyrab
Bloustein School of Planning and Public Policy
12:42 AM on 03/14/2012
Why not call it Yiddish Pond or Israel Pond? Or, better yet, "Shalom".
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Ferrariqx
Who's NEXT?
12:30 AM on 03/14/2012
It doesn't matter what I think. I'm not Jewish. However, if Jewish people say it is offensive, that would be enough for me to say "absolutely change the name!"

NEXT!
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TheMadDem
Truth-e-ness be told
12:05 PM on 03/14/2012
Exactly, non-issue change the dang name!
garystartswithg
el sueno de la razon produce republicans
12:26 AM on 03/14/2012
Shylock Pond?
12:25 AM on 03/14/2012
After 92 years and is now offense. Maybe who ever were the settlers named it pride I bet they are turning in their graves. Apparently the people who are offended are the new people living in the area, I strongly suggested to live else where.
12:22 AM on 03/14/2012
if the pond is "no big deal" as the long time residence of the town have said, then why does it matter if the name is changed?
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Sam Curcuro
Tell It Like It Is
11:51 PM on 03/13/2012
Will the new name be Jew Lake? Give me a break, are we going to spend the next century doing away with anything that might be construed as offensive? The people that worry about this stuff are offensive.
glyngcgb
I Feel More Like I Do Now, Than I Did Before
11:27 PM on 03/13/2012
Gosh..., I'm glad other towns have more serious matters to discuss than my hometown...., our city council spent 3 months debating about whether or not 9 & 10 year olds should be allowed to eat food next to the city pool during swim meets..., fortunately, the season ended before a decision could be reached....,

Over the past 18 months, there has been an all-out, full fledged serious on-going debate over whether a lady should be allowed to have 6 hens in her backyard...., lord knows..., we can use the eggs...,
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TheMadDem
Truth-e-ness be told
12:13 PM on 03/14/2012
LMAO!!! Sounds like you've got some serious issues over there :) I wish we had those kinds of problem in AZ. Right now our Government is trying to push through a measure that is telling Doctors its OK to lie to their patients to try to prevent an abortion AND that they won't/can't be sued if they did. The Hens would be a welcomed problem
10:55 PM on 03/13/2012
Wow, how lucky for those people, all they have to concern themselves with is whether or not to rename a pond, that hasnt been a problem for 90 years lol
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GraphicMatt
Somebody make me a sandwich!
12:07 PM on 03/14/2012
I am sure the people there have plenty of other things to be concerned with. Just because youlack the ability to ponder multiple issues is not a reason to project your obvious shortcomings upon others.
01:41 PM on 03/14/2012
Well arent you just a bundle of pleasantries. I in no way insinuated that town had the inability to multitask. I can also assure you, that as a home schooling mother of 4, I do in fact "ponder multiple issues" at once lol :) I am sorry if you are having a bad day and therefore deem in necessary to twist something I said around. I hope you didnt post a condemnation on all the posts that deemed this story rediculious, and I hope your day gets better dear!
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GraphicMatt
Somebody make me a sandwich!
01:54 PM on 03/14/2012
No, you just insinuated that this is not worthy of any concern merely because you don't care. Did you read why they started calling it Jew Pond in the first place? You think it's ridiculous, good for you. That is your opinion, and I disagree.

Oh, and my day is just fine, and I am not your "dear".
02:35 PM on 03/14/2012
Yes, if I remember correctly they think some Jewish people named it Jew Pond. Not to mention, it has had other names in the past.

On another note, everyone has a right to an opinion and to give it respectfully on these blogs if they choose, hopefully you didnt find the time to insult everyone, that would be sad.
10:51 PM on 03/13/2012
BREAKING NEWS:
By a "secret" ballot vote of 104-33, voters elected to change the name of Jew Pond....
Interesting how usually things are done by a show of hands on voting but they "changed" it for this vote.
I call BullCrap....
01:31 AM on 03/14/2012
The law requires the moderator to hold a secret ballot if there are five or more written requests prior to the vote to do so. There were. It passed. I was in the room, and submitted my own vote. Clearly, you do not know what you are talking about.
10:48 PM on 03/13/2012
Behind many of these comments there appears to be a sentiment that it's much ado about nothing and that the use of the word "Jew" in this way can't be offensive. These commentators are wrong. The fact that so many people are taking the time to respond negatively indicates that they don't care why the name Jew Pond might be offensive to Jews or others. Many times when you combine an irrelevant word to the word "Jew" (i.e. jew-banker, jew-lawyer, jew-doctor, jew-town, or jew-controlled Hollywood, etc) it can take on a pejorative or biased quality. When some people use the word "Jew" in any way but a religious, cultural, or demographic context, there can be a suspicion that a very subtle and latent form of anti-semitism is at work. Why does this issue bring out so much negativity? An educated person understands that the history of the Jewish people is filled with bigotry, anti-semitism, discrimination, defamation, and disenfranchisement. Why does this issue rankle so many people? Why are they so negative to what is for some a sensitive issue? Indifference, insensitivity, or anti-semitism?
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SteveDenver
Progressive and liberal, just like Jesus Christ.
12:49 AM on 03/14/2012
jeezus